Please, if you smoke

[kaytieeldr]

We lost our beautiful lake view and my mom had to deal with those stinking stairs every day

Oh. No elevator?

 

[torinsmom]

Oh. No elevator?

There was one, but it was in the middle, and we were on an end. We used it a few times, but the wait was terrible(went during free dining) Point is that we wanted ground floor for a reason and it sucked to have to give it up because of someone else's inconsiderate behavior. If I'd wanted a second floor room by the pool, I wouldn't have noted my preference on my reservation, called three times to make sure it was there, and then called when we were 6 hours away to make last minute sure.

 

[minkydog]

Iam very sensitive to smoke, too, and if there has EVER been a cigarette in there, I'll know it. I had to go to a funeral a few years ago and got a hotel room with my mother and brother. DBro is a heavy smoker, but he never smokes around us. He takes it outside. However, the stench from his clothes was overpowering. Everything and everyone in that room reeked of cigarette smoke.It even got into my CPAP machine--and that blows air DIRECTLY into my lungs. We stayed for 2 days and I was embarrassed every time we had to be with other family members. I just felt like I stunk the whole weekend.

 

[GeorgeG]

I've seen a lot of courteous and rule-abiding smokers, but once in awhile somebody will break the rules for a variety of reasons (stupidity, accidently, arrogance, etc.). Mine own theory is that smokers simply don't smell what non-smokers do and think cracking a window or turning on an exhaust fan will get rid of any hint they were ever smoking in the room. Heck, they don't have a clue how bad their clothes smell (they probably think they don't smell at all). They also don't have a lot of appreciation for fresh air.

 

[Mickey's Minion]

and you knowingly reserve a non-smoking room, please do not smoke in it. I was in Orlando this weekend (non Disney hotel but happened to me at POR before also). Walked into room, and it stunk. Bellman sent up someone with something to remove smoke. We had dinner reservations so had to leave. Came back and it smelled a bit better. My dd went into the bathroom and had a headache from the smell in there. It was almost midnight by that time so we toughed it out. Next day while we were at the parks they changed out all of the bedding and the shower curtain (You could smell it on there). Also I think they must have used the toilet as an ashtray. When we went to the bathroom you could actually smell it coming off the seat....I know gross, but it was gross to me also. It did get a bit better and I know we could have changed rooms, but it was so late. I would like to also say our housekeeper was wonderful, but only so much she could do. Next time I will move immediately instead, but we were late for our dinner at TRex.

I am not infringing on your right to smoke. Go for it! I've had people say to me "well I rarely get caught and if I do then I pay the $200 fee so it is my right". No you are infringing on my right to reserve a smoke free room and expect it to be that way without having to take my time and energy to change rooms several times. That $200 doesn't do crap for me. TY. Vent over.

A couple years ago, I had requested a first floor, lakeside, non-smoking room at Pop. We requested 1st floor b/c my mom has a bad knee. We got there at 1am, after driving 10 hours. Those rooms are far away from the parking lot. We get all out luggage there, open the door and WHAM, the smell hits us! So I trek way back to the front desk and ask for another room. They had no more 1st floor rooms, so we had to either take the stinky room or take a second floor room away from the lake. We chose to move, because I get physically ill around smoke. So, thanks to the kind soul who decided to smoke in a non-smoking room, when at that time there WERE smoking rooms at Pop. We lost our beautiful lake view and my mom had to deal with those stinking stairs every day.

While the smoker is at fault, the hotel also has to take partial blame.

Every room needs to be cleared by housekeeping before it is put back in the system. If the smoke stench is that bad, housekeeping should have alerted management and de-stenching should have taken place before a customer was put into it.

But Disney is not unlike any other hotel chain in that they put guests in the room, hoping they will "gut it out", if they tell them there are no other rooms (or a room not as appealing) available.

There is no reason a room that has been smoked in should be returned to inventory before it has been cleaned.

 

[Tink888]

I wish!! To me, public smoking should just be banned. I know it's never gonna happen since smokers seem to think they have the "right" to smoke in front of people like me who have allergies to the smoke. Well, I have more of a "right" not to breathe it and get sick. Go stink up your own home, not a public place where non-smokers go too! For me and my brother, one breath in the presence of a smoker sets us on a terrible allergy attack. It's unfair.

Nicest place I've ever visited was Greenville, SC. Why? No public smoking!!! The town was so much cleaner and nicer all thanks to not having that nasty little habit be allowed to lurk. Shame the whole country can't adopt the same mindset...

But if they're following the rules and aren't smoking in a no-smoking area, they do have that right. It would be great if we could ban things for everyone that individually bothered us, perfume in public places would be on my list as it makes me sick, but we can't.

I don't blame you for wanting a truly smoke-free room. Same as when I travel I want a room I can smoke in. These days they are hard to find. So be it.

I am a smoker who follows the rules. I go to the smoking areas in the parks. Please don't walk nearby, coughing and hacking. Look at the map, as we have to, to be sure to avoid the smoking areas. If that means you have to walk a little further, consider that we also have to go out our way to get to a smoking area.

The only time I screwed up was the first summer DW resorts went smoke free. Without even thinking, one afternoon during our break, I, purely by habit, lit up. As I took my first, I said to myself "oh blankety-blank!" and ran for the door before I exhaled. Fortunately, we were on the ground floor and near a smoking area.

I have never walked around the parks, Disney or otherwise, smoking where it has been banned. I have never smoked in a non-smoking section of a restaurant.

Now, let me vent about my peanut allergy, and my right to live without the risk of death due to "you" (no one specific) wanting your cheap lunch of pb&j or quick
snack on an airplane.

As a smoker, I feel the same as you do. Only it is not peanuts for me it is certain perfumes that will throw me into a horrible, horrible sinus headache. I am talking perfume that is so heavy, you can smell 5 minutes before the person makes an appearance.

I have the same problem with perfume.

I've seen a lot of courteous and rule-abiding smokers, but once in awhile somebody will break the rules for a variety of reasons (stupidity, accidently, arrogance, etc.). Mine own theory is that smokers simply don't smell what non-smokers do and think cracking a window or turning on an exhaust fan will get rid of any hint they were ever smoking in the room. Heck, they don't have a clue how bad their clothes smell (they probably think they don't smell at all). They also don't have a lot of appreciation for fresh air.

I totally agree with you except for that last sentence which is kind of rude. You're right, I don't think smokers smell it as strongly as non-smokers. I also know a lot of smokers who love the outdoors and fresh air. I think it's possible to get a point across without making condescending blanket judgments about a group of people.

 

[Mickey's Minion]

I wish!! To me, public smoking should just be banned. I know it's never gonna happen since smokers seem to think they have the "right" to smoke in front of people like me who have allergies to the smoke. Well, I have more of a "right" not to breathe it and get sick. Go stink up your own home, not a public place where non-smokers go too! For me and my brother, one breath in the presence of a smoker sets us on a terrible allergy attack. It's unfair.

Nicest place I've ever visited was Greenville, SC. Why? No public smoking!!! The town was so much cleaner and nicer all thanks to not having that nasty little habit be allowed to lurk. Shame the whole country can't adopt the same mindset...

It is banned in all public places in my neck of the woods. No restaurants, bars, public buildings, parks, even in outdoor stadiums it is banned. And believe me, people will report you if they see you light up.

I should also add that most of the time, restaurants and bars do not even have a smoking area. The rules for having a smoking area are so expensive (completely sealed room with expensive air filtration systems) that most do not bother putting one in. In our stadiums, you have to leave your seat and go out to specific areas far away on the concourse before you can find a place to smoke.

Although I love it, I do see it as a real pain for those that do smoke.

 

[KellyNY]

I cannot speak for all off site resorts, I only stayed at Raddisson Resort Parkway 3 1/2 stars, pretty good resort but...I smoke and when I checked in, I asked for smoking room, they gave me ash tray, that was all that separated smoking from non smoking room. I was surprized.

 

[Scurvy]

We've had that happen before. There wasn't necessarily someone smoking in that room, though. On one of our trips last year we stayed at Pop. The first few of days of our stay were fine. Then one night, sometime around midnight, we started smelling cigarette smoke. I walked outside because I figured someone was smoking just outside our door and I was going to ask them to move further away but no one was there. The smell kept getting stronger and when I opened our bathroom door I realized that the smell was coming from the vent in there. We called the desk and they finally sent up maintenance. They said that someone in another room must be smoking in their bathroom and it was traveling through the ventilation system somehow and ending up in our room. They said they knew it was coming from one of three other rooms (because of the way the hotel is constructed) but they obviously couldn't go knock on all the doors to find out who it was, so there really wasn't anything they could do about it.

The hotel was full, so the front desk said they couldn't move us. Smoke gives me migraines, though, so I wasn't willing to stay there with that smell seeping into the room. Finally they decided to have maintenance try taping heavy plastic over the vent. That actually worked, fortunately. By then it was close to 3:00 in the morning and I was tired and had a headache. If I could have found the person who was smoking I think I would have taken their cigarette and shoved it up their nose!

I hate smoke but I've known plenty of considerate smokers. It's awful when inconsiderate people who think the rules don't apply to them also happen to be smokers. I hate people like that. I don't care if you smoke or not, just please respect the rules about smoking wherever you happen to be.

 

[Scurvy]

It would be great if we could ban things for everyone that individually bothered us, perfume in public places would be on my list as it makes me sick, but we can't.

I know this is sort of off topic, but I don't really see why things like perfume couldn't be banned. Not wearing perfume, of course - after all, we don't prohibit smokers from smelling like smoke, we just prohibit them from producing smoke in public. Spraying perfume is sort of comparable to smoking, though, and there are lots of people who are bothered by perfume. It would be interesting to see if someone could successfully argue that spraying chemicals (like perfume or sunscreen) is similar enough to smoking that those actions ought to also be banned in public places.

 

[SOnotLayuh]

We've had a lot of trouble with hotels in places other than WDW with "non-smoking rooms" that smell like a smoker's lungs.

 

[Fire14]

Ugh...we bought a used car that had been the loaner car for a dealership. Never again! It took 2.5 years for the smell to fade, and I fully expect that it's going to come back once the heat shows up in the summer. When the steering wheel gets hot from the sun, the smell comes out, and my hands will smell like cigarettes. It is SO gross.

DH was in charge of buying it, and he is not as sensitive as I am. My BIL works at the dealership and could smell it, so put it through their ozone machine a few times, and did some extra cleaning...it worked, for about a week...then whammo, smoke. So don't ever buy a car like that, where you have no idea about the previous use, if you're sensitive.

I so agree, I refused to even test drive a car because of this, The minute they opened back hatch I smelled it and said this ones out. Of course the dealership was we can get the smell out. I was like nope not happening.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

A couple years ago, I had requested a first floor, lakeside, non-smoking room at Pop. We requested 1st floor b/c my mom has a bad knee. We got there at 1am, after driving 10 hours. Those rooms are far away from the parking lot. We get all out luggage there, open the door and WHAM, the smell hits us! So I trek way back to the front desk and ask for another room. They had no more 1st floor rooms, so we had to either take the stinky room or take a second floor room away from the lake. We chose to move, because I get physically ill around smoke. So, thanks to the kind soul who decided to smoke in a non-smoking room, when at that time there WERE smoking rooms at Pop. We lost our beautiful lake view and my mom had to deal with those stinking stairs every day.

I get your beef...except...Pop has elevators.

 

[WDWMom]

A little OT but Michigan is going smoke free as of May 1.

Ds15 has asthma and smoke bothers him. I am also very sensitive and can smell it a mile away. So far we have been lucky to never be in a room that has been smoked in, but have gotten extra pillows from housekeeping that stunk horribly.

 

[chisnpeke]

I know this is sort of off topic, but I don't really see why things like perfume couldn't be banned. Not wearing perfume, of course - after all, we don't prohibit smokers from smelling like smoke, we just prohibit them from producing smoke in public. Spraying perfume is sort of comparable to smoking, though, and there are lots of people who are bothered by perfume. It would be interesting to see if someone could successfully argue that spraying chemicals (like perfume or sunscreen) is similar enough to smoking that those actions ought to also be banned in public places.

Although I see what you are saying, smoking causes cancer. Scented things may bother people but do not cause cancer.

 

[sacall]

A little OT but Michigan is going smoke free as of May 1.

I too can not wait until Michigan goes smoke free

My daughter has CF and I have asthma and there have been many places we have left because it they smelled so bad from smoke.

Stacy

 

[Scurvy]

Although I see what you are saying, smoking causes cancer. Scented things may bother people but do not cause cancer.

True. I was just thinking about the fact that so often on thread about smoke people will complain about things like perfume. I think banning people from wearing perfume in public would really be over the top. It would be like banning people who smell like smoke from going out in public. But actively producing clouds of something - whether that's smoke or a mist of perfume - does affect those around you, and so I could see banning that sort of behavior. You're right, though, that the lack of long-term effects from the perfume might be the main difference between that and the smoke. I hadn't thought about that and that might be a good reason that such bans wouldn't ever happen.

 

[wvjules]

and you knowingly reserve a non-smoking room, please do not smoke in it. I was in Orlando this weekend (non Disney hotel but happened to me at POR before also). Walked into room, and it stunk. Bellman sent up someone with something to remove smoke. We had dinner reservations so had to leave. Came back and it smelled a bit better. My dd went into the bathroom and had a headache from the smell in there. It was almost midnight by that time so we toughed it out. Next day while we were at the parks they changed out all of the bedding and the shower curtain (You could smell it on there). Also I think they must have used the toilet as an ashtray. When we went to the bathroom you could actually smell it coming off the seat....I know gross, but it was gross to me also. It did get a bit better and I know we could have changed rooms, but it was so late. I would like to also say our housekeeper was wonderful, but only so much she could do. Next time I will move immediately instead, but we were late for our dinner at TRex.

I am not infringing on your right to smoke. Go for it! I've had people say to me "well I rarely get caught and if I do then I pay the $200 fee so it is my right". No you are infringing on my right to reserve a smoke free room and expect it to be that way without having to take my time and energy to change rooms several times. That $200 doesn't do crap for me. TY. Vent over.

Actually that $200 is supposed to be used to disinfect, deodorize and remove the smoke smell from the room.

 

[disykat]

The problem with using chemicals to "clean" the smoke smell out of a room is that many people have issues with those as well.

Between the smoke, fragrances, cleaning supplies, down pillows, peanuts, etc. it's always a bit challenging for my family to stay in hotels! Usually we're able to accommodate for everything, but occasionally we'll get the smokey room, stuff that housekeeping uses that we can't tolerate, having no pillows because they have nothing but down, etc.

 

[torinsmom]

Iam very sensitive to smoke, too, and if there has EVER been a cigarette in there, I'll know it. I had to go to a funeral a few years ago and got a hotel room with my mother and brother. DBro is a heavy smoker, but he never smokes around us. He takes it outside. However, the stench from his clothes was overpowering. Everything and everyone in that room reeked of cigarette smoke.It even got into my CPAP machine--and that blows air DIRECTLY into my lungs. We stayed for 2 days and I was embarrassed every time we had to be with other family members. I just felt like I stunk the whole weekend.

Everytime my DS15 goes to his dad's house, I have to wash everything he took, whether he wore it or not. His dad lives with his grandparents and they both smoke like chimneys. I just dump his whole duffel bag AND the bag in the washer. I feel for his baby half-sister who is breathing in all that smoke. Even if they don't smoke around her, the chemicals are left on whatever is nearby, such as the carpet and furniture and that baby's face is all over it. Yuck!