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What I really want to know is where are the teachers storing all those supplies? None of our rooms have closets, the only rooms with any type of storage are in the kindergarten and preschool areas. Are they stacking the stuff behind their desk or taking it home until they need it?

I have cabinets at school so the supplies are stored there. I also have "backtsock" :rotfl:at home. In fact, in January our home was burglarized. The officer walking through the home with us saw the school supply closet and said, "WHAT is THAT?"

I told him that I teach in a very poor district so I stock up to help out my kids. :)
 
The colored pencils are probably for coloring in maps. Teachers often have kids grade each other's quizzes right there in class (or that's what we did) so I'm assuming red would go for that. Glue sticks, I have no idea. Unless they are scrapbooking. Now that I think about it, it would be awesome to make a bunch of 12 year olds organize my photos. :rotfl:

Probably for their ISN - Interactive Student Notebook. They glue in notes sheets from the teacher and use color to write their own understanding. Brain based research shows that color is helpful in retaining information.
 
LOL I think we teach in the same district! Actually our free/reduced lunch is probably closer to 95%+. I don't ask for anything because I know I'm not going to get it. The last time I tried, I asked for a pencil box. Didn't care what color, brand, or size. Just a pencil box to keep their stuff in. I still ended up buying half the class, but I did have 2 grandma's send in extra since they knew the kids wouldn't buy it. Usually I hit the Walmart sales, this year I refuse to. The boys I had last year broke every crayon in the room so they could throw them at the trash cans. I swore I'd never buy anything again after that. What I really want to know is where are the teachers storing all those supplies? None of our rooms have closets, the only rooms with any type of storage are in the kindergarten and preschool areas. Are they stacking the stuff behind their desk or taking it home until they need it?

Instead of pencil boxes, use gallon size zip baggies. They are much cheaper and can be replaced as needed. I've had some last a semester or longer, some not so much. As for the boys breaking the crayons, I'd fish them out of the trash and make them use only the broken ones. Natural consequences. Kids will be more careful with your things if they are excluded from using the "good stuff" when they mistreat it. I have a cabinet in my basement I dedicate to school supplies. No storage at school is really hard.
 
Millions? Seriously? I highly doubt that. Where I live, the athletic boosters raised the money for the artificial turf and track. I know for a fact that it did not cost "millions".

I just wanted to chime in on this. Our football stadium was in desperate need of an update that was going to cost $1.5 million to do. Or our other option was to build a brand new stadium behind the high school (current one is across town) and also upgrade the current Art/Music/Technology wing and it is going to cost $12 million.

If we did the upgrades to the current stadium it was 100% at the cost of the school budget/tax payers, but to build an entirely new stadium NYS will reimburse 90% of the amount leaving the school district/tax payers responsible for only $549,359.
 

Last year, when my son was going in to 6th grade, he needed:
1 2 inch binder
8 colored folders - one for each class
1 pack of lined paper

So, we spent time getting his binder and folders ready, filling them with the paper.

The last day of school, my son brought home the folder in near mint condition.
Only 1 folder out of 8 needed to be replaced, and he only used about 10 pieces of paper.

He will be using the same exact binder/folder/paper again this year. We just have to spend $.25 for a replacement folder.
 
A parent of a child with celiac disease pointed out to me that Rose Art crayons are wheat based and her child could not even handle them. We also requested Crayola because of their true colors and durability.

pinnie

I was going to make the same comment. Increasing numbers of classrooms need their supplies to be gluten-free due to food allergies. This is particularlyl important in the younger grades when kids are very hand on and hands can go right into mouths. Art supplies, glue, and even hand sanitiers may need to be from a particular manufacturer that is gluten free. I've poured over many ingredients lists and websites to identify gluten free supplies.
 
Don't know why I've never bothered to ask the teachers before. But I've seen my kids' teachers wipe down table/desks often enough that I could easily believe they do it every day. So the question is - the supply lists say a box of baby wipes, but I usually send in Lysol or Clorox wipes -- is one better than another should I do baby wipes instead?

Gina

Some teachers use both. Clorox for cleaning materials, but particularly if there are food allergies, kids have been asked to wipe hands and mouths following snack and lunch in order to insure a safe classroom environment for students with food allergies. They don't want kids using the Clorox wipes for those purposes.
 
I just wanted to post a quick "thank-you" to whomever it was who recommended Donorschoose.org. I have designated that as my Christmas charity this year, and since both my in-laws are retired teachers, maybe this will be a charity they can live with. Their money staying stateside (until it's spent on foreign-made goods, at least... ) will be a selling point for them, too.

I've actually read this whole thread and:

1- No, it's not about the money, it really is the principal. I am very willing to donate time, money and supplies to my children's classrooms, but if a child is too neglected by their own parents to have the needed supplies and I send in extra, NOBODY has any business telling me what brand it should be. My children, nieces, and nephews use generics and they do just fine, as a supply-challenged child myself at times, I wouldn't have cared what brand it was as long as I could get the work done. I would never send something that we wouldn't/haven't used.

2- Community supplies are fine, but don't take what I labelled for my own children away from them. My daughter is special-needs, and the things I provide for her are supposed to make EVERYONE's life easier. Everything she has is attractive to her to help her keep track of it. Spelling books have ABCs on them and journals have story characters, and when you replace that with "whatever," not only does it set you up for an emotional display that her doctors and I will spend days/weeks undoing when she sees someone else with "her" special folder, it confuses her and undermines what little organization she has. If all her notebooks look the same, she'll never bring home the right one.

3- Teachers really *DO* go through that many pencils. Amazing, but true. Around April of this year I was visiting my daughter's classroom and the teacher mentioned that the few in the jar on her desk were all that were left... and this was after we had sent DOZENS per child in August. At that age, they lose them more than wear them out. I sent in 10 dozen pencils the next day (pre-sharpened, no less). Honestly, they were from dollar tree, and they sharpened just fine for me, but if the teacher was too good to use my free pencils, I'll never know, nor care.

4. Aside from that, so far there's nothing too bizarre on the lists this year. I personally can't stand the smell of hand sanitizer and would greatly prefer they actually WASH, but I understand the logic behind it, and as long as they don't come home reeking of alcohol, whatever...

If a child has an allergy and needs special supplies, their parents should ideally provide those supplies to be kept separately, however, if they cannot afford the gluten-free supplies, for example, the school does have a legal requirement to provide that child fair and equal access to education, including supplies... and there are many, many charities out there who do supply drives that can help out. Just like I take responsibility for providing what my special-needs child requires, even if it means I wear salvation army clothes (and I do), I hope that the other parents do their best to provide for their own child before trying to dictate policy to the rest of us. If not, then I want an addition to the supply list that says that every child must provide stickers and sugar-free candies to do PBIS for my daughter... she is allergic to sudden changes, rude children, and getting embarrassed.
 
Last year he needed 2 packs of index cards - they both came home at the end of the year never used. He needed a 1" binder for English - never used.

On his list this year is 2 - 2" binders, plus 5 composition books. I am waiting to get the binders I have a feeling they don't need 2. All the stuff they need would barely fit in their lockers.

For English class at the start of the school year we received the letter from the teacher with the 5 books they would be reading during the year. And if we could purchase them it would be easier and then your child could write notes in the books. They weren't sure which book they would start with - so I went on line and ordered all 5 books. Guess how many they did - 1 book and they didn't even finish it.
 
LOL I think we teach in the same district! Actually our free/reduced lunch is probably closer to 95%+. I don't ask for anything because I know I'm not going to get it. The last time I tried, I asked for a pencil box. Didn't care what color, brand, or size. Just a pencil box to keep their stuff in. I still ended up buying half the class, but I did have 2 grandma's send in extra since they knew the kids wouldn't buy it. Usually I hit the Walmart sales, this year I refuse to. The boys I had last year broke every crayon in the room so they could throw them at the trash cans. I swore I'd never buy anything again after that. What I really want to know is where are the teachers storing all those supplies? None of our rooms have closets, the only rooms with any type of storage are in the kindergarten and preschool areas. Are they stacking the stuff behind their desk or taking it home until they need it?

My youngest's school has tons of storage space with cupboards and closets. The building was rebuilt 3 years ago due to the need for more space and to repair tornado damage.
 
If it was truly socialist, the school would already have the funding and materials required to do the job based on the taxes that are paid specifically for this purpose, including by those who do not have school age children. :joker:

The schools *DO* have the funding, they *CHOSE* to spend it on bloated administration and union benefits. Why? For the same reason that local governments always threaten to cut police and fire departments. Because *the kids* have an emotional appeal, and people will pony up more money to make it ok for the kids and to make sure they have what they need. Somehow, "give us more money for another administrator" doesn't have quite the same ring to it. Period. Notice how any time there is a bond issue on the ballot you only see dilapidated classrooms? Somehow the fact that a nice shiny new admin building will be built first doesn't get mentioned [Yes, I'm thinking about Los Angeles....] Even when they swear the bond won't be used for anything but the classroom, all they do is shuffle the cash by removing funding already allocated for the classroom into the pet projects and then backfill rather than increase the funding. Its all about priorities for the money and the sell what the public will buy.... In many places, property taxes are used to pay for schools so you do pay whether or not you are using the schools. Infact, even if you are paying for a private school you are still required to pay for the schools....unless you rent.
 
I live in NJ, we pay the highest property taxes in the nation most of which goes to pay for our public education. Our teachers pay almost NOTHING for their health benefits, received them for life and have great pensions. All paid for my our taxes. I am a nurse and my husband is a grocery manager. We are not rich but our property taxes are over $7000 per year. I have become more and more resentful having to supply the school with the necessities to perform the job we pay them to do. Ok I will step down off my soapbox now.

Move.
 
I'm irritated because they want my 1st grader to walk in with 5 packs of crayons.
Five. For each kid. I said that sounded like communism - my husband corrected me to socialism - but whatever! 5 packs of unmarked crayons totally ticks me off. In spite I am thinking about labeling them anyway - that has me fuming.

Even if you label each and every crayon, it is not going to stop the teacher from dumping the crayons in the "crayon bucket." Crayons break, 5 boxes is not unreasonable.

Just to let you know; both Target and Wal-Mart have crayolas on sale for 50 cents a box right now.
 
As one of the high school kids whose parents couldn't afford supplies, thank you to every one of you who happily sends in "extra" items. It was so nice for a teacher to be able to pull me aside after class and hand me things they knew I needed and couldn't afford. Once I turned 16 and could get a job to buy myself the stuff I needed it was so much better, but for the first 2 and a bit years of high school I was really floundering, borrowing stuff from friends and trying to get by on what I could.

(And before anyone jumps on me, my dad died just before 7th grade. My mother struggled after that. A lot. And he couldn't get life insurance because he had a genetic kidney disease - and that wasn't what killed him.)



I think it is awsome that people sent in extra items and that you were covered for school. I am very sorry that your Father died when you were so young.

I think most people have no issue with giving a helping hand where and whenever. What would aggervate me, would be me providing for my child/children and than what I provided not going to them because it was in a pool. If my kids pick out their school supplies than let them use what they pick out. I am more than willing to pay it forward and to donate extras to be handed out as needed, but don't take from my kids to pool and than redistribute out. Sorry, if you think supplies are not that much right now. But when you budget things and pay for everything using cash, I am not going to be able to get all the multiples that you think you the teacher think you need. If you need additional supplies, half way through the year so be it, let me know. Hoarding supplies, is not cool.
 
My kindergartener's list had THREE packs of Crayola Twistable crayons and THREE packs of Crayola Twistable colored pencils. Those don't come cheap.

I would have preferred five packs of regular Crayolas.

I remember having a new box of crayons at the start of the school year, opening the box, seeing the nice crisp points and coloring gingerly to make them last. I would slip them carefully back into the box and close the box right. In a word, we knew that was the only box we'd get all year and we made them last. If you broke a crayon, you used the two halves. If you lost one, you had to borrow a classmate's. What are we teaching our kids by presenting them with mass buckets of community crayons that everyone considers disposable?
 
My kindergartener's list had THREE packs of Crayola Twistable crayons and THREE packs of Crayola Twistable colored pencils. Those don't come cheap.

I would have preferred five packs of regular Crayolas.

I remember having a new box of crayons at the start of the school year, opening the box, seeing the nice crisp points and coloring gingerly to make them last. I would slip them carefully back into the box and close the box right. In a word, we knew that was the only box we'd get all year and we made them last. If you broke a crayon, you used the two halves. If you lost one, you had to borrow a classmate's. What are we teaching our kids by presenting them with mass buckets of community crayons that everyone considers disposable?

WOW ! My kids do not even like the twistable kind, if you drop them and the crayon break inside it will not twist right..

I will say that the only grade my kids had to share was in Kindergarten and the teachers made it very clear on the supply list and at open house how it worked better for the children. They sit at table and do not even have a pace to store anything so it is all in a basket in the middle of the table. The only things on that list were crayons, glue sticks, pencils and scissors..

Once 1st grade came along each and every year after that - my oldest is in 7th grade - teachers request each child have their own pencil box with all items labeled.
 
Some teachers use both. Clorox for cleaning materials, but particularly if there are food allergies, kids have been asked to wipe hands and mouths following snack and lunch in order to insure a safe classroom environment for students with food allergies. They don't want kids using the Clorox wipes for those purposes.

Also schools, like ours, that are part of the green initiative. We will actually get fined if Clorox wipes and other chemicals are found in the school when the school is inspected.
 
I just wanted to post a quick "thank-you" to whomever it was who recommended Donorschoose.org. I have designated that as my Christmas charity this year, and since both my in-laws are retired teachers, maybe this will be a charity they can live with. Their money staying stateside (until it's spent on foreign-made goods, at least... ) will be a selling point for them, too.

I've actually read this whole thread and:

1- No, it's not about the money, it really is the principal. I am very willing to donate time, money and supplies to my children's classrooms, but if a child is too neglected by their own parents to have the needed supplies and I send in extra, NOBODY has any business telling me what brand it should be. My children, nieces, and nephews use generics and they do just fine, as a supply-challenged child myself at times, I wouldn't have cared what brand it was as long as I could get the work done. I would never send something that we wouldn't/haven't used.

2- Community supplies are fine, but don't take what I labelled for my own children away from them. My daughter is special-needs, and the things I provide for her are supposed to make EVERYONE's life easier. Everything she has is attractive to her to help her keep track of it. Spelling books have ABCs on them and journals have story characters, and when you replace that with "whatever," not only does it set you up for an emotional display that her doctors and I will spend days/weeks undoing when she sees someone else with "her" special folder, it confuses her and undermines what little organization she has. If all her notebooks look the same, she'll never bring home the right one.

3- Teachers really *DO* go through that many pencils. Amazing, but true. Around April of this year I was visiting my daughter's classroom and the teacher mentioned that the few in the jar on her desk were all that were left... and this was after we had sent DOZENS per child in August. At that age, they lose them more than wear them out. I sent in 10 dozen pencils the next day (pre-sharpened, no less). Honestly, they were from dollar tree, and they sharpened just fine for me, but if the teacher was too good to use my free pencils, I'll never know, nor care.

4. Aside from that, so far there's nothing too bizarre on the lists this year. I personally can't stand the smell of hand sanitizer and would greatly prefer they actually WASH, but I understand the logic behind it, and as long as they don't come home reeking of alcohol, whatever...

If a child has an allergy and needs special supplies, their parents should ideally provide those supplies to be kept separately, however, if they cannot afford the gluten-free supplies, for example, the school does have a legal requirement to provide that child fair and equal access to education, including supplies... and there are many, many charities out there who do supply drives that can help out. Just like I take responsibility for providing what my special-needs child requires, even if it means I wear salvation army clothes (and I do), I hope that the other parents do their best to provide for their own child before trying to dictate policy to the rest of us. If not, then I want an addition to the supply list that says that every child must provide stickers and sugar-free candies to do PBIS for my daughter... she is allergic to sudden changes, rude children, and getting embarrassed.

I completely agree with all of your points. In regards to the pencils I can see asking for 2 (even 3) dozen but 8 dozen is ridiculous! I have no problem at all providing supplies for my kids as well as some extras. I do have a problem with teachers dictating exact brands or things such as that markers have to be fruit scented (how ridiculous!) Simply stating that these are suggestions rather than then what is required would be a much better solution and not have so many people upset by the requests.

As for schools ability to provide for kids, I really believe that many schools can use better funding but also that there is much misappropriation of funds that most schools do receive.
 
I know in my kids elementary school the supply lists were the same for the whole grade even if that meant some teachers were getting supplies they didn't want or need. One year I happened to mention to a teacher that the PTA was going to buy a bunch a sandwich bags (we give each kid one that is labeled with their name and teacher for box tops). She brought me over to her cabinet and handed me enough boxes of sandwich bags for the whole school. One of the teachers in that grade used them so they all had them. If the kids had their name on them she would return them at the end of the year. After that, I started asking the teacher at open house which supplies they really wanted my kids to have. I also would send in paper towels, tissues and that sort of thing mid year because they really didn't have the storage for everything.

One thing I do, now that my kids are out of elementary, is still get school supplies. The middle and high school teachers around here mostly just ask for the supplies that the kids will be using. Things like dry erase markers and tissues come out of their own pocket. My father teaches middle school science and his school expected him to buy the supplies for the required labs. Out of his own pocket. For 150 students!

I stock up on school supplies when they are super cheap at the beginning of the year and then send them in with my daughter throughout the year. The middle and high school teachers are very appreciative.

As for school funding, there are frequently things people don't know about. For example: Florida is moving the FCATS from a scantron type test, where all the school needed to give the student was a number 2 pencil, to a computer based test. At my daughter's high school, this meant not only having to add memory to all of the library computers, but also having to get a battery back up for each computer. The school was told that if the computer lost power during the test the student would not be able to log back into it. The test would be invalid. Since schools are required to test a certain percentage of students this had the potential to put them out of compliance. It was a big expense.
 
The sad thing to me is all of the waste by the kids. I have worked in a middle school and now a high school. In middle school, we would hold a locker clean out the last week of school. Staff members would stand around with boxes and bins asking kids to donate anything they didn't want. We'd also go through the trash cans because some kids were too cool to donate. We would come up with tons of brand new supplies that kids never used and didn't want to take home. We kept the supplies available for any students who needed things or teachers who needed them.

I just finished my first year at the high school and was absolutely blown away by the waste. We never had an official clean out, but cans were left around the school for students to throw stuff away. One of my co-workers and I sifted through several of them to find usable supplies. I even had a student give me brand new things from their locker and apparently another staff member stole some of that stuff from on top of my cabinet. Nice!

Another staff member (a friend of mine) is given the task of cleaning out the lockers after school was done. I was in the building the next day and my friend gave me first crack at what he had collected so far. I came home with a huge bag of stuff to keep my room going next year. There was still tons of stuff left and he was maybe through 20% of the lockers. My friend keeps a supply in his office to give to kids in need during the year and the rest goes to the office. I understand they keep some for kids in need and the teachers claim the rest of it to have in their classrooms. The more personal and valuable things (keys, eye glasses, calculators and jump drives) are held in the office lost and found, but are seldom claimed by their owners.

I really wonder if any of those parents have any idea that the supplies they spend their hard earned money on just get tossed in the trash or left in a locker. It boggles my mind.
 














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