Points Chart for Member Getaways

[tx2tn]

I have found the points chart for staying at a DVC resort, but have not found one for all of the other places that a DVC member can stay.

The ability to do this is what will probably convince my wife to buy into DVC, but I need a points chart to show her.

Thanks!

 

[dianeschlicht]

Are you talking about Interval International exchanges, Disney hotel exchanges, or Concierge Collection exchanges?

 

[dianeschlicht]

If you mean the World Passport exchanges, they range from a low of 124 points for a 1 bedroom in low season, to a high of 270 points for a 2 bedroom in high season. These are full week exchanges.

 

[tx2tn]

Well, In the DVD that DVC sent me, it states that as a member you could use you points in NYC or Chicago or London or Paris........etc. I was just wondering if there was a chart that showed what some of these vacations would cost (points wise) and if there is a list of these resorts.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Well, In the DVD that DVC sent me, it states that as a member you could use you points in NYC or Chicago or London or Paris........etc. I was just wondering if there was a chart that showed what some of these vacations would cost (points wise) and if there is a list of these resorts.

Yes, and the point cost range is what I posted above. That is called the World Passport collection. These are exchanges to other timeshares at these locations, and are subject to the exchange rules set forth in Interval International exchange system. DVC is a good trader, but they only trade with specific II resorts. The list changes frequently, but all are top end timeshares across the country and globe. It isn't like you can just call and reserve one at the drop of a hat. It has to be researched by the trading company and they will try to match your request. If you are very flexible with either location or time of travel, it works best. For example: when we traded a week of DVC for Hawaii, we started our search by requesting ANY island any time between 1/1 and 6/1. two years out. We got our match and accepted it after just one week, but it gave us plenty of time to do a search for another trade from another timeshare and then specify a week either side of the one we got first.

 

[sigillaria]

This gives all

CLICK HERE

If you get a login page-login with your user name and password, then click view point charts in box on right. (It may open to the point charts.)
Gives 2006 & 2007

 

[tx2tn]

Hey thanks for the link but it states that you must be a DVC club member with a club ID in order to view this stuff and I am just trying to see if I want to become a member.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Does THIS LINK work?

 

[dianeschlicht]

The above link shows the areas of the world and resorts covered by DVC exchanges and the points are:
Low season:
1 bedroom 124 2 bedroom 207

mid season:
1 bedroom 144 2 bedroom 252

Hight season:
1 bedroom 160 2 bedroom 270

 

[tx2tn]

Excellent and YES the link does work!

 

[spiceycat]

this is just the II part - not the cruises or concierge collection.

 

[CarolMN]

I posted links to the points charts for the Conceirge/Adventurer/World Passport Collections in this thread:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1089453

I'm sure you will find that all of the links in that thread work. The charts are from the DVC Members' website.

Best wishes -

 

[Dean]

Buying DVC to use for those other choices is not a good choice, buy less points just for DVC and look for other ways for the additional options.

 

[tx2tn]

Are you saying that using your DVC points to go to one of these Member getaways is not a good idea? I thought that was a selling point....lots of options etc. Now I am confused.

 

[Dean]

Are you saying that using your DVC points to go to one of these Member getaways is not a good idea? I thought that was a selling point....lots of options etc. Now I am confused.

That is my opinion and that of others. There are many who bought points then don't care what the "cost" is after that if they are using their points. Foolish for many but their choice. NONE of the trade options are guaranteed and few are even break even compared to cash options. In almost every case it would be cheaper to buy less points and look to other options for the trade options. Maybe cash for DC, DCL, CC and possibly other timeshare for the Interval exchange options. IMO, it depends on how one would use it. But anyone asking the question up front is likely to want to use the other options enough to eat away at any savings DVC would generate and in some cases, make buying in general a poor choice. I recently issued a challenge to the group to show me even one guaranteed trade options that would return even close to $10 per point. So far no takers and I doubt there will be. Even if one removed the guaranteed restriction, there are few situations where a return of $10 per point is feasible unless one has simply missed out on previously available discounts such as one might get if reserving DCL after the early booking discounts were gone.

Plus there are many risks and limitations of using points that even if it were a break even compared to cash, it is not a reasonable risk in my book. Remember that many who post they used points for other options and were satisfied are already owners. You have the unique opportunity to decide upfront how best to proceed. Must like the difference in deciding to buy a stock vs hold or sell one you already own. Of course the choice is yours but now you know "the other half of the story".

 

[dianeschlicht]

For the most part, I agree with what Dean said. I do think that if you are wanting a "special" place to go once, it's a great way to proceed, but I do NOT think it is worth it for many places. One reason is that you can usually find some pretty spectacularly priced "deals" out there for most destinations.

Use Disney for Disney and get another timeshare for trading that has lower maintenance costs. We have a friend who owns only 151 DVC points and uses them every other year. She uses a very inexpensive Vermont timeshare to do numerous exchanges all across the country. She owns another "gold crown" property that has cheaper dues than DVC, and she uses that mostly to stay there, but also uses it for an occational upper level exchange.

Also, bear in mind that the exchange process is not for the faint of heart. It can be a long drawn out frustrating affair at best sometimes.

 

[CPTJAK]

I think (based on other discussion sites like tug and DIS) that if you are buying what a lot of people consider an upper tier timeshare (Westin Maui/Marriott Maui,Aruba Atlantis, DVC, St John etc..) than for equal value you would need to trade into another upper tier timeshare which based on TUG is not all that easy to do. Correct?

 

[Dean]

I think (based on other discussion sites like tug and DIS) that if you are buying what a lot of people consider an upper tier timeshare (Westin Maui/Marriott Maui,Aruba Atlantis, DVC, St John etc..) than for equal value you would need to trade into another upper tier timeshare which based on TUG is not all that easy to do. Correct?

DVC is certainly not the only timeshare with limitations on it's trading value. Most any high value (note I didn't say high priced) timeshare will be difficult to trade for reasonable value. This is true for many reasons. First there are only a small percentage of places and times of the year that are of equal value to other top resorts/weeks. Then there is the built in loss of options when you get an exchange. Say you own an ocean front unit at Marriott's Grande Ocean for Platinum season and trade back in to the same resort for a different season. You got a week and unit that are inherently worth less, you paid a fee to do so, and you get a far worse unit, likely first floor with no view. And just the nature of he costs and yearly fees for higher level resorts will shift the curve away from getting equal value. Plus those who own top weeks at top resorts are far less likely to give them up. Most timeshare trading is down between low value weeks for each other and between mid value weeks for each other (obviously it's more complicated when you get down to it). And since many of those top resorts in II are in a system such as Marriott or Hyatt, you are in line behind owners of that system as a rule.

IMO, the only reasonable trading using DVC is those who shoot for the moon or the lose or use situation. Say shoot for a high season week at one of the relatively few resorts/areas that are above DVC in the food chain. Places like the Maui Marriott or Four Seasons CA during high demand times. And that again is the rub. The chances of getting the great values are slim. But if you know how to play the game, you can improve your chances considerably. For the most part it seems DVC members are lazy exchangers. They don't want to research the resorts and don't want to learn the ins and out of the systems involved. They want to call and have what they want sitting there waiting on them and have DVC tell them what the best choices are. They don't want to put in an ongoing request a full year or more out and heaven forbid they have to pay a maybe non refundable $75 exchange fee.

 

[CPTJAK]

I have friends that own Westin Kannapali for 4 years and have not stayed there once. They don't always plan far enough in advance to get their own resort during the time they want??? They typically exchange for hotel points and stay at hotels. Although they have done Atlantis and are going to isla meralas (cancun area) AVALON XMAS. Seems like DVC is no different than other upper level resorts in that if you buy there your best value is probably staying at that timeshare. I have also read other posts where people waited a year and could not get the resorts/time they want or get it last minute which for me would be somewhat stressful so I would say if you own Disney stay at Disney and the years you go elsewhere rent at those locations.

 

[Dean]

I have friends that own Westin Kannapali for 4 years and have not stayed there once. They don't always plan far enough in advance to get their own resort during the time they want??? They typically exchange for hotel points and stay at hotels. Although they have done Atlantis and are going to isla meralas (cancun area) AVALON XMAS. Seems like DVC is no different than other upper level resorts in that if you buy there your best value is probably staying at that timeshare. I have also read other posts where people waited a year and could not get the resorts/time they want or get it last minute which for me would be somewhat stressful so I would say if you own Disney stay at Disney and the years you go elsewhere rent at those locations.

Exactly. And it also emphasizes the fact that people who are not planners likely shouldn't own timeshare, PERIOD.