Pool use? When to declare DS potty trained

[Skatermom23]

I think when a child has the ability to "hold it" and can verbally let me know that he/she needs to use the restroom, then I will say they are fully trained.

 

[castlegazer]

To answer your question about what would we do faced with the local requirments in MI for usage of swim diapers for all children under a certain age - My answer would be, I would not go. You will find that it is a source of great pride for your child once they get it and achieve potty training. Its not something to be messed with by putting on a diaper for long rides or for extended periods of shopping and the same goes for swimming in pools. I would find another pool to use.

And to reiterate, swim diapers do NOT hold pee in at all. It flows right through them. They are designed only to hold in the poop for a short period of time so that you can get them out and changed.

 

[jodifla]

To answer your question about what would we do faced with the local requirments in MI for usage of swim diapers for all children under a certain age - My answer would be, I would not go. You will find that it is a source of great pride for your child once they get it and achieve potty training. Its not something to be messed with by putting on a diaper for long rides or for extended periods of shopping and the same goes for swimming in pools. I would find another pool to use.

And to reiterate, swim diapers do NOT hold pee in at all. It flows right through them. They are designed only to hold in the poop for a short period of time so that you can get them out and changed.

This seems a strident view to me, but of course, you are entitled to it. My DS seems to treat pullups and swim diapers as undwear now. He takes them off before he has to go.

Thanks for your input. I think we are on track for next May, certainly.

 

[lbgraves]

I agree with what castlegazer said. A 3 yo may be fine with using pull ups for possible accidents but a 3 1/2 or 4 yo who has been PTd for a year would surely balk at being made to wear a diaper again...in any form. One thing that made dd SO proud when she finally was PTd was that she didn't have to wear baby diapers any more. Picking out her big girl panties was a celebration. There is no way that she would consent to wearing a diaper again for any reason.

 

[crisi]

To answer your question about what would we do faced with the local requirments in MI for usage of swim diapers for all children under a certain age - My answer would be, I would not go. You will find that it is a source of great pride for your child once they get it and achieve potty training. Its not something to be messed with by putting on a diaper for long rides or for extended periods of shopping and the same goes for swimming in pools. I would find another pool to use.

And to reiterate, swim diapers do NOT hold pee in at all. It flows right through them. They are designed only to hold in the poop for a short period of time so that you can get them out and changed.

And I suspect that is where the CDC is coming from. Kids in swim diapers can "hide" that they pooped. But the diaper isn't sufficient (nor is rubber pants) to keep the bacteria out of the water. So it might be hours between contaimination and cleaning the pool. When not wearing swim diapers, when a kid poops, it doesn't take long at all for someone to notice the floatie. The pool is cleared out and cleaned.

 

[Ariel&Flounder'sMom]

This is an interesting discussion. I have a question: the last post makes the good point that with a swim diaper, the bacteria is in the pool long before it's known there was a poop. Maybe I'm a bad mom, but I often don't realize my DD2 has pooped until she comes close enough to me that I can smell her. That may be awhile.

So even if a child has on a swim diaper, isn't even less safe since you don't know there's poo in the pool? (what an interesting conversation)

(and boy, have I learned the hard way about swim diapers and pee this summer - ugh! Although, that feeling of pee running down her leg may be helping her to PT.)

 

[lbgraves]

Oh boy! If a parent has a child in a pool with a swim diaper it is simply their responsibility to watch their child to see when they poop. I don't think that my kids were out of the ordinary and it was quite obvious when they were doing their business. Facial expressions were usually the give away.

 

[jodifla]

Oh boy! If a parent has a child in a pool with a swim diaper it is simply their responsibility to watch their child to see when they poop. I don't think that my kids were out of the ordinary and it was quite obvious when they were doing their business. Facial expressions were usually the give away.

My son is totally stealthy. You can never tell, unfortunately.

 

[crisi]

My kids didn't have distinct facial expressions or signs. I wouldn't have been able to tell. And my daughter - until she was trained - completely didn't care if she had a load. She'd fight diaper changes - she'd rather just run around soiled. Pulling her out of the Mickey Pool would have been a no go. And frankly, I don't trust other parents to keep a full pair of eyes on their kids for that telltale expression - no swim diapers (and the sqweels of horror that occur when someone notices an accident) seem like a better system.

 

[castlegazer]

no swim diapers (and the sqweels of horror that occur when someone notices an accident) seem like a better system.

we also didn't use pull ups at all for training, so that may be the difference in my consternation over the matter of swim diaper requirements versus your feelings on the matter.

 

[Skallywag]

If you really believe what you stated then, the same must apply for people over the age of 50 because they have the same issues. Weak bladders... So your arguement states that because we can't guarantee that all 4 years olds are trained then, all should wear swim diapers. Well, then, the same would apply to adults. I'm sure you have heard of depends

Just cannot believe that anyone would be as insulting to over 50s as the above -

For information both of our children were fully potty trained at 12 months with no problem - just took patience.

Know other children that take much longer - just depends. Sometimes feel it is the fault of disposable nappies as it is so much easier just to change them and throw them away rather than the when my children were small and had terry towel ones.

 

[OurDogCisco]

If you really believe what you stated then, the same must apply for people over the age of 50 because they have the same issues. Weak bladders... So your arguement states that because we can't guarantee that all 4 years olds are trained then, all should wear swim diapers. Well, then, the same would apply to adults. I'm sure you have heard of depends

Just cannot believe that anyone would be as insulting to over 50s as the above -

For information both of our children were fully potty trained at 12 months with no problem - just took patience.

Know other children that take much longer - just depends. Sometimes feel it is the fault of disposable nappies as it is so much easier just to change them and throw them away rather than the when my children were small and had terry towel ones.

Brenda,

Do you really think I believe that! Please... I don't... I was pointing out how "insulting" the original comment was and how ridiciously it was...

Tina

 

[AFMom]

We used swim diapers when the kids were little because they were required in FL even though the kids were potty trained, at our local pool. It wasn't too big of a deal ( I don't think my boys cared as long as they got to swim)- but I didn't get what the help was, either. The pee came right out, and #2 wouldn't have stayed in long! When they were babies - I would actually time the pool trips around their #2's! Wait till they go, go to the pool for a while (they can only be out fo so long anyway), then get them out before another #2 was due.
Also - no child should EVER be allowed in a pool if they've had any sort of stomach upsets that include vomiting or diarreah within about 24 hours. Talking to the people that work at our community pool here - they say it's always they little ones that have been sick recently that cause the pools to be closed. I can imagine on a cruise ship with the different food & water, motion sickness, schedule changes, etc that these sorts of problems with the kiddos could be an issue.
Even with a great filtration system - our pool has had to close a few times for #2 accidents so that they could flush the system, shock the water with chemicals, etc. I don't know anything about the systems on cruise ships - I wonder why they are so different?

 

[3xthecharm]

Completely trained to me means about a month without a pee accident and several months without a poop accident. IMHO

I think the accidents in most pools is due to those that lie and/or a child that is not taken to the bathroom more frequently than they normally would at home. Kids get playing and don't realize that they have to go until it is too late.

I recommend taking a trained child to the bathroom before swimming and then atlest every half hour.

PS My daughter and two sons were all trained by 1.75 years old. They would have died if they had to wear rubber pants or a swimmy until they were 3 let alone 4. Besides, as others have mentioned these things do not "contain" the problem.