Plan Ahead with Lightning Lane Entry at Walt Disney World Starting July 24

[NavyDad]

I haven’t seen the numbers run yet. Keep in mind that most of onsite is going to WDW that day, while offsite is usually just a fraction of those rooms. “Good Neighbor” hotels include alot of people doing things all over Orlando; WDW onsite is more acutely focused on Disney Parks. It might make less of a difference than at first glance. They are far from a slam dunk in savings over the bubble values after parking costs, resort fees and transpo is considered. I’m just sayin’… WDW onsite might see 70-90% percent of guests hitting parks that day, while these other hotels might only be 10-20% of capacity. So in that sense double the rooms wouldn’t mean double the competition.

Yeah I’d rather they not be included Still, the bubble getting early LL access has made true onsite more valuable again.

The important factor is what percentage of off-site guests go to WDW or do other things. Those that do other things are irrelevant. The important factor is what percentage of park visitors each day are on-site versus not staying on-site (which could be locals, off-site, day visitors or whatever). Based on google searches, it looks like between 30-50% of MK guests are estimated to be on-site guests (so half or slightly less) depending on the time of year and situation. That means on an average day, between 50-70% are NOT (generally at least half but maybe more).

 

[WLSILVERCREEKSPRINGS]

The more work I have to do planning what I'm going to do the less it feels like a vacation. I miss the simpler days when we went to the parks without planning ahead for what park, what day or what attractions. I liked when no-one could reserve a ride time. So much has changed at Disney over the last 4 decades it may be time for me to move on and make room for those that like the changes or simply didn't experience a simpler less stressful time.

 

[japanese maple]

When do we purchase this if we are staying at a resort? 7 days out?

 

[kdka421]

For park hopping...

Can you book Tier 1 at MK, and Tier 1 at DHS, Tier 2 DHS

or

Can you book TIer 1 at MK and then 2 Tier 2 at DHS

Not up front, no. It says all 3 you book in advance have to be the same park. Day of, once you use one, you can book your 4th in another park.

 

[WhitGB]

We currently have FL resident tickets linked to our account for our September Pop Century stay. The tickets will need to be validated on site at customer relations upon arrival. Will we still be able to book the Lightening Lane 7 days ahead with attached tickets on our account?

 

[CWTC]

Once the official Disney webpage on this change was working, it appears AP holders will get 3 day window day by day whereas dated tickets can book 3 days ahead for the entire length of their ticket. I cannot find anything on how AP holders staying onsite will be treated - do they get the 7 day window like other onsite guests OR are they held to the 3 day AP rule?

 

[Tom_E_D]

For park hopping...

Can you book Tier 1 at MK, and Tier 1 at DHS, Tier 2 DHS

or

Can you book TIer 1 at MK and then 2 Tier 2 at DHS

 

[margot31]

Just as I was coming to terms of the new system and being on the west coast I now I have to get up at 4 to fight all the east coast people.

 

[kilik64]

Based on the video for booking and the rest of the wording, it looks like its possible there will still be tiered pricing based on what is your first park for the day, but there will not be a multi park option you have to buy if hopping?

 

[Disneyhanna]

I cannot find anything on how AP holders staying onsite will be treated - do they get the 7 day window like other onsite guests OR are they held to the 3 day AP rule?

AP holders on site have generally always been treated as onsite guests first, I wouldn't expect anything different.

 

[123SA]

Any word on whether there will still be VQ for Tron and GOG? I'm assuming yes since they aren't listed in the Tiers

 

[kylenne]

Once the official Disney webpage on this change was working, it appears AP holders will get 3 day window day by day whereas dated tickets can book 3 days ahead for the entire length of their ticket. I cannot find anything on how AP holders staying onsite will be treated - do they get the 7 day window like other onsite guests OR are they held to the 3 day AP rule?

I have to imagine it will work exactly like FP+ used to and you get the onsite advantage.

 

[NavyDad]

This is my biggest issue. I go to disney to engage in stuff, not to sleep in.

That is why there is not one system that is going to make everyone happy.

For nearly a decade these boards were full of people complaining about Fast Pass Plus and how they did not want to plan in advance. They wished they could choose the day of and longed for the days of Fast Pass legacy which was so much "better"

The last few years people have complained non-stop that they hate getting up early while on vacation and they wished they could go back to the good old days of FP+ where they could book rides in advance and already know what they were doing.

In this new iteration people will now be complaining that they have to plan ahead and there is "nothing good left" by the time they get there and use a LL selection.

Time is a flat circle.

 

[Disneyhanna]

Just as I was coming to terms of the new system and being on the west coast I now I have to get up at 4 to fight all the east coast people.

Ok, you made me realize I need to stop complaining about being only one hour behind Florida time, west coast time is really rough for this change

 

[bashuck]

Our upcoming trip is a triple split stay, but we'll have 7 day hoppers which span the hotel stays. Wonder how that will play together in terms of the statement that you can book "the entire stay" at one time.

If all onsite it should allow it.

 

[wilkydelts]

I still can not tell the answer. If you buy for a 7 day trip- does that allow you to book 3 per day ahead or you only get a rolling 3 over the whole trip?

 

[kylenne]

Any word on whether there will still be VQ for Tron and GOG? I'm assuming yes since they aren't listed in the Tiers

Scott Gustin confirmed on Twitter that VQs still exist for those and they are still day of so unless you want to gamble on 1pm you still have to be up at 7

 

[kilik64]

I still can not tell the answer. If you buy for a 7 day trip- does that allow you to book 3 per day ahead or you only get a rolling 3 over the whole trip?

Its 3 in advance per day you buy a pass for.

 

[wisblue]

I know it's too early to tell (obviously) but I predict this change will make touring HS in particular harder. I did stacking the last time I went there and it felt so good to have 4 LLs lined up before I physically entered the park.

It is too early to tell. But really, using DHS as the example, there always was some de facto "tiering" if you tried to stack.

Obviously crowd size and the number of people who purchase the service will always affect availablity. But, if I attempted to stack at DHS, by the time I got to the third selection, availability for the "tier 1" attractions was pretty limited.

For example, if you made Slinky as your first choice at 7 AM and the park opened at 8:30, your second and third choices would be at 10:30 and 12:30. By 12:30 on a busy day availability for RNRC, MMRR, and MFSR might be gone or very late in the day.

Because we almost always go to a park at opening, our approach to this will likely be to make our 3 LL picks 7 days in advance and then target favorite attractions for park opening (including early entry). At DHS we have had good luck going TOT and RNRC first thing and if lucky might get to MMRR before the line is too long.

I will like not having to do the 7 AM login (some times done on a bus on the way to early entry) just to find out what time we can get for Slinky and ROTR. Knowing the times in advance we can then plan out what to do when the park opens.

 

[bashuck]

MK, Epcot, and HS will have a tiered system again. One advance selection from Tier One and two advance selections from Tier Two,

Aren't what used to be tiered now the individual that you have to pay extra for?