Perception=Reality

[Sparx]

reality is perception.
perception is not reality.

and what happens whne you die?
not religious arguements needed.

deterioration of the physical body. often slowed by medical means such as formaldehyde.

in other words, rot.

 

[tinkerbell12]

deterioration of the physical body. often slowed by medical means such as formaldehyde.

in other words, rot.

Yea...

Shelby's right about that...

 

[meeshheartsdisney217]

i meant with you. like your mental being.

i know that things rot. i do take science class.

 

[Arielfn93]

deterioration of the physical body. often slowed by medical means such as formaldehyde.

in other words, rot.

Well, yes that happens, but I really wonder where our spirits go. I mean, if ghosts do exist I wonder how some get tied down to earth

 

[BabyPiglet]

It all depends on what you believe.

 

[Sparx]

Well, yes that happens, but I really wonder where our spirits go. I mean, if ghosts do exist I wonder how some get tied down to earth

what if they're not "tied down" but they're ALL here.

 

[Arielfn93]

It all depends on what you believe.

yeah, until you get there, but by that time, you wont be wondering about what happens when your dead

 

[Arielfn93]

what if they're not "tied down" but they're ALL here.

Yeah, you know stuff like this gets me confused, and then I'm spending the whole night thinking about stuff that nobody truly understands

 

[BabyPiglet]

yeah, until you get there, but by that time, you wont be wondering about what happens when your dead

I told you what I believe happens. But everyone has their own perception.

I read a book where the evil people of the world, the people who have done wrong, are trapped in a lake and they can't get out. They have no bodies, no nothing, but they still have a mind, they know they're trapped. They can't talk or do anything.

Whatever happen will happen, if we just feel like we take a nap it will happen.

Maybe we're all dead and this is just dream.

You never know.

 

[Arielfn93]

I told you what I believe happens. But everyone has their own perception.

I read a book where the evil people of the world, the people who have done wrong, are trapped in a lake and they can't get out. They have no bodies, no nothing, but they still have a mind, they know they're trapped. They can't talk or do anything.

Whatever happen will happen, if we just feel like we take a nap it will happen.

Maybe we're all dead and this is just dream.

You never know.

You never really do, or like in Grey's Anatomy
you go to a hospital and talk to all the dead people you knew

 

[BabyPiglet]

You never really do, or like in Grey's Anatomy
you go to a hospital and talk to all the dead people you knew

Heh xD

That would be interesting. Or maybe you go on with your life as it was, and you don't realize anything else happened? Or maybe you become something new, someone new? Or maybe you just keep reliving your life, but making it different each time. We don't know.

Or maybe the whole thing is a toy that some little toddler is playing with. Maybe that is what our world is.

It is completely unknown, you make it your own until you die, then you really know.

 

[tinkerbell12]

What about paranomality?

What's that all about?

 

[BabyPiglet]

What about paranomality?

What's that all about?

I really don't believe in the paranormal. I believe spirits leave this place no matter what.

But everyone believe differently. Your views?

 

[Lil_Tink]

I believe in paranorma to a certain extent. I believe in ghosts, but not demons or anything. I have just had way to many unexplainable situations.

 

[Sparx]

There was once a Twilight Zone episode of people that were trapped in a plastic town. Everything from the grass to the squirrel to the food in the cabinets of the houses was fake.

In truth, two little humans had been given to a giant toddler by his giant father, who just returned from a trip. Humans were but toys to him, to be put in his toy city.

 

[Loves Disney]

"Stuff" was the jobs you mentioned, the way we function. "Game" is the big picture of things.

That stuff might make our little world go round, but I don't think it means anything. Politics, it doesn't mean anything either. We were put on this Earth and this is what we chose to do. We chose to make these things and live off them, technology, it's all useless.

And why is what they know useless? They might know the most important facts ever. The things that tell us why we are. Why we are here, and doing what we do. It's very complicated.

If they know something we don't...why don't we know about it? It's because they don't do anything with it. If they do have some higher information about something, it is useless. You cannot say it isn't because if it wasn't useless, we would know about it. Useless means unusable. If they were able to use it, it would be used. It is NOT an opinion, it is a FACT that if they know something we don't it is USELESS. lol. Don't try to argue it otherwise because it is false. They do NOT use some higher intelligence that we don't know about. Therefore it is useless.

There are many different areas and levels of mental illnesses. It isn't one type. Each is a deteriation of the brain cells. They don't have what it takes to function properly. What they have are defects of the most important organ of our body. I would be willing to argue the fact that babies have a an intelligence we don't have before I argue that those with mental defects do.

The "stuff" you think doesn't mean anything is the stuff you live off of. Without it, we'd be dead. Take away your house, your food, your clothes, your friends and your neighbors. Take away your belongings and your most valued items. Take away everything and leave only the trees, grass, flowers, and everything else natural around you. Live like the cavemen did. Live like that now after you have had all of this. Could you live without your friends? Would you be happy to have no one to laugh with about what movie you saw last weekend or what you did the other night? Because that is a part of society and according to you, that means nothing. Could you live without the tasty food and salts or sweets and without your favorite juice or filtered water? Could you live without chocolate and without bread? Could you live without the stuff that tastes good willingly? Because that is what society has improved. They have taken the basic foods that we first discovered and made them better. They even discovered better food. But according to you, that means nothing. Could you live without your favorite music? Without the computer or without the TV? Could you live without the phone and other means of communication? Could you live without light at night? Those are things that society has invented but according to you...those mean nothing. Could you live in complete chaos and in war and in termination? Those are things a stable government keeps under control. Could you live without earning money, without work and without any income or way of earning a living? Those are things our government has developed to give people a chance at a decent life.

My point is...what this world runs on has been a process that improved on the basic standards of suriving. The evolution of life has brought us to where we are now. Yes, we make decisions...but we make decisions from what we have learned as a way of survival. We interact with others through our natural way of communicating such as animals communicate between each other. We have developed a way of living through what our species has naturally developed and our society has only made it more communicable and easier. Without our government, this country would be in complete chaos. We wouldn't have jobs or careers. We wouldn't have the things that keep us busy. We would be destroyed as a country and we would probably be speaking another language. But wait, if that isn't reality...no country would have organization and would also be in complete chaos. Therefore, this entire world would be in war and awful anarchy. We would destroy ourselves. The governements around the world interact (for the most part) for trade and for stable alliances. Importing and exporting has been a countinous thing and without government, we would not have nearly half the stuff we have now. Notice how many things are "Made in China"? lol.

That "stuff" IS reality because it is what our species has developed. We then make decisions from there but they are decisions we make as human beings. Therefore, it is real. This society is real and the way we survive is real because they are things that keep us alive and things that keep things in decent order...an order that allows us to decently interact with other civilizations. If all of that means nothing...then tell me what does? If what keeps us alive means nothing...perhaps we should all die because death would have to mean something, right? I believe in an afterlife...but that doesn't mean life means nothing because we were put on Earth for a reason (as least from what I believe) and since we are surviving decently and since our species has only grown since the dawn of time, we must be doing something right.

Everything we created is not useless because it's being used.

 

[BabyPiglet]

Good point Cat, but how do you know the mentally unstable aren't using what they know. In sone way we just can't identify with.

All the uses you mentioned those are all things to keep us busy, and no they're not technically useless, but they might not be able to help us in the bigger picture.

What is the bigger picture? I don't know. But I know that somethings that don't always make sense can make the most perfect sense in some way.

Again my point of view is very hard to explain, and like I normally do right when I had it in between my toes, I lost it.

Complicated.

 

[Loves Disney]

Good point Cat, but how do you know the mentally unstable aren't using what they know. In sone way we just can't identify with.

All the uses you mentioned those are all things to keep us busy, and no they're not technically useless, but they might not be able to help us in the bigger picture.

What is the bigger picture? I don't know. But I know that somethings that don't always make sense can make the most perfect sense in some way.

Again my point of view is very hard to explain, and like I normally do right when I had it in between my toes, I lost it.

Complicated.

How do we know they aren't using what they know? Because if it was that important to society and that major of an undiscovered intelligence, it would be recognized in all of these studies and tests done on them to treat their illness. Heck, if it was that huge of a thing, it would be visable to us. I am not saying they don't have some crazy intelligence, because I don't know (I don't believe they do but I don't know) what I do know is they don't use it. The fact that proves it's useless.

Food, clothing, housing, friendships, family...they just keep us busy. Okay lol. That is your opinion. But that's life and that is what we live on. We need food to survive. Without it we die. That is human nature...that is surving. Food does more than "keep us busy".

Reality is what we live. It's what we breathe, think and feel. Reality is us. The bigger picture in what? Reality? If so...those things I mentioned ARE the bigger picture and "technically" becomes most definitely. BabyPiglet, I am not sure why you think we don't need food, clothes, houses, jobs, friends, light, water, or communication abilities, but I do know without a lot of those things, we would die and cease to exist. That is the cold hard reality of life. It is what is real...believe it or not.

 

[BabyPiglet]

How do we know they aren't using what they know? Because if it was that important to society and that major of an undiscovered intelligence, it would be recognized in all of these studies and tests done on them to treat their illness. Heck, if it was that huge of a thing, it would be visable to us. I am not saying they don't have some crazy intelligence, because I don't know (I don't believe they do but I don't know) what I do know is they don't use it. The fact that proves it's useless.

Food, clothing, housing, friendships, family...they just keep us busy. Okay lol. That is your opinion. But that's life and that is what we live on. We need food to survive. Without we die. That is human nature...that is surving. Food does more than "keep us busy".

Reality is what we live. It's what we breathe, think and feel. Reality is us. The bigger picture in what? Reality? If so...those things I mentioned ARE the bigger picture and "technically" becomes most definitely. BabyPiglet, I am not sure why you think we don't need food, clothes, houses, jobs, friends, light, water, or communication abilities, but I do know without a lot of those things, we would die and cease to exist. That is the cold hard reality of life. It is what is real...believe it or not.

It's philosophy that is what I am talking about. We humans are so scared of death we do everything to prevent it. Food is important in our life on this planet, right now. How do you know, for sure, that we would cease to exist? This is could be only the first stage of life, of us. I don't what your beliefs are but maybe just maybe these things are not everything.

I don't know quite how to explain my point of view without continually repeating myself.

It's just what I think.

 

[Loves Disney]

It's philosophy that is what I am talking about. We humans are so scared of death we do everything to prevent it. Food is important in our life on this planet, right now. How do you know, for sure, that we would cease to exist? This is could be only the first stage of life, of us. I don't what your beliefs are but maybe just maybe these things are not everything.

I don't know quite how to explain my point of view without continually repeating myself.

It's just what I think.

We know you cannot survive without food because you die of starvation. People have died from the before. That is how we know we need food. lol. If you want to get into what there is in an afterlife, that is another thing. The conversation here is what is on Earth and that is life. Not what comes after death.