POLL: What Appliances are Appropriate/Inappropriate?

[lucky_bunni]

I don't know about all this stuff about the fat in ramen really being a concern, however, I know that the sodium in those things can't be good for you. I think like 1 ramen equals your sodium intake for the day. So if you eat 1 ramen and anything else with sodium in 1 day than you might have a problem.

FatCow- your comment about Weight Watchers is a little misguided; The program isn't a joke. My mom lost like 60 lbs using their program.

 

[FatCow]

You're suggesting that more than 10 dieticians and doctors are wrong too? (they are practicing in Latvia, Australia, Canada, USA and Indonesia)

Please read the post properly. NEVER I said that the program does not work. However, even without dieting whatsoever (only with minor re-organizing the meals) and also without any exercise whatsoever, I can lose 10 pounds and maintaining it.

All with $0 money, $0 consultation fee and $0 cost of food, 0 second spend in exercising. (do you see a hint of cheapness in me? )

Now just imagine if I do the 40-minute/3-days-a-week exercise... how much more weight can I lose? Furthermore, if I stop all my unecessary diet of chicken wings and potato chips, I will lose weight even further.

The only reason they claim that the program is a joke is because you can get a very similar, if not better, results just by re-organizing your eating pattern. Forget about changing eating habit, forget about changing the food portion, forget about exercising.

PS: recommended daily sodium intake is 24 grams to 25 grams. If you said that ramen's sodium content is equal to the daily sodium intake, that means a 65 gram ramen (typical size ramen) has 24 grams of sodium. How is that possible? If what you're saying is true, than about 30% of the ramen is pure salt.

The typical sodium content in a ramen is about 1.3 grams. So you have (accidentally?) exaggerated your claim by 2000%. That's quite an exagerration.

Please research your information. Everybody is entitled to an INFORMED opinion, not just rumours and make-believe (urban legend).

Try it yourself and you'll be surprised with the result.

 

[FatCow]

I'm sorry, the line:

Try it yourself and you'll be surprised with the result.

is supposed to be for the food re-arrangement diet, not about the research (I'm not THAT cruel)

 

[lucky_bunni]

Ok, well here are some nutrition facts I'm getting directly off the packs of ramen I had around my house:

Maruchan Ramen - Mushroom Flavor (85g)

Calories: 380
Total Fat: 16g 24% daily value
Sodium: 1,820mg 78% DV

Maruchan Instant Lunch - Creamy Alfredo (64g)

Calories: 300
Total Fat: 15g 23% DV
Sodium: 1,360mg 57% DV

Indomie Ramen Noodles - Chicken Curry Flavour (80g)

Calories: 320
Total Fat: 12g 20% DV
Sodium: 1,020mg 42% DV

These are all based on eating the entire package (which most adults do), not splitting into two servings as most packages suggest.

Ok, lets compare those numbers to some McDonalds food:

McDonald's Cheeseburger (119g)

Calories: 330
Total Fat: 14g 22% DV
Sodium: 790g 33% DV

McDonald's Chicken McNuggets - 6 piece (96g)

Calories: 250
Total Fat: 15g 22% DV
Sodium: 670g 28% DV

McDonalds French Fries - McValue size (105g)

Calories: 320
Total Fat: 16g 24% DV
Sodium: 210g 9% DV

I'm suggesting by these figures that Ramen is probably not a healthy food that you or your family should be eating on a regular basis (such as for every meal on a 10 days trip to WDW).

 

[FatCow]

so my figure is correct then, about 1.3 grams of sodium per packet of ramen.

Don't forget that you can't compare gram per gram ramen vs burger because ramen is based on pre-cooked weight.

Now, a cooked ramen (with its soup), WILL be around 330 grams, which is equivalent to 3 cheeseburgers.

Therefore, one full 330grams cooked ramen will have the fat content (based on your figure) of 16 grams whereas 330 grams of cheeseburgers will have the total fat content of 42 grams.

On top of that, the same serving of ramen will have 1.8 grams of sodium versus 2.4 grams of sodium in a same-weight cheeseburger.

PS: nobody eats the ramen raw and that's the 'tactic' to make ramen looks worse than cheeseburger.

 

[lucky_bunni]

Nobody is eating it raw, but you only add WATER to it. So can you explain how that would change the nutritional value ANY from its dehydrated or hydrated state. Yes, the size would change, but you are still consuming the same thing and the same amount of sodium, fat, calories, etc! Water neither erases or adds sodium, fat, or calories.

 

[ginna74]

hey if disney says it is ok when you call then do it.... that is what it comes to really.... don't let people bother you.. some go beyond their opinion and really judge you and try to make you feel bad.... all in all when you are there (because that was the only way you could go) you are not going to be thinking of the poster who told you off because they thought they were right and you are going to h@ll lol

I have lurked for a while now and it is helped me so much! I can't wait to go and feel I know what to expect... I really do... some subjects rub me the wrong way and I admit I speak out sometimes... I believe many others do in hot topics like this as well... just take some replies with a grain of salt and know you will have a great time

 

[FatCow]

Originally posted by lucky_bunni
Nobody is eating it raw, but you only add WATER to it. So can you explain how that would change the nutritional value ANY from its dehydrated or hydrated state. Yes, the size would change, but you are still consuming the same thing and the same amount of sodium, fat, calories, etc! Water neither erases or adds sodium, fat, or calories.

Not really. One would need to eat x amount of food to fill their stomach. Now if someone needs 330 grams of food (be it soup, be it solids), then the fat content and sodium of cheeseburger is much higher than ramen.

I'm not going to argue any longer because it seems like you need to be in the right. If the logical explanation of professionals means nothing to you, then what else can I say?

I'm just going to unsubscribe this one particulal thread.

 

[DMRick]

hey if disney says it is ok when you call then do it.... that is what it comes to really.... don't let people bother you..

If you call Disney in advance, and tell them what you plan on making in your room (not , gee I'd like to bring a mini micro to heat water), if in fact you plan on regular meals, and they say yes (although I just can't understand why people wouldn't cook smelly stuff in the cafteria) then, that is up to you. The nice part of this board, is most people DO care about the opinions of others, and had just not thought about the smells they have left behind on the curtains, walls, etc. So some very valid sugestions have been made, for how to cook that food without causing a problem for others. I am one who called Disney ahead, asked for a manager, and after much ado, he came to the phone, and I was told no, they do supply a place to cook. But in reality, it's all in how you ask the question. You can easily ask in a way where you will get the answer you want. I asked specifically about micro's and crock pots, and cooking food. I was told the outlet was not GFI outlet, near the table, and that the room was not set up for cooking, or cleaning up. He did say many people eat light food and delivered food in their rooms. I posted this some time ago, during another thread, much like this.

 

[HappyLawyer]

a micro and fridge, those with children who don't have millions to spend can keep milk cold heat pop tarts and everything else, if u were home you could smell it in the house, bring air freshner and move on, when u book a hotel that offers that u know what to expect, may hotels dont offer fridges and waves

 

[lucky_bunni]

Originally posted by FatCow
If the logical explanation of professionals means nothing to you, then what else can I say?

Oh, you're the professional right? I don't think so, earlier you kept saying "oh, my doctor friends say this and that". Hey, it's a debate here, if you don't like someone challenging your opinion, then maybe you should go.

 

[FatCow]

Wow! Somebody REALLY needs to learn how to read.
You know, education can be a very good thing.

Have I ever mentioned that I'm the professional? No, No, No... and... NO!

However, you're insinuating that all my friends who are doctors and dieticians are wrong. Doesn't matter how you're calculating it, you have to calculate the food based on the prepared weight, not at dehydrated rate.

330 grams of cooked ramen vs 330 grams of cheeseburger still means:

1. much less fat on the ramen
2. much less sodium on the ramen

Which in return means: eating ramen is actually HEALTHIER than eating cheeseburger in terms of fat and sodium intake.

The math says that, the science says that.

it's fact, plain and simple... and you keep twisting my words around and taking my words out of context.

 

[lucky_bunni]

But much of that 330 grams of ramen is liquid, not solid. Eating a bowl of Ramen, your still getting a similar amount of solids as eating a cheeseburger. The liquid 'dead-weight' of the ramen doesn't make up for the fact that you are still consuming similar sodium/calories/and fat. If I pop open a can of chicken broth and drink it that doesn't come out to the same thing as eating something solid.

 

[jann1033]

Originally posted by ginna74
well... just take some replies with a grain of salt and know you will have a great time

to be on topic of the present off off off off off topic, make that a grain Of "Ramen "and you are in business! ( sorry I ever mentioned it to start with, ay yi yi)

now on topic, I wonder if you need to call your resort, ask them and go by that,,,then so what , no one needs to know or care what you do most of all enjoy your vacation, micro or not!

 

[DMRick]

I think we need a new poll..does anyone really care if someone feeds their kid noodles during the whole vacation LOL? I hate to think what would be said of me, the month my kid would only eat stuff that was red..and apples and tomatoes weren't included LOL. A week of ramen noodles won't hurt anyone, let alone an active kid. I'm sure the poster will include Mickey ice creams for calcium, and chocolate candy bars for energy.

As far as the rest of the subject..hey, don't stink up my room before I get there, and I really don't give a heck what you do in it.

 

[lucky_bunni]

Actually I posted a debate inspired by the 'ramen' issue over on the debate boards. It's about your responsibility to feed your kids healthy food. Enjoy.

 

[lucky_bunni]

This was a fun thread and I miss it, any chance to revive it?

 

[Crazy4mandms]

LOL...okay...I'm packing for my april trip and here's a sample of what's going on in my room at the POFQ.....

Sunday night dinner in the room family style!

green bean casserole (in my microwave), gravy (homemade, slowly simmered using my portable single electric burner!), a fresh, tossed salad using my salad shooter, steamed brussel sprouts (gotta have the veggie steamer with me to make them just right!); we have to have our ethnic favorites so kielbasa and kraut in the crockpot; margaritas in the blender all while the george foreman rotisserie cooks my turkey to perfection! MMMMM....MMMM!!!! O! And what would turkey and gravy be without mashed potatoes....can't forget the electric mixer!! See? There's more to room cooking than those nasty no-good ramen noodles!! And some of you were worried about taking along just your toaster!! I hope the rest of the resort doesn't need electricty between 5 and 8 pm cuz we might blow a fuse!!

 

[Crazy4mandms]

oh..and I forgot to mention...we upgraded to the POFQ expressly for the double sinks...one for washing our hands and the other for rinsing and cutting raw meat!! lol

 

[floridagirrl2]

Crazy, I know some people were worried about the idea of kids eating ramen noodles--glad your menu is so nutritionally sound!