POLL: What Appliances are Appropriate/Inappropriate?

[lucky_bunni]

Originally posted by FatCow
pardon me for being the devil's advocate here, but doesn't that mean that she's cooking while she's on vacation ???

oh well, can't we just have threads with OPINIONS but without JUDGING OTHER PEOPLE?

or do I have to start a "Things You Cook While You're IN THE ROOM at WDW Resort" thread

How am I judging.. this thread was about the appropriateness of cooking in a guestroom. I stated that I thought it is completly inappropriate to cook anything in a guestroom that can't be made in 1) a coffee maker or 2) with an electric tea kettle.

I offered the Fort Wilderness Campground option for those who can't resist cooking on their vacation. It is a wonderful place, and you can bring all the appliances you can travel with... and not bother other guests.

If people felt judged by my opinion I'm sorry. I just draw the line where what you do on vacation is effecting other guests.

 

[lucky_bunni]

Originally posted by dandave
Bingo!! Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner, folks!
Just as it is none of your business how people choose to vacation or what they choose to eat. Get it?

That's wierd, I thought the topic of the thread was to assert our opinion on what people should/shouldn't do on vacation as far as food in guestrooms goes. Hmm...

 

[FatCow]

to assert opinion: yes
to judge other people: no

 

[C.Ann]

Originally posted by DMRick
Only one person (well maybe two) felt that way, so I don't think it proceeded to that. Most of us understand. You do what you have to do, and if eating Ramen noodles gets you to Disney..good for you. And by now, you know you can save money by eating in the foodcourt..but you don't have to buy there. Hope you have a great trip.

Ummm..I know where there is a thread where you can trade stuff for refillable mugs!

Geesh, can't the people here cut the guy some slack? I thought everyone went on vacation to Disney without money at one time or another.

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You're right.. It was only a couple of people who felt that way, but it irritates me SO much, I just can't keep my mouth shut.. It's that same attitude of, "Well if you can't afford to stay on-site you might as well "stay home" because you're going to miss ALL the "magic"..: Or - "If you can't afford to spend a couple of bucks on a bottle of water in the parks (or don't choose to) you might as well "stay home" until you can afford it.."

Not everyone travels on the same budget - or in the same manner - and shock of all shocks, some people actually prefer to save money even when they have a BOAT LOAD of it..

If it's a choice of PB&J 3 times a day - as opposed to disappointing his DD and missing out on a relaxing time that I'm sure they desperately need, I say go with the PB&J !!!

Just stay away from those refillable mugs - you never know what someone might have put in them....

 

[dandave]

lucky_bunni, This thread was about what appliances should/shouldn't be used in guestrooms. I don't agree with cooking in guestrooms, either, but to say this:

Originally posted by lucky_bunni
Who the hell wants to eat ramen and instant soup ON VACATION? I go to Disney World now days just to eat at their wonderful restaurants! I mean isn't a vacation about not worrying about things like cooking. If you can't afford a vacation at Disney World, the real experience, then go camping or something until you can get enough money not to have to eat ramen noodles for every meal down there.

insuates that much more than "appliances" are our business. I disagree.

 

[lucky_bunni]

Originally posted by C.Ann
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You're right.. It was only a couple of people who felt that way, but it irritates me SO much, I just can't keep my mouth shut.. It's that same attitude of, "Well if you can't afford to stay on-site you might as well "stay home" because you're going to miss ALL the "magic"..: Or - "If you can't afford to spend a couple of bucks on a bottle of water in the parks (or don't choose to) you might as well "stay home" until you can afford it.."

Not everyone travels on the same budget - or in the same manner - and shock of all shocks, some people actually prefer to save money even when they have a BOAT LOAD of it..

If it's a choice of PB&J 3 times a day - as opposed to disappointing his DD and missing out on a relaxing time that I'm sure they desperately need, I say go with the PB&J !!!

Just stay away from those refillable mugs - you never know what someone might have put in them....

I never said someone couldn't eat PB&J or even Ramen in their rooms. I just said that I don't know how 10 days and night of that could be very fun. It's fine if they want to do it, more power to them. I do however stand behind my opinion that cooking meals (and you all know what I mean by meals -- excludes Ramen, sandwiches) is digusting and unacceptable b/c it effects other guests. The opinion wasn't meant to judge any specific person, although it could be meant to judge a person who does cook in their room if they choose to take it that way.

 

[DMRick]

That's wierd, I thought the topic of the thread was to assert our opinion on what people should/shouldn't do on vacation as far as food in guestrooms goes. Hmm...

This thread was about cooking in rooms, and what did people think was appropriate. You said the following which sounded like a judgement on someone's character to many of us. While your opinion on if ramen noodles should be cooked in a room would be a valid post IMO, making someone feel bad because that is what they can afford or choose to eat, would not be (again, just my own opinion). On the Disboards, I believe personal attacks are not allowed, and many saw this as a personal attack:
IN part:

Who the hell wants to eat ramen and instant soup ON VACATION? I go to Disney World now days just to eat at their wonderful restaurants!

 

[lucky_bunni]

I was just stating that it was odd that anyone would want to eat ramen instead of eating at one of the many great restaurant options at WDW. Many are afordable, albeit maybe not as inexpensive as ramen. It was not meant as a personal attack, just to expression of my surprise over anyone chosing to eat ramen during their entire Disney vacation.

 

[floridagirrl2]

Originally posted by lucky_bunni
I mean isn't a vacation about not worrying about things like cooking.

There's your quote!

 

[Hawk]

Originally posted by floridagirrl2
FatCow, don't take it personally--if you read a lot of threads on the Dis boards, you will see that there are certain posters who habitually post criticisms of other posters in virtually every thread they post to. It seems to be a sport for some posters!

floridagirl - I am probably one of those "posters" you talk about, however I don't agree with it as being a "sport". I agree that many times I, among others, are quick to give a reply without careful thought on how it will be interpreted. I don't apply to these boards as a seminar on etiquette. I apply as a member of a "community" of people that loves WDW. We give our opinions and hope that they are not taken personally and not intended to degrade other people or their way of life. Sure, I live differently than others and sometimes fail to see that diversity. It is never intended to berate others or put them down. When it is pointed out to me, I try to quickly make amends or qualify my opinion. It is my opinion that some people are over-sensitive and take to heart too much of what is said on these boards, but that is them and their way, not mine. These boards are for "discussion" and that means differences of opinions at times. Differences of opinions come in many ways as we see in the world today.

Let me make it clear to all who read posts from me, as I have said many times, while my posts are somewhat blunt at times, they are never intended to be a personal attack. It is just my way of putting my point across - and not necessarily the right one. I have monitored this post and I see many opinions - I hope they are taken in the context of discussion and not personally.

That being said - I'll see all those at WDW in FOUR DAYS!

Hawk

 

[jann1033]

Originally posted by floridagirrl2
So Jann, are you saying you don't think people should eat in their rooms at all? I think it's a bit extreme to expect people to bring their sandwiches to the food court.

actually since this is/was about appliances i was thinking more along the lines of our usual breakfast of pb&j toast which you need a toaster for....I think most "snack" in room and most resorts sell at least pizza to go but I think the more you eat in and especially cook in the room the more likely you are to create not so pleasant conditions for the next guests. however if you are treking down to the food court anyway to refill your mug, why not just eat there since it is set up with chairs, tables and at least most of the resorts we have been in there are only 2 chairs at the table..otherwise if you use the toasters there, you have to cart it all back to the room which seems like a waste to me but I don't really care what you do since I don't have to do it , knock yourself out but please don't leave any meatballs under the bed...as for ramen noodles everyday....they are high in fat and not really good for you but then again neither is crumb cake !

 

[FatCow]

Uhmmm, how ramen noodles is high in fat?

Here's the nutrition info:

Serving size: 88g
Energy: 350Cal
Protein: 12g
Fat: 2g
Carbohydrate: 59g
Monosodium Glutamate (MSG): 0g
(source: nutrition info from one of the ramen packet I have in my hand)

Can you please explain which part of this that's high fat? You'll get higher fat content from a glass of whole-milk!

Also by eating ramen (or any other carbohydrate) separate from animal protein is scientifically healthy because the mixture of carb and protein will create glucose which means higher calories than if you eat the same item but separately by a couple of hours. So it is actually not "not good for you"
(source: medical journal as read by an MD aquaintance of mine)

 

[jann1033]

Originally posted by FatCow
Uhmmm, how ramen noodles is high in fat?

Here's the nutrition info:


Can you please explain which part of this that's high fat? You'll get higher fat content from a glass of whole-milk!

way way way ot but.....
sorry I was going by Weight Watchers which calculates by cal, fat and fiber and thought it was the fat so maybe they are high in sugar as they are 7 points a serving, the same as a Macdonald's cheeseburger. as a point of reference normal noodles for 1 cup are 4 pts, same as 1 c whole milk, regular canned chicken noodle soup is about 2 a cup, canned chicken broth 0...plus are those numbers for 1 pack or 1 serving...I think the ones I used to get are 2 servings per pack so you had to double the numbers for one pack( haven't bought them for a while so don't remember the exact numbers) anyway I know they are higher in pts. than I thought worthwhile. but like I said if you want to *you* can eat them, I won't send the anti-ramen police but i'll eat the crumb cake( about 4- 6 pts a serving)! now that is worth while to me !

 

[FatCow]

Funny you mentioned Weight Watchers, but regardless how you want to slice and dice it, a cup of ramen is not the same, let alone worse, than a McDonalds cheeseburger.

I personally know many dieticians, MDs and surgeons who always laugh at Weight Watcher's diet.

I happen to consult with them the Weight Watcher's system because I needed to lose weight.

However, based on their recommendation of just separating carb and protein by 2 hours (or more) I have managed to lose 10 pounds in 2 months while eating the exact same amount of food and WITHOUT exercising whatsoever.

PS: I still eat bags of chips, chocolate, popcorn and other junk food such as chicken wings, KFC etc... I just separate carbs and protein... oh and no carbs 5 hours before bed time.

ps: if I recall correctly, they said that a cup of ramen have a higher calories than a regular burger (they didn't even mentioned cheeseburger) but much less fat content. This means with the same amount of food (say 80 grams), you will stay full and energized LONGER by eating ramen in contrast to eating a plain hamburger.

So hamburger is worse because your body needs to turn the fat into energy before it's being used. Plus mixing meat and bread will make sugar which then needs to be turned into energy before your body can use it. Whereas with ramen (or plain bread or plain rice) there is virtually no fat nor sugar so it's easier for your body to use up the energy. (or something along that line. I'm a doctor but not in medicine... the info is just based on what I remember from my friends who are MDs and dietician told me).

 

[jann1033]

well now this is way way way way ot but...

it's been a lot of years since I was in college butfrom what I do remember from my anat. and phys. classes ... all food is turned into "sugar" (glucose) before your body uses it for energy, what you don't use is converted to fat and stored to use as energy later as needed. ( which evidently many don't ever "need" since we have a steady food supply)

I'm shocked they would "laugh" at one of the few "diets" that are actually balanced diets and one of the very few I have ever heard recommended by most mainstream medical practicioners. ( not including some "medical" personnel/movie stars/ janitors/whoever with books or diet pills to sell) but to each his own.

any carbs are basically "sugars"( not necesarily sucrose, can be fructose, but still "sugars") which is why your body has less work to do to use them and uses them first and also why complex carbs. are usually lower in cals since it takes fewer calories( less energy) for your body to use them.(even sucrose isn't* that* high in calories but a lot of times baked goods, candy, the things we normally think of as high in sugar are also high in fat or like soda, easy to take in a lot of with out much nutrional value). actually from what I remember it is the"fat" that keeps you feeling full since it takes longer for your body to break down and why people on low fat diets can feel hungry if they don't eat a lot of fibrous carbs.

I didn't say it was "worse" to eat ramen than a burger btw, just don't see how a steady diet of them would be good for you just like a steady diet of any one food would normally limit you from taking in all the nutrients you need.

end of boring biology class back to applicances!

 

[Crazy4mandms]

But, anyway.................BACK TO THE ORIG TOPIC>>>>>>>>>>

I think what I've learned from this poll and subsequent postings is that if a person is NOT breaking any rules with Disney, and they would like to 'cook' in their room, that they would be both safe and considerate to others in following these guidelines (especially since so many don't like the idea):

1) leave the high 'fire' (skillets, deep fryers, etc) appliances and those that otherwise may be a fire hazard (like keeping a crockpot cooking all day) or those that would cause 'staining or smelly matter to linger' at home

2) Use KISS (Keep it Simple, Stupid!).......nothing that would make huge messes for both housekeeping to loathe and critters to enjoy (like bacon grease down the sink or raw meat cutting on the tabletop)

3) Be considerate with the type of food you choose......saurkraut, fish, cabbage and other really smelly foods (and even moderately smelly foods) should be a no-no.

4) Clean up after yourself!! Don't turn mousekeeping into busboys/girls....Throw your disposable bowls/utensils away, don't overflow the garbage and even have the garbage bag tied and ready for easy disposal by mousekeeping.

5) Anyone want to add anything (NICELY!!!!!!)??


Obviously many do not like the idea but equally obvious is that others like the option and will continue to do it (if they aren't breaking any rules, hey, no problem) so if everyone just uses common sense and good judgement we can go to WDW on a budget, avoid food allergy problems and stick to whatever diet we choose to follow!! AND HAVE AN AWESOME TIME AT THE HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH

 

[disneymom3]

... I eat Ramen at home too, there was just a poster that suggested eating it during an entire 10 day trip and it baffles me how that can be any fun.


Actually, my 7 year old would truly think she had gone to heaven and was amongst the angels if she could eat ramen noodles every day for 10 days. It would probably make her vacation!! I am serious. We are going on a Disney cruise and her dad made a comment that on the ship you could order "whatever you want" She immediately perked up and said, "Even noodle soup???"


Have to say I was really hoping this thread was in jest when I read the title. It would never occur to me to actually cook in my room. That's why we rent a villa offsite!

 

[jann1033]

Originally posted by Crazy4mandms
But, anyway.................BACK TO THE ORIG TOPIC>>>>>>>>>>

Iis that if a person is NOT breaking any rules with Disney,

anyone know what "disney" thinks about this ? I'm guessing nothing but coffee but who knows for sure?

and so are you saying prime rib with brussel sprouts, bacon topped twice baked potatoes and creme bruelle with burnt/carmelized sugar is over the top? while I'm at it do you think I can cram my large screen home theatre into my pop cent. room????

 

[FatCow]

Originally posted by jann1033 so are you saying prime rib with brussel sprouts, bacon topped twice baked potatoes and creme bruelle with burnt/caramelized sugar is over the top? while I'm at it do you think I can cram my large screen home theatre into my pop cent. room???? [/B]

I think everything you mentioned above are acceptable, except maybe the caramelized sugar.

 

[Crazy4mandms]

As posted before, Disney seems to have no 'official' answer to what is acceptable. I've called about a microwave and was told fine, others have asked about things and been told 'no'. So, my point is if you call disney and they say it is okay to have a microwave, a toaster, a coffeemaker, etc....then who else can tell you 'no'? Obviously some want this to continue as an all out debate...all i'm saying is from the consensus here...those who CHOOSE (and they are NOT breaking rules so they have the right) to make things in their room should be considerate of others. I would think that making sandwiches, ramen noodles, salads, along those lines would be fine because they wouldn't seem to cause a 'rif' with other guests. Although I doubt I would ever tug along my microwave I can't see where heating a can of soup or a frozen dinner or a few chicken nuggets would cause any grief to anyone else nor would a toasted bagel in a toaster. Again, common sense should tell people that a big slab of raw meat with a side of sauteed cabbage probably would not be considerate or safe to be cooking in a room. Everyone has an opinion and right now Disney lacks a definitive policy....My point in doing this poll was to help those who choose to bring appliances to CHOOSE AND USE wisely with other people in mind, that way everyone gets what they want.