Poll: Japanese First Date

How does Japanese sound?

  • Sounds great!

  • I've never had Japanese before, but I am willing to try anything once.

  • I don't know. I've never had Japanese, and I'm not sure how I'll like it. What do you think?

  • No, thanks. Maybe something else?

  • Other (state what)


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No...this date was in HIS town, and I drove there. Which I didn't mind, because there is much more to do in his area than my small town. And, I didn't have to worry about running into anyone I knew (the aforementioned friends and acquaintances gossiping and making a big deal about something)

Like luvsJack said, it isn't necessarily that I am busy. It was just the first date that popped in my head. "Hey, I am going to be down there this day. We should do something then." I wasn't trying to be rude or offensive or make it seem like I wasn't interested. After it was pointed out to me, I can definitely see how it could come across wrong.

Okay, so clearly this thread has reached its shelf life. I really don't see what "holes" there are in "the story" or inconsistencies exist. I appreciate those who genuinely tried to help me. If nothing else, it helped me know that Hibachi Chicken was the way to go.

What would ya'll like me to do? Forward you our texts? And then you'll have his phone number and you can call and interrogate him. Or, I can forward emails. Or maybe I should send you screenshots of my browsing history from where I was hunting for that particular restaurant's menu? Or, better yet, I wonder if the restaurant has security video. Maybe I can call them and see if they can stream it online. And, I will see if I can get my friend Carolyn on Facetime or Skype, and you guys can question her to see if my story corroborates. I mean, I really don't know what I can do to prove anything to you.

But, why on God's green Earth, would I be taking pictures of outfits to wear? You think I am really that motivated to add to some kind of ruse? No, I'm really, really not that bored to come up with this whole messed up thing. And if I was...trust me, the guy would have been the hottest guy I've ever seen in my life and I was crazy about him, and he would have brought me flowers and instead of cliche dinner and a movie, we would have done pizza and paintball. And there would have been no neck rubbing and he would have kissed me on the cheek, not on the lips. Believe me, if I were going to fabricate some first date, I would have come up with something I lot better than this.

Some people just want to see the bad in other people. If you are never going to believe anything I ever say, I guess it is time for me to get off the DIS. Is that what you want from me?

Just as an FYI since you are inexperienced.

Your date had a succession of progressively more intimate sexual advances. You allowed them all.

He started slowly and stroked your hand. - You didn't pull your hand away or give any signal that you didn't want so much familiarity.

He then moved on to putting his arm around your shoulders. You did not pull away or tell him to stop.

So, he moved onto stroking your neck. You did not pull away or let him know you were uncomfortable.

He moved on to kissing you goodnight. He even asked you and you did not answer.

PLEASE, for your own sake and safety. Let a guy know when you want him to stop.

If you do not want to be touched, as said over and over and over on this thread, you need to establish your boundaries from the outset. There is NOTHING wrong with having boundaries. But you do need to establish them so the guy knows what they are. Do not lead a guy on because of some romantic vision that they can read your mind.

I know you are adverse to listening to advice, even though you ask for it.

But please, if you continue to date, listen to the good people on this thread and stand up for yourself. You argued earlier in this thread that you shouldn't have to discuss boundaries so early. At 31, yes you do. For your own safety, yes you do.
 
Just as an FYI since you are inexperienced. Your date had a succession of progressively more intimate sexual advances. You allowed them all. He started slowly and stroked your hand. - You didn't pull your hand away or give any signal that you didn't want so much familiarity. He then moved on to putting his arm around your shoulders. You did not pull away or tell him to stop. So, he moved onto stroking your neck. You did not pull away or let him know you were uncomfortable. He moved on to kissing you goodnight. He even asked you and you did not answer. PLEASE, for your own sake and safety. Let a guy know when you want him to stop. If you do not want to be touched, as said over and over and over on this thread, you need to establish your boundaries from the outset. There is NOTHING wrong with having boundaries. But you do need to establish them so the guy knows what they are. Do not lead a guy on because of some romantic vision that they can read your mind. I know you are adverse to listening to advice, even though you ask for it. But please, if you continue to date, listen to the good people on this thread and stand up for yourself. You argued earlier in this thread that you shouldn't have to discuss boundaries so early. At 31, yes you do. For your own safety, yes you do.


This is wonderful advice.
 
You argued earlier in this thread that you shouldn't have to discuss boundaries so early. At 31, yes you do. For your own safety, yes you do.

I have to agree at 31, in most cases, SEX is going to be part of a normal healthy relationship. If this is NOT on the table you are better off bringing it up very early in the relationship. Why waste your time (and his) if you two are not on the same page about "waiting."
 
Just last month, her alter ego was thinking of meeting a guy she met on the internet who lived 11 hours away. Wonder what happened with that...

oh, and she was ready to let him see her just as she was and give him a BIG hug even though she has a phobia about hugs. Think of the mixed messages a hug and travelling to his house 11 hours away would have given off.

I'm out. This whole thing is nuts.
 

So Skatalite, it this really a quote of her post or have you been selectively editing again? While I appreciate your efforts to create a record of her lengthy post, you are not a trust worthy source.

Have I missed a situation in which Skatalite has been quoting people and then changing what was said to appear worse? For that matter, have I missed a situation in which ANYbody has been doing this? :confused3

The post written by the OP and the Skatalite's post with a quote of that read identical to me, so I find it very odd to make this accusation.
 
Have I missed a situation in which Skatalite has been quoting people and then changing what was said to appear worse? For that matter, have I missed a situation in which ANYbody has been doing this? :confused3

The post written by the OP and the Skatalite's post with a quote of that read identical to me, so I find it very odd to make this accusation.

Here you go
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3235290
 

Thanks. Wow, I DID miss something. That was a really weird thing to do. I cannot imagine thinking it was okay to change someone else's words in a quote of theirs. If he (she?) did not like the word in the quote he was welcome to post that in response, but to CHANGE it? Nutty and rude!

So, it looks like neither the OP nor Skatalite has a history of being very trustworthy.
 
Mackey, please take some advice from somebody who is similar and has been in your shoes.

I am not a "worldly" girl. When my husband and I were dating, we took it slow and didn't even kiss until a few dates in. We both waited for marriage, as does my sister in law. We are like minded in our values. We very rarely drink (I might a couple of times a month, he pretty much never does), and yes, I do uncomfortable watching or reading sexual stuff in movies and books. I am not attractive. I am short and fat and positively suck when it comes to finding flattering clothes and make up. I did not seem to inherit the cute girl gene so many seem to have.

I say that to show you that I understand where you are coming from. I have been married for three years, it is possible to find somebody with similar values as you,., no matter how awkward you are. But it did require going out of my comfort zone.

Before meeting my husband, I dated. Some guys I met online, some at work or school. In every case the guys I dated were church guys with similar values. One of the best relationships I had prior to my husband was a guy I met online while working for Disney who was also a CP. We were very up front from the beginning when it came to our expectations of physical contact. Although somewhat embarassing for me, we were able to have conversations in which we admitted sexual attraction and talked about our values and our boundaries.

My husband on the other hand is socially awkward. Before me, he had only dated one other person. I had to break my own rule and ask him out because he is very shy and not comfortable asking girls out. It was very much outside of my comfort zone, but I am glad I did! Like the previous relationship, we were up front with our values. Is he what I had pictured my husband would be like? Not at all. He is better.

Like you, I had had the "knight in shining armor" fantasy. I am a theatre nerd and a musician. I used to fantasize about a husband that I could dance with and sing duets with. That's not my husband at all. What I got instead was a somewhat shy, incredible guy who tells me I am beautiful even though I don't think I am. We can talk about anything no matter how dorky. We love each other because of our imperfections, not in spit of them.

You are going to need to be able to advocate for yourself. Yes, those conversations are awkward,but there is pretending to be all flustered and allowing yourself to be pushed into things you do not like will only hurt you in the long run. You are older. I understand when there are certain expressions you don't get. I've been there, done that. But the whole blushing and acting clueless is not going to work for a woman your age, even with the nice guys. Even the good guys like my husband want sex and physical affection. You will not survive a long term relationship if you plug your ears and sing every time the subject comes up. You need to be willing to have conversations where you admit your feelings and state what you are comfortable with. And stick to your guns.

Stop fantasizing about the perfect guy and finding excuses. You keep going after guys who are unattainable. You need to be very honest with yourself: Do you actually want a relationship, or just the idea of a relationship? Do you want to date because you want to get married and start a family one day, or because you think you have to? Honestly, it sounds like the latter based on your threads. There is nothing wrong with staying single, but if you're serious about actually being in a relationship, it means cutting out the clueless act and being willing to go somewhat outside of your comfort zone. You need to be realistic about the kind of guy a 30 something conservative woman is going to attract and be willing to date that kind of guy. You might just be pleasantly surprised.

I think this is THE best post with THE best advice on this thread.
:worship:
 
Thanks. Wow, I DID miss something. That was a really weird thing to do. I cannot imagine thinking it was okay to change someone else's words in a quote of theirs. If he (she?) did not like the word in the quote he was welcome to post that in response, but to CHANGE it? Nutty and rude!

So, it looks like neither the OP nor Skatalite has a history of being very trustworthy.

Sigh.

All I ask is you read the thread in which I edited the quote, so you can see why I edited the quote and what went wrong in the process. That's the only time it's ever happened, so I don't think it's really fair to say I've a history of being untrustworthy. Especially when compared to mmackeymouse. :confused 3 :crazy2:
 
Sigh.

All I ask is you read the thread in which I edited the quote, so you can see why I edited the quote and what went wrong in the process. That's the only time it's ever happened, so I don't think it's really fair to say I've a history of being untrustworthy. Especially when compared to mmackeymouse. :confused 3 :crazy2:

Now, skatalite, you know that you will forever be remembered for that one thread and that one post! It will be forever brought up by certain posters. :rotfl: One word will forever give some reason to doubt you.

Don't sweat it though. :goodvibes


OP you have gotten some good advice here from a couple of people. DO NOT listen or take to heart those that keep saying sex should be an expected part of a relationship at your age. You stick to your values and your beliefs. You just have to try to meet like minded individuals or one that respects your values. This guy just may be that person but you do need to make sure he understands those values. Heck, if its easier, tell him in text, just make sure he knows.

Is there a singles group through your or another church that might be a good place to meet someone?

As for the blushing, if you figure out a way to stop it please let me know. I am 50 and married and still blush at certain conversations or when given a compliment. The right guy will love that about you! He just needs to know that blushing doesn't mean you are being coy.
 
Sigh.

All I ask is you read the thread in which I edited the quote, so you can see why I edited the quote and what went wrong in the process. That's the only time it's ever happened, so I don't think it's really fair to say I've a history of being untrustworthy. Especially when compared to mmackeymouse. :confused 3 :crazy2:

I did read the thread. I agree with the many who said that even had you bolded the words you changed, that would NOT indicated you had changed them--people normally use bolding to highlight the specific item they are referring to within the qute (and often label it as "bolding mine" or say "in reference to the bolded" etc to make it clear THEY did that). It is not common practice on this board, or any board I have ever been on, to CHANGE people's words within a quote within making it abundantly clear you have done so (as in, crossing out the words that where there and writing new ones near it and saying "fixed that for you" etc.--and even that is not very common and usually done for fun and jokes.

You have been a part of the DIS for long enough and have enough posts that pleading ignorance isn't really going to convince me.

That said, I agree that a one time weird thing that does appear to have been a stupid mistake on your part does not make you nearly as untrustworthy as a poster who has clearly intentionally misled posters in the past and who has a history of creating long threads begging for advice and then taking none of it.
 
Just last month, her alter ego was thinking of meeting a guy she met on the internet who lived 11 hours away. Wonder what happened with that...

oh, and she was ready to let him see her just as she was and give him a BIG hug even though she has a phobia about hugs. Think of the mixed messages a hug and travelling to his house 11 hours away would have given off.

I'm out. This whole thing is nuts.

I had forgotten about that one!
 
Sigh.

All I ask is you read the thread in which I edited the quote, so you can see why I edited the quote and what went wrong in the process. That's the only time it's ever happened, so I don't think it's really fair to say I've a history of being untrustworthy. Especially when compared to mmackeymouse. :confused 3 :crazy2:

Look, I know you are getting a really hard time over it. The truth is there was no reason to do it. Honestly with the way people here quote and take segments of posts out on contexts, it's easy enough for someone's words to be twisted without them being changed along the way.

I know you say that was the only time but it's hard to not wonder if that was the only time or the only time you were caught doing it.
 
Look, I know you are getting a really hard time over it. The truth is there was no reason to do it. Honestly with the way people here quote and take segments of posts out on contexts, it's easy enough for someone's words to be twisted without them being changed along the way.

I know you say that was the only time but it's hard to not wonder if that was the only time or the only time you were caught doing it.

I guess all I can say to that is feel free to check every post I've ever used a quote in. It'd take awhile, so let me save you the time: What happened was an isolated incident. And what happened happened. Either people accept it or they won't. Nothing I can do about that.
 
Now, skatalite, you know that you will forever be remembered for that one thread and that one post! It will be forever brought up by certain posters. :rotfl: One word will forever give some reason to doubt you.

Don't sweat it though. :goodvibes


OP you have gotten some good advice here from a couple of people. DO NOT listen or take to heart those that keep saying sex should be an expected part of a relationship at your age. You stick to your values and your beliefs. You just have to try to meet like minded individuals or one that respects your values. This guy just may be that person but you do need to make sure he understands those values. Heck, if its easier, tell him in text, just make sure he knows.

Is there a singles group through your or another church that might be a good place to meet someone?

As for the blushing, if you figure out a way to stop it please let me know. I am 50 and married and still blush at certain conversations or when given a compliment. The right guy will love that about you! He just needs to know that blushing doesn't mean you are being coy.

Can I ask WHO said that, because I really have not seen it, but I certainly do miss things from time to time. :confused3

All I have seen is many people saying it would not be uncommon or wrong for adults her age to think sex is in the cards much sooner than the OP thinks, which means she needs to be careful about the signals she is sending and upfront about her boundaries with dates.
 
This thread has definitely and thoroughly convinced me that I stink at keeping very many posters straight. I have to say, knowing OP has at least two identities here really makes me say hmmmmm.
 
Can I ask WHO said that, because I really have not seen it, but I certainly do miss things from time to time. :confused3

All I have seen is many people saying it would not be uncommon or wrong for adults her age to think sex is in the cards much sooner than the OP thinks, which means she needs to be careful about the signals she is sending and upfront about her boundaries with dates.

Several have said that for a person her age, sex is normally an expected part of a relationship. My meaning to her is to not feel that she is doing anything wrong by not wanting that expectation. Regardless of how anyone meant what they said, she doesn't need to take it that way and that is how a few came across.

She just needs to get it out in the open that it isn't going to be as soon as he may expect or at all if they are not married (I don't know what her stand is on that, haven't read enough of her posts in other threads to know)
 
DO NOT listen or take to heart those that keep saying sex should be an expected part of a relationship at your age. You stick to your values and your beliefs.
Several have said that for a person her age, sex is normally an expected part of a relationship.
Are you saying that SEX is not an expected part of a normal healthy adult relationship? Because I think you are wrong in that.

Now, that does not mean, the OP needs to have sex or feel pressured to have sex. But she should let her dates know (at an appropriate time) that this is not something she is interested in, until much later.
 
Are you saying that SEX is not an expected part of a normal healthy adult relationship? Because I think you are wrong in that.

Now, that does not mean, the OP needs to have sex or feel pressured to have sex. But she should let her dates know (at an appropriate time) that this is not something she is interested in, until much later.

No. I am saying that if she wants to wait until she is married or until she is sure of the relationship then that is also normal and part of a healthy adult relationship and she should not be made to feel otherwise.
 
No. I am saying that if she wants to wait until she is married or until she is sure of the relationship then that is also normal and part of a healthy adult relationship and she should not be made to feel otherwise.

NO one has said otherwise. Not not single person that I can find.

What many HAVE said, and i think it is very important for the OP to understand so that she can keep things in a place she is comfortable is that OP's views on and experience with sex are very uncommon for her age and she needs to be VERY aware of that and be proactive in making sure she communicates clearly about what she wants so as not to find herself in an uncomfortable situation or blame the other person for being a "bad" person if they go into things assuming the relationship will move faster than she wants and she does not tell them otherwise or say not to do things she does not like.

The date, as she described it, resulted in her being very uncomfortable with a number of physical things, but not ever telling the man that, so he had no way to know he should stop (let's face it, based on OPs descriptions of flirting--I doubt she sends off the right body mean she should change her values. It DOES mean she should make them clear to dates.
 


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