Pooh Case Dismissed

[Harryo]

Well after 13 years of battle looks like the case has been dismissed by a Superior Court judge.

 

[Razor Roman]

That's really good news for the Disney company, unfortunately it's also good news for Unca Mikey

 

[tink2]

Yeah!!!!! I was worried they would loose the rights to Pooh if it kept getting ugly! That would have been a MAJOR blow to Disney-and my children. What's a visit to WDW without Crystal Palace and Pooh and the gang?
Finally some good news for the Disney company!

 

[Luv2Roam]

That REALLY surprises me, but I am GLAD!

 

[neosnightmare]

i think that i missed this lawsuit. what exactly happened?

 

[DancingBear]

I'm cookin' up the crow for a number of folks on this board. Ya' know, the ones who went on and on about Disney's egregious actions in the case----and then the case gets tossed based on the egregious actions of the plaintiff!!!!!!

So come on, guys, how do you like it? Stuffed and roasted?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040330/ap_on_bi_ge/pooh_dispute_8

 

[jlambrig]

Originally posted by DancingBear
I'm cookin' up the crow for a number of folks on this board. Ya' know, the ones who went on and on about Disney's egregious actions in the case

I am also reminded of something similar with regards to the Caterpillar case and George of the Jungle. That got tossed out too even though we heard, probably from the same posters as here, how Disney was going to lose. Funny how certain posters lose their "Voice" after so dramatically and definitively exclaiming their so called expertise.

 

[KNWVIKING]

What's interesting to me is the lack of interest with this ruling. Had Disney been found guilty, The Element would have been out in full force, extolling their legal expertise and declaring the Evil ME was finally being taken to task.

Instead, the case is dismissed, Disney basically gets to keep about $800 mil in profits it's earned over the years and the news is barely a blip on the Boards.

I also found it interesting that the news had very little affect - if any - on Disney's stock price yesterday.

 

[DancingBear]

To be fair, Disney settled the Caterpillar suit.

http://wvgazette.com/section/APNews/News/ap0954n

 

[neosnightmare]

Originally posted by DancingBear
To be fair, Disney settled the Caterpillar suit.

http://wvgazette.com/section/APNews/News/ap0954n

thats pretty weird how they would have to recall all of those copies. i guess that its better than a multi million/billion lawsuit.

they increased the PAP rate enuff alredy.

 

[DancingBear]

Caterpillar sought to have the DVDs recalled, but they settled the suit and Disney did not in fact recall the DVDs. I'm sure Disney stroked a check to make this suit go away.

 

[WDSearcher]

Originally posted by KNWVIKING
What's interesting to me is the lack of interest with this ruling. Had Disney been found guilty, The Element would have been out in full force, extolling their legal expertise and declaring the Evil ME was finally being taken to task.

Instead, the case is dismissed, Disney basically gets to keep about $800 mil in profits it's earned over the years and the news is barely a blip on the Boards.

I also found it interesting that the news had very little affect - if any - on Disney's stock price yesterday.

There may not be interest here, but in my office Winnie the Pooh is doing happy dances in the hallways.

Literally.

 

[DemoBri1]

Originally posted by KNWVIKING
What's interesting to me is the lack of interest with this ruling. Had Disney been found guilty, The Element would have been out in full force, extolling their legal expertise and declaring the Evil ME was finally being taken to task.

Instead, the case is dismissed, Disney basically gets to keep about $800 mil in profits it's earned over the years and the news is barely a blip on the Boards.

I also found it interesting that the news had very little affect - if any - on Disney's stock price yesterday.

It just goes to show that the old adage is true, a majority of the time people will not post praises, but rather harp on the negative aspects of any situation.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Originally posted by KNWVIKING
What's interesting to me is the lack of interest with this ruling. Had Disney been found guilty, The Element would have been out in full force, extolling their legal expertise and declaring the Evil ME was finally being taken to task.

Instead, the case is dismissed, Disney basically gets to keep about $800 mil in profits it's earned over the years and the news is barely a blip on the Boards.

Agreed.

MG

 

[raidermatt]

Since the "Element" is being called out as a group, I guess that includes me.

I don't believe I ever made any kind of prediction about how the trial would turn out, so you can keep your crow in your pot for my part.

I did rag on Disney for destroying the box of records labeled "Do Not Destroy - Pooh Lawsuit", and I still believe they didn't handle the situation as they should have. (I'm guessing the money spend on legal fees is not exactly peanuts)

It was a precarious enough situation that Disney had to issue warnings to shareholders.

Still, in the end, it was rich blowhards sueing other rich blowhards.

But if you want to know if the news of the dismissal should have elicited heaps of praise on the Company, check out the impartial reaction of Wall Street to the announcement.

Disney didn't gain anything. They just avoided a potential loss. They still have the same problems running their business today as they did a week ago.

 

[DancingBear]

Originally posted by raidermatt
I don't believe I ever made any kind of prediction about how the trial would turn out, so you can keep your crow in your pot for my part.

Oh, come on, Matt, not even just a bite?

The point is that Disney has a contractual obligation to live up to. I'll admit that you never know how its going to work out until its over, but there is very little reason to think Disney is going to get off scott-free in this. Its pretty clear that at the minimum they will have to fork over a significant amount of cash.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=287390&highlight=+widow

I think the reason that this didn't affect the stock price is that it didn't come as a big surprise to Wall Street. After all, you had to wonder why, if the poor widow had such a strong case, she kept having to change lawyers.

 

[DemoBri1]

Originally posted by raidermatt
But if you want to know if the news of the dismissal should have elicited heaps of praise on the Company, check out the impartial reaction of Wall Street to the announcement.

Disney didn't gain anything. They just avoided a potential loss. They still have the same problems running their business today as they did a week ago.

Matt,

I don't think anyone is saying that praise should have been elicited in this case. At least I'm not. All I was trying to say that people tend to post complaints more than praise.

Brian

 

[KNWVIKING]

RE:All I was trying to say that people tend to post complaints more than praise.


You can go to any board that trip reports are posted on and see this. If a poster gives a glowing report, the thread is on page three by the end of the day. If they ***** about a CM that didn't have his smile on straight, look out.....minimum of five pages, getting uglier with each page.

Look back on this board for the Water Bottle on Splash thread. How long did that go on ? Wonder what the responses would have been had another person started a thread about how clean the restrooms were over in Tommorowland ?

 

[raidermatt]

Really, Vike? You want crow served over that?

Now, if somebody had disagreed at the time, I'd be willing to give them credit. But since nobody did, the crow seems to be more than a bit of a reach.

I guess I can have a taste, if it makes you feel better, but you'll need to do better next time.

All I was trying to say that people tend to post complaints more than praise.

I'm not sure I buy this. Certainly there are counters made to every criticism leveled in most threads. To Vike's point, the critical threads often are longer, but a lot of that is because there is usually a lot of discussion between those that agree and those that don't.

Really, whether one posts praise for Disney all depends on your frame of reference. If you are comparing Disney to a company on the verge of bankruptcy, certainly you will feel compelled to point out how things aren't that bad.

But if you are comparing Disney to what it used to be, and what it should be, praising the things they do right does nothing but distract from the real point.

We also need to keep in mind the board we are posting on. This board is a place for critical discussion of direction, based on the current happenings within and around Disney. (It starts with the posting of a rumor or news item of course, but then it goes from there)

So it follows that there isn't going to be a lot of Pixie Dust just for the sake of making everybody feel better.

The theme park board is a place for a much more tactical approach. Its not a place to go and rip on Eisner's baffonery, because its a place for people to get advice and learn about what there is to see and do. Its ok to say if a ride stinks of course, but the purpose is to help somebody plan. Consequently, that board has a lot more of the positive posts some seem to be looking for.

It just doesn't consider strategic direction very much, but that's fine for that arena.

 

[KNWVIKING]

..... this point you made is exactly what I've been complaining about for a long time:

***"But if you are comparing Disney to what it used to be, and what it should be, praising the things they do right does nothing but distract from the real point."***

When Disney does something "right", why can't it be universally agreed upon that it's a positive step in the right direction. You know as well as I do that their are posters here who will never say "great job", or "well done" to any project or improvement. The closest you'll get is a "yeah, BUT.....". Personally, I think their hatred for ME precludeds or prejudice's their ability to have an open mind. It comes down to an "all or nothing" mentality and that is counterproductive to any true discussion or debate.