Please cover your butt!

[natmom]

We had one lady on the dream wearing floss! it was a huge rear end! I mean huge! Plus she was very short...it was quite unbelievable.

I say good on her if she has enough confidence to wear that! She's an adult and certainly knows she will be looked at. I would never be able to wear that. It is good if my daughter sees that not everyone's body is like an anorexic model in a magazine. If my kids 11 and 13 said anything I'd just say that is how some cultures are. My father is from Germany and I was at a nude beach when I was 10. My eyes popped out of my head at first, but then it was fine and didn't matter.

 

[KerriL]

My kids would probably ask if she was going to nurse a baby!

Awesome! As would mine

 

[MillauFr]

Awesome! As would mine

LOL Las Vegas has several topless pools. I always though it would be funny if a bunch of nursing mothers showed up and let the kid chow down. I wonder how the hotels would react?

 

[kimchey12]

Just go on an Alaskan cruise. It is way too cold for anyone to wear skimpy clothing.

love this ROFL

 

[minniemouse1]

LOL Las Vegas has several topless pools. I always though it would be funny if a bunch of nursing mothers showed up and let the kid chow down. I wonder how the hotels would react?

LOL! I bet the young men looking for a show would be a little shocked.

 

[debsters41]

"Please cover your butt!!"

Boy if that isn't the truth! Mine is still red from our last cruise. Next time, I'm taking your advice to the limit: SPF 100!

Thanks for that!

 

[minniemouse1]

I don't really care what your butt looks like, there are children around, put some damn clothes on. Floss is for your teeth, not your a**!

Oh tag fairy, PLEASE tag this!!!!

 

[ColoradoDisneyFreaks]

Let's be clear here. What is so upsetting about how one dresses? This is not church. Private parts are of the genital area, which gets covered with a string bikini, thing, floss, ie. clothing material.

The butt part is not private as it shows no genitalia. Trying to push and make someone feel bad for what the are wearing or not wearing is a form of bullying. Public nudity is allowed in cities of the USA. So is clothing. Your choice.

In the USA we have multiple cultures and religions. I'm proud to be an American. I'm proud to be free. Thanks be to all the men and women that have own that freedom for us. And sacrificed for us.

JW

It's not bullying, it's a request, throwing bullying out there for everything is reducing the impact of the word, please don't do this. When we tell children that touching a butt without permission should be reported because it's private, then tell them that looking at a butt in a bathing suit is fine because it's not private, which should they believe?

I've been told by more then a couple people that on the Mediterranean cruises you will see more then few topless women.

I guess cheeks are minor compared to explaining that to kids.

RCCL cruises in Europe have a specified deck for this, that isn't viewable from anywhere except that deck, and DCL didn't allow it on their cruises, now you may see them on the beaches, but not on the cruise.

 

[kfamilylovesdisney]

It's not bullying, it's a request, throwing bullying out there for everything is reducing the impact of the word, please don't do this. When we tell children that touching a butt without permission should be reported because it's private, then tell them that looking at a butt in a bathing suit is fine because it's not private, which should they believe?

RCCL cruises in Europe have a specified deck for this, that isn't viewable from anywhere except that deck, and DCL didn't allow it on their cruises, now you may see them on the beaches, but not on the cruise.

Also being "FREE" does not mean you get to do whatever you want whenever you want. That's a very immature, self-centered view of freedom that another poster expressed.

Adult only areas with warning signs could be a possible remedy to give those exhibitionists a place to "be free" without pushing their freedom on others.

 

[kfamilylovesdisney]

Funny how dramatic some of the posts are.

I just told my DH about this post. He was like, "what is wrong with skimpy bathing suits?" I guess we don't totally agree. And lots of people here never will.

BUT...
If people are going in a public place (a place for all that everyone can feel comfortable with) it makes sense that there are "rules" that are agreed upon that all adhere to while in that public place so that everyone feels welcomed in that space. It does not mean anything goes and it doesn't mean your freedoms are all taken away. So, there are expected behaviors and reasonably dress code (not telling how to dress taste wise or expense wise, but culturally with respect to children) is one of those agreements. It is reasonable to expect others to cover private parts (butt, breasts, and front) especially around children who are invited to this public space and who grow up in a culture where these parts are private. No one is suggesting its illegal or to arrest women wearing short shorts (ummm dramatic?).

It's just not comfortable for all those sharing that specific public space (that is highly marketed to families) to see privates. That's all this post is saying. It would also be reasonable to have a dedicated space for those that wish to wear less. This way we would have CHOICE. And isn't choice what freedom is really about?

 

[danfromca]

Funny how dramatic some of the posts are.

I just told my DH about this post. He was like, "what is wrong with skimpy bathing suits?" I guess we don't totally agree. And lots of people here never will.

BUT...
If people are going in a public place (a place for all that everyone can feel comfortable with) it makes sense that there are "rules" that are agreed upon that all adhere to while in that public place so that everyone feels welcomed in that space. It does not mean anything goes and it doesn't mean your freedoms are all taken away. So, there are expected behaviors and reasonably dress code (not telling how to dress taste wise or expense wise, but culturally with respect to children) is one of those agreements. It is reasonable to expect others to cover private parts (butt, breasts, and front) especially around children who are invited to this public space and who grow up in a culture where these parts are private. No one is suggesting its illegal or to arrest women wearing short shorts (ummm dramatic?).

It's just not comfortable for all those sharing that specific public space (that is highly marketed to families) to see privates. That's all this post is saying. It would also be reasonable to have a dedicated space for those that wish to wear less. This way we would have CHOICE. And isn't choice what freedom is really about?

The catch is in the first sentence: "If people are going in a public place (a place for all that everyone can feel comfortable with)"

What if someone is on the ship from a country where having any skin visible is offensive? Does everyone have to cover up because of them? Of course not.

So one might argue - it's a U.S. ship, so it should follow American standards. But, technically it's not a U.S. ship, it's registered in the Bahamas. And even in the U.S., what is appropriate varies dramatically from state to state. I've seen people dressed in public in SF in ways that would probably get them thrown in jail most anywhere else.

Which is why this thread is a debate - there are few absolute standards of what is appropriate or inappropriate. It's a safe bet we all agree that total nudity is out. And it's a safe bet that we all agree that requiring complete coverup is out. But pretty much everything in between is a grey area - very dependent on where you are from and your own background.

So then the question is - should the ship enforce the standard of the most conservative passenger? Or should the ship allow the standards of the most liberal passenger, knowing that the more conservative ones will be uncomfortable?

Since I personally am not a big fan of big brother (whether government or cruise ship) enforcing a specific cultural standard, I lean towards the more liberal side, and if someone is underdressed, I don't look.

 

[wcw57]

yep...I agree

if someone is under-dressed, I definitely look

uh, wait, I shoulda said...........

 

[TinkRose]

In Miami, my hometown, it is very common to see thong bathing suits. People are trying to get tans without tan lines... I cover up because of my very pale skin. I live closer to Port Canaveral now and it is a little more conservative but there are also nude beaches here. I wouldn't have given a second thought to seeing thong bathing suits on the cruise because we see them all the time in Florida.

 

[JW9DVC]

It's not bullying, it's a request, throwing bullying out there for everything is reducing the impact of the word, please don't do this. When we tell children that touching a butt without permission should be reported because it's private, then tell them that looking at a butt in a bathing suit is fine because it's not private, which should they believe?



RCCL cruises in Europe have a specified deck for this, that isn't viewable from anywhere except that deck, and DCL didn't allow it on their cruises, now you may see them on the beaches, but not on the cruise.

It is social bullying when someone is saying something that can embarrass someone in public. The butt checks are not private, it is not acceptable to grab any person anywhere that is a stranger or cause any bodily harm, slapping. Having a thin layer of clothing that does cover the private area is all that is required.

I agree about a cover up when near food, or dining. These people are not naked. Asking someone to cover up because you don't like it, that's absurd. We are free to do as we please within reason and showing butt cheeks is within reason in the USA. Maybe some small towns would say different.

Enjoy seeing the cheeks as they are here to stay. Flaunt it if you want. Enjoy the show if you do or look away if you don't.

JW

 

[NotUrsula]

Re: the Bahamian registration; just exactly how many Bahamian passengers have you met on a DCL cruise? I'm betting not many. The fact is that primary market for DCL is the US/Canada, and the Disney brand is known worldwide as one of the most quintessentially American exports of all time. (According to the most recent report put out by Cruise Lines Intl., among passengers sailing US-owned cruise lines, the nationalities break down as 68.1% American, 4.7% Canadian, and 27.2% all other nations.)

FWIW, Miami isn't the rest of the US -- heck, it's not even the rest of Florida. Since 1990, Florida state law has banned the wearing of thong suits on state-owned beaches, and almost all counties and municipalities on the Gulf Coast have ordinances banning them on public beaches as well. The only public beach that I know of outside the greater Miami area that permits clothing-optional beachgoing is the north end of Playalinda, which is part of the Canaveral National Seashore. Technically, Federal regulations prohibit nudity, but since northern Playalinda is a primitive beach WAY off the beaten path (you have to walk .5 miles to reach it), the rangers essentially ignore it unless there is a complaint of some kind.

While I think that a ban would be overkill, I don't think that it would be at all unreasonable for DCL to discourage the wearing of thong suits, or at least discourage them outside the adult-only areas. Privately-owned companies have the right to dictate clothing rules on their premises, and it isn't like Disney doesn't have similar standards at their theme parks.

IMO, it's just a case of accepted practice -- cruise etiquette says that you don't walk around the non-pool areas of a ship in just a swimsuit. I really don't see why it is such a stretch to imply that thong suits are not considered to be appropriate at the family pool areas on board a US-based vessel (and though the registration is Bahamian, the owner of the ship is DCL, which is licensed in the US. Registry has nothing whatsover to do with ownership. The vast majority of cargo vessels are registered in Liberia, which isn't exactly a hub of international shipping.)

 

[JohnDS]

Technically, Federal regulations prohibit nudity

Can you provide a citation?

I recall being told about the great Victory hotel not far from here. It was notable at the time for it's rather scandalous policy of permitting coed bathing in the swimming pool, a first in the USA. I responded with, " that's a nice story grandpa".

Eta, 7 pages of utter nonsense, this is an impressive example of internet HS. I really did think this would have been locked a few days ago.

 

[Pumpkin meme]

sailing in september

 

[DahliaRW]

I can honestly say I never saw a thong on the fantasy this past January. Lots and lots of bikinis, but no thongs.

 

[MillauFr]

Eta, 7 pages of utter nonsense, this is an impressive example of internet HS. I really did think this would have been locked a few days ago.

This is high class entertainment compared to the useless dribble that you see on TV now days.

 

[minniemouse1]

This is high class entertainment compared to the useless dribble that you see on TV now days.

LOL! I totally agree. 7 pages just for showing some "cheek" Very entertaining.....