'Pregnant' man stuns medical profession

[NYBlue1]

well what about the "rights" of the doctors and their office staff? are they not entitled to lead their lifestyle as well? maybe they are devout Christians and treating this person is against their belief system? This is one side of the story published in a magazine with the agenda of advancing the GLBT cause...to insinuate it is above reproach in terms of someone critcizing the motives of this pregnant couple and needing more information about the other side of the story to form a complete opinion under the premise that there is *some* discrimination against GLBT doesn't hold water with me. If we are going to respect everyone's lifestyle choices, then we need to respect everyone's lifestyle choices including those of some doctors who aren't willing to work with a patient in an unorthodox and potentially dangerous situation.

You cannot use the "intersex" example because its a biological "mistake" when that happens and then to hold it up as some sort of proof that there aren't clear sexes aka male and female doesn't work. When you are born with female parts and female chromosomes and are giving birth to a child, you are a female.

Im pretty sure as a medical professional that bias is not something that can come into the picture, I would imagine some sort lawsuit could be involved if it were, when you decide to become a doctor you are about healing and treating people, not just the people your religion dictates. The comments made to this man were not necessary.

If the doc did not want to deal with the case because of the factors of hormones involved, high risk than he could have said that and left it at that.

 

[StrollPatrolMom]

Im pretty sure as a medical professional that bias is not something that can come into the picture, I would imagine some sort lawsuit could be involved if it were, when you decide to become a doctor you are about healing and treating people, not just the people your religion dictates. The comments made to this man were not necessary.

If the doc did not want to deal with the case because of the factors of hormones involved, high risk than he could have said that and left it at that.

I think doctors are free to treat whom they want to in a private practice situation. I believe the precident has been set doctors do not have to perform procedures they find morally objectionable. (I could be wrong, but I don't think so...maybe someone else can weigh in...)

 

[happygirl]

You can flame me all day for this but, I feel so bad for this child, this child is going to be teased rentless for the choices that his/her parents have made

 

[NewJersey]

While unconventional, it is his right to do with his body as he wishes. It's a shame that some people can't put their own issues aside.

Agreed.

 

[crz4mm2]

I think doctors are free to treat whom they want to in a private practice situation. I believe the precident has been set doctors do not have to perform procedures they find morally objectionable. (I could be wrong, but I don't think so...maybe someone else can weigh in...)

Care providers do NOT have to perform procedures (such as abortion) that they find morally objectionable. You are totally correct.

 

[PghLybrt]

I think doctors are free to treat whom they want to in a private practice situation. I believe the precident has been set doctors do not have to perform procedures they find morally objectionable. (I could be wrong, but I don't think so...maybe someone else can weigh in...)

It was not a private practice. The DR in question went to his hospitals ethics board and then continued to treat him for many months. Months later (and a lot of $$$$) The DR. said he would no longer treat him because "he and his staff felt uncomfortable" working with someone like him. The DR did not say that he felt it violated any of his religious beliefs, just simply he felt icky.

 

[JennyMominRI]

It was not a private practice. The DR in question went to his hospitals ethics board and then continued to treat him for many months. Months later (and a lot of $$$$) The DR. said he would no longer treat him because "he and his staff felt uncomfortable" working with someone like him. The DR did not say that he felt it violated any of his religious beliefs, just simply he felt icky.

I'm glad doctors aren't able to just toss me aside as a patient because they don't like the fact that I have AIDS. I'm glad too that they didn't decide to toss me aside for having an unconventional pregnancy, being HIV positive and having a child
This whole thread makes me sad. Is it that hard just to be nice to people who aren't doing anything that harms someone else?

 

[TinkerbellMama]

Hmm, I guess I should monitor this thread since it should tell me the kinds of attitudes GF and I have to look forward to when we have kids in a few years.

We are both women--neither of us is changing our body in any way. But since GF wears a lot of men's clothes and likes to keep her hair short people often mistake her for a guy when they don't look closely enough to notice that she has breasts. I'm not feminine at all either, but I have a much bigger chest and I usually keep my hair at least to my shoulders, so people never misread my gender.

GF is the one who will be bearing the children and we have already gotten many surprised looks when we've told people about that--they seem to assume that I'm the one who's going to bear the child just because I look a little more feminine . I guess people assume that somehow long hair and wearing female clothing is a requirement for having a baby? I don't understand this at all. A uterus is a uterus. GF likes short hair and men's clothes AND she very much wants to experience pregnancy and breast feeding. I like longer hair and men's clothes don't fit me and I show more cleavage, AND I have absolutely no interest in using my uterus or breasts for reproductive purposes.

Maybe when we go to OB/GYN appointments we should dress GF all in pink so that they don't refuse to treat her .

I, for one, fully support your right to procreate in whatever manner you choose, so long as no one gets hurt. And that doesn't include the feelings and "sensibilities" of bigots.

 

[TinkerbellMama]

Why not seek out GLBT friendly doctors? That would have been my number ONE priority

Silly me...if I were GLBT, and pregnant, my first concern would be for the health of my child. Just like everybody else; imagine that!! And what makes you think there are soooooooo many of those GLBT-friendly OBs floating around? And should people really have to say, "Non-bigoted, please," when requesting a medical professional???

 

[StrollPatrolMom]

I, for one, fully support your right to procreate in whatever manner you choose, so long as no one gets hurt. And that doesn't include the feelings and "sensibilities" of bigots.

I didn't say anything about "feelings" we have the free exercise of religion in this country...here's a quote from the article

""Doctors have discriminated against us, turning us away due to their religious beliefs. "

how is the free exercise of your religion discrimination?

as I said before, we have to respect EVERYONE's lifestyle, even the ones we do not agree with (in this case religious people)

 

[wvrevy]

I, for one, fully support your right to procreate in whatever manner you choose, so long as no one gets hurt. And that doesn't include the feelings and "sensibilities" of bigots.

Very well said, and I couldn't agree more!

 

[crz4mm2]

I really don't care what anyone does. Who you choose to be with, who you choose to marry, who you choose to have kids with, HOW you choose to have kids.
All I am saying is a MALE is not capable of having a uterus. That's all.

HE is not pregnant. SHE is.

I wish them great success with the pregnancy, delivery and the little life they have created. I hope they have a wonderful birth and life. I hope the child brings them great joy (and they bring the child the same).

It doesn't matter if you have one Dad, One Mom, Two Dads, Two Moms, As long as your family is loving and supportive. THAT is what really matters.

 

[TinkerbellMama]

I didn't say anything about "feelings" we have the free exercise of religion in this country...here's a quote from the article

""Doctors have discriminated against us, turning us away due to their religious beliefs. "

how is the free exercise of your religion discrimination?

as I said before, we have to respect EVERYONE's lifestyle, even the ones we do not agree with (in this case religious people)

I don't understand your response, and therefore cannot reply. Sorry.

 

[raysnkaysmom]

I really don't care what anyone does. Who you choose to be with, who you choose to marry, who you choose to have kids with, HOW you choose to have kids.
All I am saying is a MALE is not capable of having a uterus. That's all.

HE is not pregnant. SHE is.

I wish them great success with the pregnancy, delivery and the little life they have created. I hope they have a wonderful birth and life. I hope the child brings them great joy (and they bring the child the same).

It doesn't matter if you have one Dad, One Mom, Two Dads, Two Moms, As long as your family is loving and supportive. THAT is what really matters.

 

[Nikel]

All I can think that this Baby Shower is gonna be a DOOZEY!

I'm not really sure why it would be any different than any other baby shower. Is this baby not going to need the same things as any baby from "normal" parents?

 

[PghLybrt]

I don't understand your response, and therefore cannot reply. Sorry.

I think what was trying to be presented was the idea that doctors can refuse treatment if it goes against their religious beliefs. However what was left out was much of the article about how many doctors refused and what one of the said. None of it had anything to do with religion.

 

[PghLybrt]

I really hope some of you have no family or friends that are transgendered because some of you are so disrespectful and downright rude.

 

[Nikel]

I didn't say anything about "feelings" we have the free exercise of religion in this country...here's a quote from the article

""Doctors have discriminated against us, turning us away due to their religious beliefs. "

how is the free exercise of your religion discrimination?

as I said before, we have to respect EVERYONE's lifestyle, even the ones we do not agree with (in this case religious people)

The problem comes when a human can't find a Dr to provide care. I'm not sure what the answer is because I don't want people forced to do things against their beliefs, but I find the thought of people being refused medical treatment abhorrent.

 

[Scuttle]

Silly me...if I were GLBT, and pregnant, my first concern would be for the health of my child. Just like everybody else; imagine that!! And what makes you think there are soooooooo many of those GLBT-friendly OBs floating around? And should people really have to say, "Non-bigoted, please," when requesting a medical professional???

Well if you were GLBT you would know that finding a OB or doc even that is friendly to GLBT persons is very important. There are many awesome doctors and hospitals that are , just takes a little research.

My partner had triplets and we investigated reproductive specialist, OBs as well as perinatoligists that were gay friendly and a NICU/Hospital that was as well.

During such a joyous event , why be stuck with doctors and staff that would make you feel like a second class citizen?

The first question I ask any doc im going to is , are you comfortable treating GLBT patients, you can tell by the answer and how the staff treats you the truth. Has not failed me yet. Im not sure why this is so funny to you

 

[TinkerbellMama]

I think what was trying to be presented was the idea that doctors can refuse treatment if it goes against their religious beliefs. However what was left out was much of the article about how many doctors refused and what one of the said. None of it had anything to do with religion.

Hmmm, well, I don't really see how that applies to what I said previously, but thank you for trying to clear that up for me.

And I agree with you that some of the comments on this thread are disgustingly rude and insensitive.