Peter Pan's Flight?

[Hidden_Mickey]

What's the big deal? I remember it from MK, and it was nice, but nothing extraordinary. I noticed a few people here said to ride it first thing, and so does Touring Plans. Now I'm curious as to why?

Thanks!

 

[planningjollyholiday]

It always has a consistent standby time of at least 30 minutes from opening to close and no fastpasses. If you ride it first thing you might have a smaller wait time, as people are just starting to line up for it.

 

[Chuckers]

F.Y.I. I like DL's Peter Pan better than WDW's. The additional star field section is pretty cool.

 

[HydroGuy]

What's the big deal? I remember it from MK, and it was nice, but nothing extraordinary. I noticed a few people here said to ride it first thing, and so does Touring Plans. Now I'm curious as to why?

Thanks!

PP is the most popular ride in Fantasyland followed closely by Dumbo. That means the lines for those build up much faster than the other FL rides.

Why are these more popular? Heck, they just are. They have more appeal to a wider variety of guests, plus have limited capacity.

If you ride PP and Dumbo first thing you get them done before the lines shoot to 30+ minutes. If you get to FL early you can ride each of them in 5-10 minutes which saves almost an hour from later in the day.

 

[mikedoyleblogger]

What's the big deal? I remember it from MK, and it was nice, but nothing extraordinary. I noticed a few people here said to ride it first thing, and so does Touring Plans. Now I'm curious as to why?

Thanks!

THE MK version is not an exact duplicate of the DL ride. There are scene differences inside, and the soundtrack includes singing and dialogue in places (unlike MK's version which is exclusively instrumental.) IMO it's a far better ride experience at Disneyland. I usually do it as my last ride of the night, getting in line right before the park closes (at which point it may still be a 45-minute wait!)

 

[brianphill77]

On a non-early entry July morning, assuming we're through the turnstiles by rope drop, do we need to do anything extraordinary to get a short wait for PP?

We're just not the kind of family that's going to run, Frozen meet & greet style, to get to the front of the line. If you're there at RD but not right at the front, and you walk at a normal pace to PP, what sort of wait time would be typical?

 

[figment_jii]

My guess is 15 or so minutes, more depending on how far back you are from the end of MS at rope drop. As others have said, the line builds up quickly and remains long. It's a very popular ride and a pretty slow loader, so those things contribute to a long line throughout the day.

 

[HydroGuy]

On a non-early entry July morning, assuming we're through the turnstiles by rope drop, do we need to do anything extraordinary to get a short wait for PP?

We're just not the kind of family that's going to run, Frozen meet & greet style, to get to the front of the line. If you're there at RD but not right at the front, and you walk at a normal pace to PP, what sort of wait time would be typical?

You need to be at the turnstiles at least 30 minutes before rope drop to be one of the first to ride PP. That is the only extraordinary thing.

 

[llump41]

PP is the most popular ride in Fantasyland followed closely by Dumbo.

They have more appeal to a wider variety of guests, plus have limited capacity.

This is why I think they should refurb the ride from sloops to schooners. All of the other FL dark rides have seating for fish except Peter.

 

[mikana876]

You need to be at the turnstiles at least 30 minutes before rope drop to be one of the first to ride PP. That is the only extraordinary thing.

I don't know about that, when we tried we were first in line at the turnstile and walked straight to PP and still had. 20-30 minute wait.

 

[FryingPansWhoKnew]

What's the big deal? I remember it from MK, and it was nice, but nothing extraordinary. I noticed a few people here said to ride it first thing, and so does Touring Plans. Now I'm curious as to why?

Thanks!

I think we are caught up in a loop here where the scarcity itself affects demand of the product.

Think of PP as a resource in economical terms. PP has a very limited supply (it loads super slow, and has a very low maximum capacity per vehicle). Because of this limited supply, the cost (time spent in line) is greater than its competitors (Snow White, Pinnochio, Mr. Toad's). Now, through perfect information about the market (Touring Plans, DISboards, etc.), people have begun to alter their habits based on this scarcity.

Now people line up early for PP and consider a higher cost (30 minutes) as a normal thing which increases its perceived value. Some choose simply not to purchase (go ride something else), but a good portion of people see this as a greater value than it originally was because of how seemingly popular it is. Now people are more willing to compete for those scarce resources increasing demand which also affects the cost (time spent in line). Luckily, there seems to be an upper bound to this that keeps it from spiraling out of control.

Also, PP is a pretty good ride considering its age and uniqueness.

 

[brianphill77]

I don't know about that, when we tried we were first in line at the turnstile and walked straight to PP and still had. 20-30 minute wait.

That's what I'm concerned with... if we're in at RD and we head to PP 1st thing, but still have to wait 30 minutes, I'd rather go do other things with that precious early-morning time, knowing we can wait 40 minutes later in the day. If it was 30 minutes first-thing vs. 90 minutes later on, it would be a no-brainer to hit PP first. But 30 minutes first-thing vs. 40 later on makes it seem like we'd be better off using that time to take advantage of short lines on Alice or Matterhorn.

 

[HydroGuy]

I don't know about that, when we tried we were first in line at the turnstile and walked straight to PP and still had. 20-30 minute wait.

Don't know what to say other than we were first or second at the turnstiles - or even within the first 10 people - we have never had a wait for PP more than a minute or two. And we have never ran. We do, however, "walk with purpose".

Just checking, but this was not because there were Magic Morning/EMH guests in the park ahead of you?

Also just checking, but even if it is a non-MM/EMH day, when DL opens later (9 or 10AM) they often let people onto Main Street before the park opens. That makes "being first at the turnstile" of lesser value since everyone gathers at the rope. On 8AM days they often hold everyone at the turnstile until the park opens in which case if you are first there is almost no one else in the park when you get in. What happened on your day?

And finally, if you have a stroller, wheelchair or ECV in your group it will obviously affect your pace.

 

[brianphill77]

Also just checking, but even if it is a non-MM/EMH day, when DL opens later (9 or 10AM) they often let people onto Main Street before the park opens. That makes "being first at the turnstile" of lesser value since everyone gathers at the rope. On 8AM days they often hold everyone at the turnstile until the park opens in which case if you are first there is almost no one else in the park when you get in.

aahh, that is good to know. I had envisioned being on Main St at rope drop, I didn't realize that doesn't necessarily happen on 8am opening days, and that we might be waiting at the turnstiles until 8am.

 

[Angrose]

That's what I'm concerned with... if we're in at RD and we head to PP 1st thing, but still have to wait 30 minutes, I'd rather go do other things with that precious early-morning time, knowing we can wait 40 minutes later in the day. If it was 30 minutes first-thing vs. 90 minutes later on, it would be a no-brainer to hit PP first. But 30 minutes first-thing vs. 40 later on makes it seem like we'd be better off using that time to take advantage of short lines on Alice or Matterhorn.

I think that's a very valid arguement. I would get to the park as early as you can, go check out the PP line, then make your decision. I am thinking about going with this strategy when we are there in Nov.

When I went on a busy March weekend I got to the park around 7:45am for an 8am rope drop, this was a Sunday, no MM. I was about mid-way down Main St. in the crowd. I didn't even speed walk and when I got to PP I only waited about 10min to get on.

 

[SweetAlex]

You know, I don't get the Dumbo fascination. To me, this is like zillions of other rides at any carnival around but there's something about PP that I just adore. It's a soothing and magical ride to me. I literally feel like I'm flying. Plus there is no darkness (aka evilness) like other rides so you just leave feeling happy and free. It's Disney magic at its finest to me.

Mid-day is always busy. We just go anytime we see the lineup less than 20 minutes. It's totally a hit and miss thing with this one.

 

[Angrose]

Oh, I forgot to mention, I've read that some people have success with shorter lines just after the fireworks. I think this might be one of the rides they close during fireworks? Watch fireworks from that side of the castle (not the best spot), then get in line immedately after. Also, I would try during or immediately after the parade, especially if you can watch the 1st parade that starts by IASW, then scoot on over to the PP line.

 

[mikana876]

Don't know what to say other than we were first or second at the turnstiles - or even within the first 10 people - we have never had a wait for PP more than a minute or two. And we have never ran. We do, however, "walk with purpose".

Just checking, but this was not because there were Magic Morning/EMH guests in the park ahead of you?

Also just checking, but even if it is a non-MM/EMH day, when DL opens later (9 or 10AM) they often let people onto Main Street before the park opens. That makes "being first at the turnstile" of lesser value since everyone gathers at the rope. On 8AM days they often hold everyone at the turnstile until the park opens in which case if you are first there is almost no one else in the park when you get in. What happened on your day?

And finally, if you have a stroller, wheelchair or ECV in your group it will obviously affect your pace.

That makes a lot of sense. On the day we went there was an actual rope drop where everyone gathered at the ropes. We also had a stroller.

 

[HydroGuy]

That makes a lot of sense. On the day we went there was an actual rope drop where everyone gathered at the ropes. We also had a stroller.

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[HydroGuy]

aahh, that is good to know. I had envisioned being on Main St at rope drop, I didn't realize that doesn't necessarily happen on 8am opening days, and that we might be waiting at the turnstiles until 8am.

There are trends but not very many things happens the same way every day. If something big and new happens at DL and the morning crowds are huge, then they sometimes open folks onto Main Street before the park opens even at 8AM just to get the turnstile lines reduced. Folks hate to show up at DL and see a line at the turnstile a mile long. Same thing for DCA, which is why they let folks into DCA early right after RSR opened.