Please cover your butt!

[tinkerone]

I say we have this forum locked as it has come to a big debate. There is no right or wrong here. JW

i agree. its become a bashing ground for people who want to consider others ideas as 'trying to dictate' while their ideas are not 'trying to dictate'. we should all be able to speak our feelings and not be judged. i'll listen to your thoughts if you will listen to mine.
and your right, there is no right or wrong. only thoughts of right or wrong.

 

[Dug720]

You got to be kidding, I think we all can agree that floss isn't family friendly. No one has given me any power...I think it's called brain cells and common sense.

No, we live in an international world and multi-cultural country. In some cultures and places, that is perfectly normal and they see nothing wrong with it.
Because they are not "private parts".

 

[Lolsmum]

Right on! Very good parenting I can't believe some people take kids to a nude beach as posted here.

Why?

It's perfectly acceptable in some places.

We took our kids to Spain to visit relatives last summer, to a very family-friendly area. Most of the younger girls were topless on the beach, and some of the women too. My sister-in-law's 9 year old niece was topless. She's got exactly as much to cover up as my 8 year old son or 6 year old daughter. My kids have my pale skin and were wearing long-sleeved rash guards on top, but I would have been fine with them going topless if it weren't for that. I myself stayed covered up because of the aforementioned pale skin and because two pregnancies, breastfeeding and gravity have not been kind. I actually admired the older women like me who were fearless enough to be topless, and some in thongs too (gasp!).

 

[kapoof]

Why?

It's perfectly acceptable in some places.

We took our kids to Spain to visit relatives last summer, to a very family-friendly area. Most of the younger girls were topless on the beach, and some of the women too. My sister-in-law's 9 year old niece was topless. She's got exactly as much to cover up as my 8 year old son or 6 year old daughter. My kids have my pale skin and were wearing long-sleeved rash guards on top, but I would have been fine with them going topless if it weren't for that. I myself stayed covered up because of the aforementioned pale skin and because two pregnancies, breastfeeding and gravity have not been kind. I actually admired the older women like me who were fearless enough to be topless, and some in thongs too (gasp!).

Last time I looked this wasn't Spain. This isn't our culture hence the reason for this thread. In Africa women also walk around topless, that is not wrong there that is their culture. Why not be a trend setter here and you be the first one to drop your top?

 

[kapoof]

No, we live in an international world and multi-cultural country. In some cultures and places, that is perfectly normal and they see nothing wrong with it.
Because they are not "private parts".

You people are unreal...we live in our society that does indeed dictate it's not acceptable. I invite you also to drop your clothes and parade around deck 12 if you are so brave, and open to multi cultures. This invitation also includes your spouse if you are married. Freedom isn't a license for chaos.

 

[Lolsmum]

Last time I looked this wasn't Spain. This isn't our culture hence the reason for this thread. In Africa women also walk around topless, that is not wrong there that is their culture. Why not be a trend setter here and you be the first one to drop your top?

"Our" culture? Which culture are you referring to? Did the cruise stay in US waters the whole time? For that matter, even in Florida there are nude and topless beaches, so presumably the cruise was not there either. "Appropriate" clothing varies a lot even within the US. The Duggars and I certainly do not see eye to eye on this issue, while I would certainly expect far more modest clothing in many venues than some other members of society.

I'm sorry that you are not a fan of thongs, but that hardly means they should not be worn where they are perfectly legal. I'm not a fan of side ponytails, but I don't get to tell others not to wear them, except my own children while they are still children.

Perhaps the wearer of "butt floss" was from a culture where it is acceptable, like many parts of the US.

 

[Club Disney Chandler]

Guess what folks, there isn't a single one of you that is going to be able to convince someone on the other side of the fence to concede to your opinion. You might as well start discussing politics, abortion, and religion. How about everyone stops commenting and we let this thread die. Disboards are supposed to be fun and informative, not get people's blood pressure boiling. And to quote Dennis Miller, "that's just my opinion, I could be wrong." Happy Saturday folks, the Fantasy is going to be pulling out of port soon, I'm going to watch on portcanaveralwebcam.com and wish I was sailing on her.

 

[rebbyparker]

You people are unreal...we live in our society that does indeed dictate it's not acceptable. I invite you also to drop your clothes and parade around deck 12 if you are so brave, and open to multi cultures. This invitation also includes your spouse if you are married. Freedom isn't a license for chaos.

 

[Dug720]

You people are unreal...we live in our society that does indeed dictate it's not acceptable. I invite you also to drop your clothes and parade around deck 12 if you are so brave, and open to multi cultures. This invitation also includes your spouse if you are married. Freedom isn't a license for chaos.

In some aspects of society. Not ALL. There is no *universal* code, and the US is made up of all varieties of cultures. Some cover much more than stereotypical Middle America, others cover less.

And the last time I checked, the ships are flagged in the Bahamas where things are decidedly looser.

 

[Dug720]

"Our" culture? Which culture are you referring to? Did the cruise stay in US waters the whole time? For that matter, even in Florida there are nude and topless beaches, so presumably the cruise was not there either. "Appropriate" clothing varies a lot even within the US. The Duggars and I certainly do not see eye to eye on this issue, while I would certainly expect far more modest clothing in many venues than some other members of society. I'm sorry that you are not a fan of thongs, but that hardly means they should not be worn where they are perfectly legal. I'm not a fan of side ponytails, but I don't get to tell others not to wear them, except my own children while they are still children. Perhaps the wearer of "butt floss" was from a culture where it is acceptable, like many parts of the US.

Bravo!!!

 

[Melissa S]

So let me get this straight. My husband wouldn't be allowed in Remy without a jacket but people can walk around with butt cheeks hanging out and that's not an issue? I complained to GS a couple cruises ago when two women got into the family hot tub and I had someone's nasty bare butt in an inch away from my face as she was getting in. I think DCL needs to rethink its dress code. How about a compromise, floss only on the adult side.

 

[Jey12]

Maybe we should start making people walk the plank if they don't fit in with your idea of modesty. I wasn't aware sailing on a Disney ship was signing up for a fashion show and being judged? By reading these boards on most days you'd think it would be. I personally don't see a difference between someone showing their lower 40 cheeks or having them covered with a thin layer of material like a swimsuit. If either are in my face I'll have the same reaction. I'm going to lean and look away until you get your hind end out of my face. If it remains there, then I have a reason to say something. I don't care if you have 3 layers of clothing on over it. Most of the cruises go to the caribbean where the beach wear is much less than what you'd find on most US beaches. You are the one deciding to travel to a different area with a different idea of things. If this upsets you then maybe you should vacation someplace that does not cater or allow things that upset you? Why spend the money to be so upset by what others are wearing? There are plenty of other places to go that would not cause such distress.

2 Disney cruises, multiple beach trips, a trip to Cancun and only once have I ever noticed naked people or exposed folks walking around. That was in Cancun and on a nude beach section of our adult only resort. The only reason I noticed then was because it was my first ever trip out of the US and out of my social norms. So I was looking. I quickly realized it wasn't anything exciting and decided well good for them. If it bothers you then I have to ask why keep putting yourself in that situation? I'm not telling you to be ok with it. Just curious why if other cultural norms and standards in certain areas are so upsetting why keep exposing yourself to them? (Pun totally intended.) Why book a vacation on an international ship who is open to bookings from people from other cultures and travels to areas where things are so different? I realize that Disney makes people think of family types of activities. What I'm trying to say is that for your family being more covered is the norm. Other families have other norms. I have a hard time with people who want people to respect their personal wishes, while they complain and put others down about having a different set of norms. Just because I'm open to and ok with someone wearing less than I'm comfortable with, doesn't mean I'm going to walk around a deck naked to show my support of them. I will show my support of them by not giving them a verbal flogging for having a different set of standards than I do. Especially if we both fall within the dress code guidelines of the area we are in.

 

[CaliforniaMama]

At age 3? No, couldn't blame him. At age 9? Well, honestly, 9 is old enough to have learned the lesson that we do not comment on the bodies, looks, etc. of other people. In my opinion.

I don't really care what other people wear. I am busy watching my kids, enjoying myself, etc. The clothing choices of those around me have very little impact on me!

I just don't agree with this. I think that if a 9 yo has been taught that one's butt is a private part and that showing one's private parts is inappropriate, that it is only natural that he cannot help commenting. We teach our kids not to say "Look at the ____ lady" in the grocery store. That is covered in the normal lessons of manners. Don't comment on someone's body weight, physical disability, different appearance etc... Some of us may not have had the opportunity to say, hey if you see a naked butt don't say anything because you are being offensive. More than likely we have taught our child that showing his or her private parts is offensive, as this is indicative of the culture we live in. the 9 year old's response is logical as he believes he is seeing something that is "wrong". Much like if he saw someone wearing a shirt with colorful language on it. Just my opinion.

I agree that on a Disney cruise, which is primarily marketed for children and families with children, it is a strange choice of attire, in a primarily American cruise line. Honestly, I was very surprised to read about this on hear, and I am glad that I at least have the heads up to actually have a conversation with my kids about this ahead of time.

In Target earlier today, my son pointed at a magazine (Sports Illustrated?) and began laughing in an embarrased way about the cover showing three women in bathing suits with their buttocks exposed. He is 7. My four year old daughter began laughing about the "butt ladies" on the magazine. Remembering this thread which I read earlier and another one about shocking things seen on a cruise, I had a conversation with them in the car about what they might see on a Disney cruise.

 

[MillauFr]

Just go on an Alaskan cruise. It is way too cold for anyone to wear skimpy clothing.

 

[JW9DVC]

Let's be clear here. What is so upsetting about how one dresses? This is not church. Private parts are of the genital area, which gets covered with a string bikini, thing, floss, ie. clothing material.

The butt part is not private as it shows no genitalia. Trying to push and make someone feel bad for what the are wearing or not wearing is a form of bullying. Public nudity is allowed in cities of the USA. So is clothing. Your choice.

In the USA we have multiple cultures and religions. I'm proud to be an American. I'm proud to be free. Thanks be to all the men and women that have own that freedom for us. And sacrificed for us.

JW

 

[danfromca]

So let me get this straight. My husband wouldn't be allowed in Remy without a jacket but people can walk around with butt cheeks hanging out and that's not an issue? I complained to GS a couple cruises ago when two women got into the family hot tub and I had someone's nasty bare butt in an inch away from my face as she was getting in. I think DCL needs to rethink its dress code. How about a compromise, floss only on the adult side.

I'm pretty live and let live, but even I would have a hard time with people at Remy's dining with their butt cheeks hanging out. Unless, of course, they were wearing the required jacket. I guess then it would be ok

 

[Jey12]

Just go on an Alaskan cruise. It is way too cold for anyone to wear skimpy clothing.

Problem solved.

 

[Four Swampers]

"Please cover your butt!!"

Boy if that isn't the truth! Mine is still red from our last cruise. Next time, I'm taking your advice to the limit: SPF 100!

 

[KingRichard]

I've been told by more then a couple people that on the Mediterranean cruises you will see more then few topless women.

I guess cheeks are minor compared to explaining that to kids.

 

[DahliaRW]

I've been told by more then a couple people that on the Mediterranean cruises you will see more then few topless women.

I guess cheeks are minor compared to explaining that to kids.

My kids would probably ask if she was going to nurse a baby!