Please, if you smoke

I get your beef...except...Pop has elevators.:confused3

Yeah, I addressed that a few posts back. Two elevators in the middle of a building are not much use during free dining(it was crazy busy), especially when your room is at the very end of a building. First you have to walk to the middle, then wait for the elevator, then ride it up and then walk all the way back to your room. Some of the rooms are quite aways from the elevator.

The point is that the reason I asked for a first floor room was because I didn't want to deal with the stairs OR the elevator.
 
I have this parent/father who smokes in his car with his 6yo son while they wait for the bus. Then he lights a new one and walks the boy to the bus so when I open the bus door, the smoke comes in. The child reeks of smoke and has a chronic cough. I've asked him NOT to smoke at the bus stop but he continues. The poor child is 6. I maybe can understand how you could be in denial about people you don't know(the next occupants of the hotel room) but HOW does one rationalize poisoning their own child?
 
True. I was just thinking about the fact that so often on thread about smoke people will complain about things like perfume. I think banning people from wearing perfume in public would really be over the top. It would be like banning people who smell like smoke from going out in public. But actively producing clouds of something - whether that's smoke or a mist of perfume - does affect those around you, and so I could see banning that sort of behavior. You're right, though, that the lack of long-term effects from the perfume might be the main difference between that and the smoke. I hadn't thought about that and that might be a good reason that such bans wouldn't ever happen.

If only all bad smelling things (and people!) could be banned. If we banned overdosing on perfume, people who smell like smoke, and even people who have body odor :eek: life would be better.
 
Everytime my DS15 goes to his dad's house, I have to wash everything he took, whether he wore it or not. His dad lives with his grandparents and they both smoke like chimneys. I just dump his whole duffel bag AND the bag in the washer. I feel for his baby half-sister who is breathing in all that smoke. :guilty: Even if they don't smoke around her, the chemicals are left on whatever is nearby, such as the carpet and furniture and that baby's face is all over it. Yuck!

I totally sympathize with you. I had to throw out ALL of my oldest son's baby clothes after i lent them to a friend in need. I had no idea that she would smoke in the house, with her baby :scared1: When she gave the clothes back the smell just about made me puke. I tried washing everything, but NOTHING would get that smell out. Even my dryer started smelling like cigarettes.:headache:

I never again loaned anything to anyone unless I was prepared to part with the stuff permanently.
 

I totally agree with you except for that last sentence which is kind of rude. You're right, I don't think smokers smell it as strongly as non-smokers. I also know a lot of smokers who love the outdoors and fresh air. I think it's possible to get a point across without making condescending blanket judgments about a group of people.[/QUOTE]

Allow me to qualify my statement:

I have never smoked, but I'm old enough to have grown up and spent many years, decades, in an environment where just about everyone smoked and thought nothing of it. Most people literally did not know what a clean, fresh, non-smoking environment was like. Oddly enough, the smell of stale smoke seemed "normal" just about everywhere and even in the remote outdoors there would be someone with you who was smoking. So, even non-smokers often did not have truly fresh air to appreciate. As fewer people smoked and some placed became smoke-free, there was a whole new awareness of what fresh air really was. In that respect, many who still smoke have not discovered the difference. A non-smoker in a fresh air environment can smell someone smoking a hundred feet away. I suspect a smoker may not notice.
 
I totally agree with you except for that last sentence which is kind of rude. You're right, I don't think smokers smell it as strongly as non-smokers. I also know a lot of smokers who love the outdoors and fresh air. I think it's possible to get a point across without making condescending blanket judgments about a group of people.

Allow me to qualify my statement:

I have never smoked, but I'm old enough to have grown up and spent many years, decades, in an environment where just about everyone smoked and thought nothing of it. Most people literally did not know what a clean, fresh, non-smoking environment was like. Oddly enough, the smell of stale smoke seemed "normal" just about everywhere and even in the remote outdoors there would be someone with you who was smoking. So, even non-smokers often did not have truly fresh air to appreciate. As fewer people smoked and some placed became smoke-free, there was a whole new awareness of what fresh air really was. In that respect, many who still smoke have not discovered the difference. A non-smoker in a fresh air environment can smell someone smoking a hundred feet away. I suspect a smoker may not notice.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, I see what you are saying now. :thumbsup2 :)

ETA: Not sure what happened with the quotations.
 
I have never smoked, but I'm old enough to have grown up and spent many years, decades, in an environment where just about everyone smoked and thought nothing of it. Most people literally did not know what a clean, fresh, non-smoking environment was like. Oddly enough, the smell of stale smoke seemed "normal" just about everywhere and even in the remote outdoors there would be someone with you who was smoking. So, even non-smokers often did not have truly fresh air to appreciate. As fewer people smoked and some placed became smoke-free, there was a whole new awareness of what fresh air really was. In that respect, many who still smoke have not discovered the difference. A non-smoker in a fresh air environment can smell someone smoking a hundred feet away. I suspect a smoker may not notice.

My husband totally gets the full understanding of what was said here. He grew up with chain smokers that never cracked a window in the house nor in the car. He began smoking at age 13, in the house and his parents did not care. So, here you have 3 heavy smokers in a house about 1,000sq ft. I don't smoke. You see where this is going. ;)

He agreed to do his smoking outside, but in reality, the smoke just follows him when he walks inside. It even follows him up the stairs and down the hall to the bedroom for that last nightly smoke. My nickname for him was Pigpen from Charlie Brown, because he always had a cloud around him.

For the most part, the air in the house was fresh, but his clothes smelled just awful. His smoking hand was nasty too and when he would hold my hand, the smell was transfered. When he would go to his parents house, he claimed he could not smell anything wrong. It was just normal air to him. When he would come back home, I would wash his clothes 3 cycles to remove the smell and the suitcase, used only for those visits, would go in the garage wrapped in a plastic garbage bag. He never noticed a problem. So, right there proves just because a smoker lives in a house that has fresh smoke free air, they don't notice a difference as long as they continue smoking.

My husband would sit in amazement that I could smell smoke from a mile away. We could sit at a redlight with the windows rolled up and I would say "The car ahead has a smoker, because smoke is coming through the vent." Sure enough, when we pull up to pass, there was a smoker in that car. Perfumes always bothered me. He never noticed the strength. He really thought I was crazy when I said a strong odor of smoke or perfume gave me a headache.

Well, he stopped smoking a year ago. 30 years of smoking. He never realized how bad he smelled until a few months after stopping, we ran into an old friend in the store. I kept moving and my husband came quickly behind me. he said "That guy reeked and I had to get away so I could breathe". Then he said "Did I smell like THAT:guilty:? I said Yes. He now smells the smoke and the strong perfumes. Something he never did before. He is sensitive to sgtrong smelling fabric softener on the laundry. He now sees the difference. It was not something he could see by just living in a smoke free house. He had to be smoke free himself.
 
I agree.. No one should smoke in an area that is specifically designated as "non-smoking"..
 
I am a smoker and it makes me angry when I see people walking around the parks or anywhere for that matter smoking. I try very hard to respect non smokers and I never smoke where I'm not supposed to. If I'm around non smokers I'll see which way the smoke is going and move to the other side of them so it won't blow in their faces.

I was at a smoking area outside DHS and noticed people coming in from the busses, so I moved to another smoking area away from them. I had a lady just literally cuss me out for smoking in the area I moved to and I told her I was where I was supposed to be and wasn't moving.
 
Ok, this is slightly OT but relevant. I was a smoker for 23 years, even smoked when my father was diagnosed with lung cancer at 58. He smoked a cigarette on the way to the hospital to have a lobe of his lung removed. He was such an addict he repeatedly told me not to quit just because he had cancer.

He himself did quit smoking and survived for six more years. Sadly these were the worst years of our lives. He suffered horribly...he said it was like drowning because he couldn't breathe. He was skeletal at the end and death was a relief for him and our family.

Today I can't stand the smell of cigarettes...At the BCV's last year an older women would be out on the balcony with her cig every morning and every night when we returned from the parks. On our last morning I had had it and shouted at her about breaking the rules...my poor husband was mortified!

If I had to smell leftover smoke in a room...well that's too much. I would insist on being moved. No cleaning, no matter how thorough, will rid that smell in one day.

I get that smokers have rights (heard it all the time from my Dad), but his death showed me non smokers have rights too; our right to a healthy environmrnt supercedes their right to smoke.
 
Today I can't stand the smell of cigarettes...At the BCV's last year an older women would be out on the balcony with her cig every morning and every night when we returned from the parks. On our last morning I had had it and shouted at her about breaking the rules...my poor husband was mortified!
If that happens again, don't yell. Don't say a word. Go back inside, call the hotel operator. Complain. Invite hotel officials to YOUR room to experience the violation themselves (after all, if they simply knock on the smoker's door, the smoker will have extinquished the cigarette and, having not smoked IN the room, there won't be the proof one might encounter in a lower-amenity property).
 





Receive up to $1,000 in Onboard Credit and a Gift Basket!
That’s right — when you book your Disney Cruise with Dreams Unlimited Travel, you’ll receive incredible shipboard credits to spend during your vacation!
CLICK HERE






DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest DIS Tiktok DIS Twitter DIS Bluesky

Back
Top Bottom