People taking pictures on Spaceship Earth despite being told to stop

Aren't both actions equally bad?

No. It completely baffles me that so many people think that there is something wrong with saying something about bad behavior that negatively impacts you.

What ever happened to having some tolerance in this world?

Why should everyone else have to continuously "tolerate" rude behavior from rude people? If enough people say something, perhaps the rude people may finally "get" it. I don't think the notion of tolerance is meant to allow and excuse others who engage in behavior that negatively impacts everyone else.
 
Why should everyone else have to continuously "tolerate" rude behavior from rude people? If enough people say something, perhaps the rude people may finally "get" it. I don't think the notion of tolerance is meant to allow and excuse others who engage in behavior that negatively impacts everyone else.

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In July, my Spacship Experience was less than stellar due to this young man in the car ahead of us holding up his phone to record the ENTIRE ride. No he didn't use flash , but all I could focus on was his bright phone screen held up above his head. I like Spaceship Earth dark and relaxing.
 
Maybe we could all carry water guns and shoot the water at their cameras.
 

My kids used to call me the flash photography police. I always used to remind folks who were taking flash photos on dark rides that no flash photography was allowed.

It's so bad though that I've stopped saying it. Otherwise I'd lose my voice by the end of the day!

I like to take the occasional non flash picture on dark rides but my new camera has a red light that shows up on the item you are going to take a picture of. It's a focus thing and I find it kind of embarrassing to have that pop up just before I take a non flash picture in the dark. So I've decided no more goofing around with pictures on dark rides.

I am also getting annoyed by the folks who also talk their way through the dark rides. Yap, yap, yap. I don't care about your cousin or your best friend having plastic surgery. Just relax, be quiet, and enjoy the ride.
 
Flash photography totally ticks me off on rides----so would somebody holding up a cell phone with a bright screen all through a dark ride. I truly hope that I raise my children to be more considerate of other people.

Disney REALLY needs to do something about the problem. The PP who said that even if you ride it again, you will probably have the same problem is totally correct. I wish I could just ignore it and move on, but I really can't. And then I'm mad because I'm too busy being mad to really enjoy the ride. AARRRGGGHHHH!
 
Why should everyone else have to continuously "tolerate" rude behavior from rude people? If enough people say something, perhaps the rude people may finally "get" it. I don't think the notion of tolerance is meant to allow and excuse others who engage in behavior that negatively impacts everyone else.
I agree, but people who are yelling at rude people often don't know how to do that effectively. While I may find the flash photography annoying, it's not nearly as bad as the guy two cars back who yells, "Turn off the @#$(%&^*# flash!" while my 5YO nephew is sitting in the car with me. Frankly, I'd much rather see the flash.

If you feel as though the rudeness (flash photography, cellphone light, talking, PDA, etc) warrants it, then yes -- do say something. But don't try to fix rudeness by being rude in return. I generally look at the offender (if I can see them), make eye contact, and say, "Please stop that." I don't give them a reason why, I don't make it a question to which they can answer "no" -- I state it as a firm request. Usually, it works. When it doesn't, I might make a second request. If that doesn't work, I drop it. Because in the long run, if the worst thing that happens to me in a 24 hour period is that someone used their flash on a dark ride at Disney World, then my life is going pretty good, y'know?

:earsboy:

PS. To the OP -- did anything GOOD happen to you on your vacation? I've read all sorts of threads started by you about things that annoyed you (people stopping on the side of the road for pictures, flash photos on rides, etc.). I haven't read any threads that talk about you enjoying yourself! :goodvibes
 
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PS. To the OP -- did anything GOOD happen to you on your vacation? I've read all sorts of threads started by you about things that annoyed you (people stopping on the side of the road for pictures, flash photos on rides, etc.). I haven't read any threads that talk about you enjoying yourself! :goodvibes
Agreed.

If you're going to start threads about your vacation, how about some good stuff, too?
 
When I was on Spaceship Earth these two Women in front of me had started taking pictures with a flash and the Cast Member in the loading area said they couldn't do that and they said ok. Well no more then 1 minute later they started doing that again basically taking flash pictures of everything on there, which was really annoying. However a lot of other guests were also doing that and I had actually wished that the Cast Members take away everyone's camera when they get on and get it back when the ride is over. Ok thank you all for letting me vent that out of my system.

Just remember, "You can't buy class or manners":sad2:
 
In July, my Spacship Experience was less than stellar due to this young man in the car ahead of us holding up his phone to record the ENTIRE ride. No he didn't use flash , but all I could focus on was his bright phone screen held up above his head.

Flash photography totally ticks me off on rides----so would somebody holding up a cell phone with a bright screen all through a dark ride

The flash pictures are blinding but an even bigger problem today, which I mentioned in another thread, is the digital cameras/phones in general. Even when taking non-flash pictures or shooting video, both of which ARE allowed on the dark rides, the cameras and phones today all have good size bright LCD display screens. Since those screens shine backwards, if you are stuck behind anyone using one, you've got that bright screen shining in your face the whole ride/show. That happened to us at American Adventure. It is tough to watch and enjoy a ride when the person ahead of you essentially has the equivalent of a flashlight aimed at your face the whole time. When I use my camera, I turn off the monitor but I've been told that not all cameras have that feature. Unless Disney were to ban photography totally, which I am NOT proposing, there is really no way around this one.
 
Yeah, I certainly hope Disney doesn't just start banning all ride photography or making people leave their cameras off rides! That would negatively impact those of us who enjoy dark ride photography and follow the rules (no flashing).

However, I do wish they'd say what they really mean at each attraction. I'm more than happy to follow the rules if I just know what they are. I was on Soarin' last year and at the beginning they said "no flash photography." So great, I prepped my camera, took it out, got off two picture (without the flash) and then they came over the speaker saying no photography allowed.

Soooo embarrassing, and I felt so bad for messing up the ride experience for people.
 
For those little round red or green lights that show up on your camera, cover them with black electrical tape and hope your focus turns out OK, better than annoying a fellow tourist. I don't know if you could make a cover for the cell phone screens or larger camera monitor displays though, haven't tried that.
 
Agreed.

If you're going to start threads about your vacation, how about some good stuff, too?

I can't speak for others, but when I'm reading threads about other's vacations, I like hearing the good and the bad. I've read a few of the op's posts about vacations, and find them to be very helpful. If you think he is only posting negative stuff and don't like it, then don't read it.
 
I have said (not yelled) something to people using the flash and have done so in case they did not know the rules.

You know, as much as I find it annoying that people take flash pictures where they are not supposed to; I find it equally annoying people yelling at them to stop. Yes, you have someone doing something that infringes on your enjoyment of the ride, but the other person is yelling just to make themselves feel better. Aren't both actions equally bad? What ever happened to having some tolerance in this world? It seems like our country and people have become so polarized and "me first" in their words and actions that civility seems to have just gone out the door.
 
I agree, but people who are yelling at rude people often don't know how to do that effectively. While I may find the flash photography annoying, it's not nearly as bad as the guy two cars back who yells, "Turn off the @#$(%&^*# flash!" while my 5YO nephew is sitting in the car with me. Frankly, I'd much rather see the flash.

If you feel as though the rudeness (flash photography, cellphone light, talking, PDA, etc) warrants it, then yes -- do say something. But don't try to fix rudeness by being rude in return. I generally look at the offender (if I can see them), make eye contact, and say, "Please stop that." I don't give them a reason why, I don't make it a question to which they can answer "no" -- I state it as a firm request. Usually, it works. When it doesn't, I might make a second request. If that doesn't work, I drop it. Because in the long run, if the worst thing that happens to me in a 24 hour period is that someone used their flash on a dark ride at Disney World, then my life is going pretty good, y'know?

:earsboy:

PS. To the OP -- did anything GOOD happen to you on your vacation? I've read all sorts of threads started by you about things that annoyed you (people stopping on the side of the road for pictures, flash photos on rides, etc.). I haven't read any threads that talk about you enjoying yourself! :goodvibes

I've read many good and positive things that he has posted about vacations.
 
Really the people using cameras on rides miss out. They spend the whole time on the ride messing around with the camera and looking into that tiny screen. With that level of darkness you tiny point and shoot will not focus properly. Even with the use of an auto focus assist light, the auto focus will not be able to lock on.
For them it is loose loose, no good photos, and they missout on experiencing the ride the way Disney intended.
 
I don't know if you could make a cover for the cell phone screens or larger camera monitor displays though, haven't tried that.

The problem with covering the screen is you are then shooting blind since the screen is the viewfinder on many cameras and all phones. As a photographer, I certainly wouldn't want to go through my trip taking pictures blindly and just hope they come out.
 
rumors (true or not) just need to get going around that people have been expelled without refund for taking flash pictures and Disney would just need to post a few signs regarding that being a possibility
 
Really the people using cameras on rides miss out. They spend the whole time on the ride messing around with the camera and looking into that tiny screen.

Keep in mind that many of us aren't first-timers. I've taken photos on virtually every ride at one point or another. Sometimes I go on specifically to take pictures, having already enjoyed the ride many, many times before. Even cheap digital cameras today do quite well in low light situations. You can take some really nice shots with very simple equipment.
 
Really the people using cameras on rides miss out. They spend the whole time on the ride messing around with the camera and looking into that tiny screen. With that level of darkness you tiny point and shoot will not focus properly. Even with the use of an auto focus assist light, the auto focus will not be able to lock on.
For them it is loose loose, no good photos, and they missout on experiencing the ride the way Disney intended.

That is correct. With a point and shoot or a cell phone camera you are highly unlikely to come away with any good shots in a dark ride. But with the right camera and lens combination, you can get some awesome shots..... without flash. And it's a great way to hone your photography skills.
 

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