preliminary unconfirmed pricing information for new bungalows

[clsteve]

So if they build more of these price exclusive locations, attached to good ole DVC, they will continue to feed the "points with no home" into the system, potentially bringing an end to any availability much past the 7 month window... making home resort booking almost a must. I don't know the numbers, but assuming 5 m points per resort, that's what-- 65 m total? Poly adds 1m with no home, add some tee pees at wl-- another 1m, maybe another 2m at discovery island, that brings us to 5% homeless points. If the majority of these are interested in low rents (studios), it may account for 15% of the available studios..." and that's not good".

Guarantee no empty rooms...

Gee...I don't want to be a pessimist...but that sure seems like intentional "collateral damage"

Ok guys, not being a DVCer, I could be seeing this all wrong so feel free to tell me so - (and point me to where to get educated).

But, could the whole bungalow thing be just a semi-brilliant, though underhanded Disney tactic to "flood" the points for sale market, while fully intending the majority of room nights to remain available to rent nightly to the upper-crust at $2100/night...?

A perfect double dip, on their part - what am I missing...?

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Ok guys, not being a DVCer, I could be seeing this all wrong so feel free to tell me so - (and point me to where to get educated).

But, could the whole bungalow thing be just a semi-brilliant, though underhanded Disney tactic to "flood" the points for sale market, while fully intending the majority of room nights to remain available to rent nightly to the upper-crust at $2100/night...?

A perfect double dip, on their part - what am I missing...?

I suppose it's possible...

It would be "money for nothing" up front and would keep these things open to sell to "one timers" for a cutthroat rate... Even with the trend of 30-35% rack discounts.

Much better chance of schlepping Long term to one timers. DVC always gets skeptical (gee...I wonder why?)

It would be a "low percentage chance of being correct" in my opinion...but not impossible

The one flaw (maybe) I see is people buying contracts for "a week in a bungalow". DVC strongly- at least in the past - had made a point not to sell that way...because they can't guarantee it and it takes away alot of the sales pitch.

When I bought... We looked at the exchange rate through interval (at the time) and added a little...which was much more open ended than "lets see...I NEED August 2-9 in an two bedroom at Saratoga!!!!"
Iike to think most do it more like me than a cheesy 80's style timeshare.

I think you won't get alot of "Christmas week in a bungalow" purchases...more like "I want 300 pts at walts poly"

Which is good and bad...good that most will balk at the redonkulous bungalow charge...bad that it adds more fish into a sea that's evaporating a bit
Over the last ten years.

 

[flashcal]

Well it's nice to see all the usual posters/haters who hate/haunt these boards. It's all just what I expected.

All I have to say is wake up people. No these bungalows aren't for you and yours. They are for the very rich. The money they will generate,which is enormous, will help to fund the many changes that we (who actually go and enjoy)will all benefit from that are taking place all over WDW. These park rennovations and expansions don't pay for themselves. The bungalows are a cash cow for Disney who very much needs it now.

You all have affordable places to stay on property that are lovely and plentiful. Stop complaining that the bungalows are out of your reach. They were clearly never intended to be for just anyone. They weren't intended for YOU. Or me. It's the way of the world everywhere. Not just at Disney World.

And as for the old familiar drum banging about never going to WDW again. I wish and Fare thee well. If only it were true......Which it isn't. But if only - more room for me.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Ahhh, yes...our first condescending corporate apologist has arrived at the red carpet...

Good morning, Mr, Iger

 

[Planogirl]

Ahhh, yes...our first condescending corporate apologist has arrived at the red carpet...

Good morning, Mr, Iger

I wouldn't take the bait personally.

I mostly lurk nowadays but was enjoying the conversation. It'll be interesting to see what develops beyond this.

 

[clsteve]

I suppose it's possible...

It would be "money for nothing" up front and would keep these things open to sell to "one timers" for a cutthroat rate... Even with the trend of 30-35% rack discounts.

Much better chance of schlepping Long term to one timers. DVC always gets skeptical (gee...I wonder why?)

It would be a "low percentage chance of being correct" in my opinion...but not impossible

The one flaw (maybe) I see is people buying contracts for "a week in a bungalow". DVC strongly- at least in the past - had made a point not to sell that way...because they can't guarantee it and it takes away alot of the sales pitch.

When I bought... We looked at the exchange rate through interval (at the time) and added a little...which was much more open ended than "lets see...I NEED August 2-9 in an two bedroom at Saratoga!!!!"
Iike to think most do it more like me than a cheesy 80's style timeshare.

I think you won't get alot of "Christmas week in a bungalow" purchases...more like "I want 300 pts at walts poly"

Which is good and bad...good that most will balk at the redonkulous bungalow charge...bad that it adds more fish into a sea that's evaporating a bit
Over the last ten years.

I see your point.

But won't be interesting if the bungalows are always occupied, night after night from the beginning...

Guess I should ask The PR Team now that they've chimed in on the thread.....

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I wouldn't take the bait personally.

I mostly lurk nowadays but was enjoying the conversation. It'll be interesting to see what develops beyond this.

Well you know... For us "haters"...it's all about ruining the magic day to day...

It's never about the new or progressing shifts In priorities or business arcs that point to things that could "eliminate the magic" for us, our kids, grandkids, neighbors kids, postman's kids, etc.

It's just a sheer "love of hate". That's what I live for...

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I see your point.

But won't be interesting if the bungalows are always occupied, night after night from the beginning...

Guess I should ask The PR Team now that they've chimed in on the thread.....

I think it's very likely they will be booked solid for the honeymoon phase... Even if alot are those that have racked up 500+ to the thousands in DVC points over the years on multiple contract ( the hard core DVC)...and are there for the novelty

That will last... But will it sustain. The only comparable are treehouses...but they're cheaper and bigger. Big downgrade on location - obviously. Those stay pretty booked.

There always seem to be honeymoon bookings. You couldn't sniff grand Floridian for the first year...now I'm see some rooms available well within the 7 months at pretty good times.

 

[flashcal]

Well you know... For us "haters"...it's all about ruining the magic day to day...

It's never about the new or progressing shifts In priorities or business arcs that point to things that could "eliminate the magic" for us, our kids, grandkids, neighbors kids, postman's kids, etc.

It's just a sheer "love of hate". That's what I live for...

If Disney has eliminated the magic and you dislike the company and WDW itself why do you waste so much precious time here.?
Normally I would say find something you do love and utilize your precious time doing that. I'll never understand what satisfaction you all get from continuously coming here to bash Disney if you don't like it, agree, don't want to come again. It makes no sense unless the pleasure is in the bashing. That makes sense.

Love and kisses,
Bob Iger

 

[Reddog1134]

What's the prediction for availability of the studios?

Will the large amount of points being generated by the bungalows, but not used to rent them cause an extreme availability problem?

 

[Suger Mag]

I see your point.

But won't be interesting if the bungalows are always occupied, night after night from the beginning...

Guess I should ask The PR Team now that they've chimed in on the thread.....

I think it's very likely they will be booked solid for the honeymoon phase... Even if alot are those that have racked up 500+ to the thousands in DVC points over the years on multiple contract ( the hard core DVC)...and are there for the novelty

That will last... But will it sustain. The only comparable are treehouses...but they're cheaper and bigger. Big downgrade on location - obviously. Those stay pretty booked.

There always seem to be honeymoon bookings. You couldn't sniff grand Floridian for the first year...now I'm see some rooms available well within the 7 months at pretty good times.

I think you will see spotty availibility rather than solid.A lot of the 'novelty seekers' like myself will only want (or be able to) to do a bungalow for a few days. Get the thrill, with the least amount of pain so to speak. So more split stays rather than full weeks is my prediction.

 

[Reddog1134]

If Disney has eliminated the magic and you dislike the company and WDW itself why do you waste so much precious time here.?
Normally I would say find something you do love and utilize your precious time doing that. I'll never understand what satisfaction you all get from continuously coming here to bash Disney if you don't like it, agree, don't want to come again. It makes no sense unless the pleasure is in the bashing. That makes sense.

Love and kisses,
Bob Iger

Most posters who post "negative" things don't exclusively post negative things. In most cases, their position seems to be "I love Disney, but here are the things I don't love about it." Some are trolls, but others just want to generate discussion about how Disney can improve.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

If Disney has eliminated the magic and you dislike the company and WDW itself why do you waste so much precious time here.?
Normally I would say find something you do love and utilize your precious time doing that. I'll never understand what satisfaction you all get from continuously coming here to bash Disney if you don't like it, agree, don't want to come again. It makes no sense unless the pleasure is in the bashing. That makes sense.

Love and kisses,
Bob Iger

I love it... But it's changing and I hope people will stand their ground on somethings.

But then again... There's nothing "common" about common sense.

If you think Disney would be better off without me...you're wrong. I do love it and want to protect it from itself. And consumer power is key there.

No offense... I'm getting an apologist/CM/ local vibe from you.

And I love good debate... So I welcome your insights. Just not "why you so negative"

It's seeded in concern, not mischief.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Most posters who post "negative" things don't exclusively post negative things. In most cases, their position seems to be "I love Disney, but here are the things I don't love about it." Some are trolls, but others just want to generate discussion about how Disney can improve.

Stop being LOGICAL!!!!

 

[lockedoutlogic]

What's the prediction for availability of the studios?

Will the large amount of points being generated by the bungalows, but not used to rent them cause an extreme availability problem?

The studios you won't be able to sniff for a LONG time...my prediction.

The poly has the single biggest pull from a Disney sentimentality standpoint. "Walts hotel"...much more than contemporary.

First, I think the point will sell at a record...my guess is tens of thousands within a month....and the studios will be heavily watched/ wait listed as they come on line. And alot of cannibalization from bay lake tower as well. Maybe even frustrated GF owners with lots of points.

Though...360 is alot of studios... Especially when eliminating the segments that like the kitchens and laundry, extra baths, etc.

We'll see. I'm guessing packed for awhile.

 

[nkosiek]

What's the prediction for availability of the studios?

Will the large amount of points being generated by the bungalows, but not used to rent them cause an extreme availability problem?

I think it will depend on the when you're talking about. VGF had decent availability those first few months when non-owners got to book. Not great, but decent. As more and more owners came online the 7-month availability lessened, especially at high DVC-times from Oct-December. I think that may be true for the Poly as well. I think you'll find spotty days here and there but I don't know about full weeks. Depending upon how they do early non-owner bookings, I may try to book 1 night at the end of July in a studio there but no more than that. Cost is more than my standard BLT and I'm a point miser.

 

[wallrock]

Well you know... For us "haters"...it's all about ruining the magic day to day...

It's never about the new or progressing shifts In priorities or business arcs that point to things that could "eliminate the magic" for us, our kids, grandkids, neighbors kids, postman's kids, etc.

It's just a sheer "love of hate". That's what I live for...

You forgot about the part where we want the park to fall off into the ocean and disappear forever because, you know, if we vow to never return we want to make sure no one else does either...

 

[lockedoutlogic]

You forgot about the part where we want the park to fall off into the ocean and disappear forever because, you know, if we vow to never return we want to make sure no one else does either...

Right

BURN IT DOWN!!! ...I always say

 

[Planogirl]

Why is it that people see someone criticizing WDW and think that that gives them a license to criticize actual individuals? Why not offer counterpoints instead?

This is really most of the reason I've pretty much quit posting. Not all of the reason of course but it gets tiring.

Back to the topic, I wonder if that many people would have enough points to spend a week in these? I still see this in terms of dollars (and that's terrifying) but points could be another matter. I think that I would have to have a better fountain in the lobby first though.

 

[Tomader]

Who would spend that much money for a room in Disney??? I would go to Hawaii for what they are charging. In my opinion they have ruined the Polynesian. If they want to add more to Disney build the parks up at a faster pace. I'm taking a break for the first time this year. Nothing new to draw me in. Same rides and fewer of them.