Problem at VB Pool - Tresspassers

[dvcmomdeh]

The man yelled down from the patio at her. I'll let my daughter run by herself again next summer. However, she may choose not to. Like I said before I have hopes that this was a lesson for all of us. My daughter would not have known to come back to the house, nor to talk to me about this had we not previously had discussions about strangers and being aware of your surroundings and the people in it. You have to WATCH people to be able to know who belongs where. In the early years of our Disney travel we used leashes on the kids. Not the harness kind that people use now but actual dog leashes color coded for boys (blue) and girls (purple). People gave us odd looks but my kids never ran more than 6 feet in front or behind me. Had I not taught them this I believe they would run everywhere. They both are responsible.

My suggestion would be to explain this scenario to your daughter and ask her what she would do. You may find that she too is responsible enough to come up with the same decisions my daughter made and you won't have to concern her for the trip.

We recently had an ADAM Alert come over our TV. My daughter new what this was for and I didn't tell her about it. So they learn stuff like this from somewhere else too.

 

[ducklite]

Think of all the ridiculous lawsuits that are brought and won by criminals. Sorry, regardless of what we would have liked to have seen happen, Disney did what they legally could do in the situation.

Anne

 

[jfulcer]

Originally posted by RJake1
I also disagree with the logic that Disney acted appropriately out of concern for being sued. So what? Let the pervert sue. How much money is a jury going to award a child pervert? Do you think he would be a sympathetic figure in front of a jury? I would try that case any day of the week. Child Pervert vs Disney. I couldn't ask for a more compelling set of circumstances. In addition, Disney would benefit tremendously from the positive publicity that they acted aggressively against a pervert (a non-guest mind you) and favored protecting a minor child over their own economic interests.

Ok, I may hate myself for this, as I'm playing the devil's advocate here (as was ducklite), but you do NOT know he was a pervert. He COULD have just been a bored old grandpa wanting a chat. Wrong way to ask, but still.... Disney can't arrest him on a whim I assume, they would need some legal ground and I'm not sure there is in this case.

Is he trouble? Yes, most certainly so. But if he's not, and he were a DIS member, HE could sue YOU for lible (or is it defamation of character) or some such. People bring suits for MUCH MUCH less these days.

 

[childsplay]

Originally posted by ducklite
Sorry, regardless of what we would have liked to have seen happen, Disney did what they legally could do in the situation.

Anne

Well, yes and no.....if the police had been called and simply asked the individual some questions that would have been perfectly legal and provided no grounds for a lawsuit.

 

[ducklite]

Originally posted by childsplay
Well, yes and no.....if the police had been called and simply asked the individual some questions that would have been perfectly legal and provided no grounds for a lawsuit.

RJake1 was suggesting that the individual be DETAINED until the police could arrive. That would have been the grounds for a lawsuit, as would have making any kind of accusations which could not be proven. Based on the story as it's been given here, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence on which serious allegations are being made.

Anne

 

[Sammie]

Some would consider the actions of the man in the bar perverted. However some would consider him just to have had one too many drinks and being obnoxious. I don't think there is a law against being obnoxious.

Some would consider putting dog leashes on children abusive, and others would see it as a way to keep them safe.

Unless a law was broken, Disney acted appropriately. The guest always has the right to call the police if they feel the need.

But mainly as the OP stated Disney is a public place and not everyone is nice.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

.....if the police had been called and simply asked the individual some questions that would have been perfectly legal and provided no grounds for a lawsuit.

The bartenders at the Green Cabin Room may have a bigger problem if they served him too many drinks and then encouraged him to drive home early. I agree, calling the police to manage the situation is not out of line.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

Oops, looks like we have two threads going on the same subject. This one was about pool crashers.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

Originally posted by jfulcer
Ok, I may hate myself for this, as I'm playing the devil's advocate here (as was ducklite), but you do NOT know he was a pervert. He COULD have just been a bored old grandpa wanting a chat. Wrong way to ask, but still.... Disney can't arrest him on a whim I assume, they would need some legal ground and I'm not sure there is in this case.

Is he trouble? Yes, most certainly so. But if he's not, and he were a DIS member, HE could sue YOU for lible (or is it defamation of character) or some such. People bring suits for MUCH MUCH less these days.

Naw.... he was being a public nusance. It may also have been wise to stop him before he got into a car. Just because someone sue's doesn't make them right or the case winnable. Besides, Disney has lawers on staff who could tie the case up in court for years and years.....

...I don't think there is a law against being obnoxious.

Gosh, if there was we might have some posters on our forum facing charges, eh?