Pet store dogs

[Dolce27]

That's your opinion.

I guess we're are at a standoff.

Guess so. But insulting others is still not cool.

 

[jrmasm]

Guess so. But insulting others is still not cool.

Again, your opinion. I very seldom find the truth to be insulting unless I am insecure with my own actions.

Look, people make mistakes. I get that. But touting a mistake as doing the right thing gets under my skin.

15 years ago, I bought a dog from a newspaper ad. It was a mistake. I know better now and wouldn't do it again. You can say anything you want about what I did and I would't be insulted because I know I made the wrong decision.

 

[honugirl]

Again, your opinion. I very seldom find the truth to be insulting unless I am insecure with my own actions.

Look, people make mistakes. I get that. But touting a mistake as doing the right thing gets under my skin.

15 years ago, I bought a dog from a newspaper ad. It was a mistake. I know better now and wouldn't do it again. You can say anything you want about what I did and I would't be insulted because I know I made the wrong decision.

Hockeymom did what she thought was right.

Just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean that she needs to be insulted. Step off the I'm holier than thou box and understand that different people do different things different ways. Not everyone has the time or the energy to go through the adoption process. I doubt very much that even if I wanted a dog right now I would be able to adopt one because I live in a condo and even though that dog would be a service dog for me and able to go everywhere, including doggie play areas at the local parks and play dates at friend's houses, I don't have a backyard, which most shelters find unacceptable. There are many reasons why people do what they do.

 

[sunnyday123]

Again, your opinion. I very seldom find the truth to be insulting unless I am insecure with my own actions.

Look, people make mistakes. I get that. But touting a mistake as doing the right thing gets under my skin.

15 years ago, I bought a dog from a newspaper ad. It was a mistake. I know better now and wouldn't do it again. You can say anything you want about what I did and I would't be insulted because I know I made the wrong decision.

the mistake was made by the breeder. Hockeymom did the right thing by making sure that puppy got a loving home.

 

[honugirl]

the mistake was made by the breeder. Hockeymom did the right thing by making sure that puppy got a loving home.

ITA!

 

[Planogirl]

Even good dog owners don't keep in contact with their breeders. None of my friends do. My parents and I don't. Why would we? It's our dog. We're not showing it, it's just our pet. I would hazard a guess to say it's like that with most people.

I agree! My parents bought a Collie from a reputable breeder and once the breeder knew the dog was in a good home and settled, she never contacted my parents again. Why would she?

 

[MushyMushy]

Not sure where you are Mushy, but unfortunately there is still a Pet Store that sells puppies at ParkWay Center Mall right outside of Pittsburgh. (at least it was open last time I was there) The pet shop at Century 3 mall closed, thank goodness.

I'm about an hour south of Pittsburgh. I didn't realize there was a pet store in the Parkway Center Mall! I haven't been there since ChiChi's closed. It's such a shame that pet stores still sell dogs and/or cats.

 

[Planogirl]

I'm about an hour south of Pittsburgh. I didn't realize there was a pet store in the Parkway Center Mall! I haven't been there since ChiChi's closed. It's such a shame that pet stores still sell dogs and/or cats.

The cat situation is so different that I wonder where the pet shops get their cats. Those I see are just "mutts" so it's not like they come from backyard breeders.

We only ever got a kitten from one pet shop but it was when we lived in a small town and the pet shop owner used to sell kittens to help out careless cat owners. He charged a whopping $5 for a kitten and groused the whole time about people who didn't get their cats spayed. He was a character.

 

[MushyMushy]

The cat situation is so different that I wonder where the pet shops get their cats. Those I see are just "mutts" so it's not like they come from backyard breeders.

We only ever got a kitten from one pet shop but it was when we lived in a small town and the pet shop owner used to sell kittens to help out careless cat owners. He charged a whopping $5 for a kitten and groused the whole time about people who didn't get their cats spayed. He was a character.

That's why I wonder about the dog I bought all those years ago. Since he was, at the most, $20, they couldn't have been making a profit on him -- especially since they'd given him all his shots.

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

Even good dog owners don't keep in contact with their breeders. None of my friends do. My parents and I don't. Why would we? It's our dog. We're not showing it, it's just our pet. I would hazard a guess to say it's like that with most people.

Its in my contract that my dogs' breeder wants to see a picture of my dogs or have some contact with the owner at least once a year. If she doesn't hear from the owner of her pups , she will contact them. It has nothing to do with showing. Most of her pups are sold as pets. She just likes to keep track of her pups as much as possible and make sure they are well taken care of.

This kind of involvement with her pups is just one of the reasons I chose this breeder to buy my dogs from.

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

I agree! My parents bought a Collie from a reputable breeder and once the breeder knew the dog was in a good home and settled, she never contacted my parents again. Why would she?

Read my other post. There are reasons why mine does. She likes to know her pups are well taken of and didn't end up in a shelter somewhere.

 

[sunnyday123]

Its in my contract that my dogs' breeder wants to see a picture of my dogs or have some contact with the owner at least once a year. If she doesn't hear from the owner of her pups , she will contact them. It has nothing to do with showing. Most of her pups are sold as pets. She just likes to keep track of her pups as much as possible and make sure they are well taken care of.

This kind of involvement with her pups is just one of the reasons I chose this breeder to buy my dogs from.

But people lie/move/don't answer their phone. Then what?

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

Hockeymom did what she thought was right.

Just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean that she needs to be insulted. Step off the I'm holier than thou box and understand that different people do different things different ways. Not everyone has the time or the energy to go through the adoption process. I doubt very much that even if I wanted a dog right now I would be able to adopt one because I live in a condo and even though that dog would be a service dog for me and able to go everywhere, including doggie play areas at the local parks and play dates at friend's houses, I don't have a backyard, which most shelters find unacceptable. There are many reasons why people do what they do.

I support jrmasm. I agree with everything she has said.

I too bought my 1st collie from a backyard breeder. She was an awesome dog that lived to be 16. I was very lucky. I didn't make the same mistake with my next ones. Its one thing to make a mistake once, its another to continue the cycle, thus supporting the unethical breeder. If these statements make me seem holier than thou, then guess I am, so be it.

And if one doesn't have the time or energy to look for a dog how would one have the time and energy to care for that dog for a lifetime?

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

But people lie/move/don't answer their phone. Then what?

Well I'm sure she does what she can. She'snot superwoman. I know things happen, but at least an effort is made. Plus she pretty much only sells to people she knows or friends of friends.

 

[MushyMushy]

I support jrmasm. I agree with everything she has said.

I too bought my 1st collie from a backyard breeder. She was an awesome dog that lived to be 16. I was very lucky. I didn't make the same mistake with my next ones. Its one thing to make a mistake once, its another to continue the cycle, thus supporting the unethical breeder. If these statements make me seem holier than thou, then guess I am, so be it.

And if one doesn't have the time or energy to look for a dog how would one have the time and energy to care for that dog for a lifetime?

What exactly does backyard breeder mean?

 

[Planogirl]

What exactly does backyard breeder mean?

I get the impression that it's people who breed a pair of dogs over and over for profit and don't much care about the dogs or the breed. A reputable breeder to me doesn't breed endlessly and does care. I do think that regularly checking in on puppies that were sold years prior is overkill however but to each their own.

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

What exactly does backyard breeder mean?

It not even necessarily a person who breeds over and over.

It is that but its also someone who doesn't take the time to do all the necessary testing on the parents prior to breeding. All breeds have their problems . Labs-hips, collies-eyes, shepherds-hips, Dobes-heart. , And the list goes on and on.

A reputable breeder will make necessary testing ahead of time to asure or do all they can to make sure the pups aren't born with any problems. Backyard breeders won't do this because it will cut into their profit.

 

[mjkacmom]

the mistake was made by the breeder. Hockeymom did the right thing by making sure that puppy got a loving home.

Financially supporting animal cruelty is not doing the right thing. I've made the mistake of buying a puppy from a pet store, not knowing what I know now. I don't feel guilty about it, since I was ignorant to the facts, but there is no way I could do it again.

 

[Aisling]

A reputable breeder will make necessary testing ahead of time to asure or do all they can to make sure the pups aren't born with any problems. Backyard breeders won't do this because it will cut into their profit.

Petshops, backyard breeders and reputable breeders are all making profits from creating more dogs when shelters are filled with dogs. I'm not judging, as I bought my dog from a pet shop. Just wondering why people who are against petshops will not take their concern a step further and save a homeless dog.

If a reputable breeder finds out through their health testing that a litter has health problems, a bad heart, deaf, whatever, what happens to the pups? Sold as is? Kept and raised by the breeder, sent to shelters, euthanized?

 

[juligrl]

In some places there are not small dogs at the shelter. I routinely go to ours here in town and maybe have seen one small dog in 10 years. Some places just don't attract small dogs to the shelter. Or they have an overabundance of hunting/sporting dogs which end up at the shelter. I would say 90% of the dogs in my town are some sort of either lab mix or pit mix. Where I live is much more rural than other areas though.

To add to this...or those shelters that do get small breed dogs do not adopt them to households with children under a certain age. That's largely the understanding at the local shelter I volunteer for as well as Russell Rescue which I also help out with on occassion. They are pretty firm about not adopting to homes with children under 6 years old. Take my case, my children have been raised with a Jack and they know how to properly treat and behave around this type of dog. We are definately a Jack saavy home and the breed fits with our lifestyle - I love this breed, but trust me, they are not the dog for everybody! Yes, I know temprement varies from dog to dog, but as long as rescue organizations continue to place blanket restrictions on who can rescue, good dogs will miss out getting placed in good homes and those owners will continue to turn to breeders (legit, backyard and puppymill) to get their new family members. I understand the reasons for the restrictions, but it just perpetuates the cycle.