People are insane!

[PlainJane]

Isn't this assault? Shouldn't park security or police be called on those who use strollers as battering rams? I would think you could press charges when someone is injured.

That would require the assailent not running off. The person who pushed a kid on purposes to get to a ride faster is most likely not going to bide their time waiting for security to arrive. I'm sure park security footage could be used in some cases.

I'll be traveling with a little next time, and it makes me so sad to think of him or any kid getting intentionally knocked down at Disney. Their parents probably worked so hard to give their child this gift and some horrid person is only thinking about making it to the next ride. Poor baby is just so excited to be at Disney and next thing they know they're being attacked over saving 10 minutes in a line.

 

[Peepster]

Just our opinion, but having visited WDW for many years, we feel that one of the causes of people's short fuses is definitely the fault of Disney greed. The parks are packed like never before and new lodging and DVC resorts continue to be built bringing more and more people to the same number of parks. Yes, I agree that we, as humans, are guilty of the "me first" factor, which is part of the equation, unfortunately. There also seem to be less CM's to handle problems when they do occur and I find it a little sad to have them yelling at us as if we're a herd of cattle...but can't blame them when so many don't follow instructions. All in all, we go less often as it's just less magical for us. Before I sound too pessimistic though, there certainly are many more wonderful peeps in the world than the opposite, as evidenced by my fellow DIS'ers!

 

[alex9179]

Just our opinion, but having visited WDW for many years, we feel that one of the causes of people's short fuses is definitely the fault of Disney greed. The parks are packed like never before and new lodging and DVC resorts continue to be built bringing more and more people to the same number of parks. Yes, I agree that we, as humans, are guilty of the "me first" factor, which is part of the equation, unfortunately. There also seem to be less CM's to handle problems when they do occur and I find it a little sad to have them yelling at us as if we're a herd of cattle...but can't blame them when so many don't follow instructions. All in all, we go less often as it's just less magical for us. Before I sound too pessimistic though, there certainly are many more wonderful peeps in the world than the opposite, as evidenced by my fellow DIS'ers!

There is a case for that. However, I've been a part of the work force long enough to realize that the knock-down mentality isn't new. What's new(er) is hearing about it all. of. the. time. People, as a group, aren't awesome. History proves how insular we tend to be. There are plenty that think of others, I know a lot. I also know a lot that feel that their wants or concerns are paramount.

None of us are carved in stone. We can be intolerant one day and the soul of philanthropy the next. Blaming an entity apart from ourselves is folly. We are able to make good decisions on our own. I won't pardon those who are hurtful, because I know that they would be vocal about any perceived injustice toward themselves or their family.

 

[SimonSez]

Remember when there were no adrs, and people didn't plan every waking second? I miss the good old days at WDW.

Yes I do

 

[Uncranky Donald]

Every time this thread jumps to the top I keep saying to myself, "Geesh! People are still insane??!!"

 

[Sir Saint]

My favorite related story - we were staying at one of the value resorts that didn't have the chain queue for the AK bus. We had just missed the last bus and we were first in line. After a few minutes for some reason a second line had started on our left. It was going to be a mad dash to get on the bus. I was happy because we were going to get on. Then out of the blue on our right an elderly couple started a third line. I couldn't believe the nerve. This got to me and I was determined that they were not getting on first. When the bus opened the doors I bolted on the bus first. I didn't care what it looked like.

 

[85glht]

I use a "cough method." I do my best to sound as bad as possible with a persistent fake cough when people try to crowd or push me to the side. Try it. It stops people in their tracks. They will give you wide berth.

Brilliant! I must remember this when rude people are near me.

 

[marikujawa]

My favorite related story - we were staying at one of the value resorts that didn't have the chain queue for the AK bus. We had just missed the last bus and we were first in line. After a few minutes for some reason a second line had started on our left. It was going to be a mad dash to get on the bus. I was happy because we were going to get on. Then out of the blue on our right an elderly couple started a third line. I couldn't believe the nerve. This got to me and I was determined that they were not getting on first. When the bus opened the doors I bolted on the bus first. I didn't care what it looked like.

You probably didn't have to "bolt" to beat out the elderly couple lol. They generally move pretty slowly due to their advanced age.

 

[Sir Saint]

You probably didn't have to "bolt" to beat out the elderly couple lol. They generally move pretty slowly due to their advanced age.

But I'm an elderly person too!!!! hahahaha

 

[marikujawa]

But I'm an elderly person too!!!! hahahaha

Me too! And I've also retained my ability to bolt. I guess it's every grandma for herself at Disney!

 

[Madhead22]

We recently got back from Lancaster pa theater in which parents with unruly children were asked to leave general and go to what's called a family room until or when the child behaves , wdw should do this for adults as well

 

[maxiesmom]

I will admit to getting frustrated by people who walk slooooowly thru the lines. If 30 people can pass by you, you may need to pick up the pace. And if it is someplace like the Haunted Mansion where the queue is wide and there is no single file line, then expect to get passed.

Now if you are standing in line, and someone has to shove you to get ahead of you, that is something else.

 

[FortForever]

I've never experienced any actual line cutters, but I'm really chill about letting people go ahead of us NOW. I haven't always been like this, but living in Florida with annual passes, and getting to visit whenever we want, has made it a much more pleasant experience for us. If a line is merging, we will always let the others go first, as this may be a once in a lifetime trip for them.

Viewing every other guest as "us" when we were coming from the north, spending thousands of dollars, and having a very limited time to experience everything has had a hugely positive impact on our good time. I know not everyone can take this approach because they are the ones with limited time, trying to get the most for their money.

What I really don't like is when people rub up against me in lines. I just let these people go around me. Personal space is important to me, although I know we have to give some of this up in lines. Actually touching me, repeatedly, is just unacceptable. It can happen once by accident, but the ongoing rubbing ... nope. More often than not, the offenders are not Americans. I try to remember that other cultures have much different norms than us, and be nice.

Having said all of this, I do have a problem with parades, especially if I have grandchildren with me. We always stake out a spot to watch and are in the front. It never fails that people will show up while the parade is in progress and push their way to the front. I've never been able to completely relax and enjoy a parade because I have to spend the entire time on guard, protecting my grandchildren from being trampled to death. I would sit down, so others could see better, but just leaves me vulnerable and we would quickly be injured and lose our spot.

 

[cindyfan]

Where are the cast members? Aren't they supposed to be making sure lines are being managed in a sound manner?

This really made me LOL!!

 

[piccolopat]

Oh yeah I did have a bad experience at Mickey's Philharmagic, first with people not listening to the CMs about the waiting room and moving all the way down and filling in space and then people just deciding to stop halfway down the row.

Unfortunately I can be a bit of a klutz. When I have to go by people who stop in the middle, I inevitably end up stepping on toes. Of course I apologize as I go past.

 

[k5thbeatle]

This morning, I had an early ADR for Akershus. After breakfast, I got on the FEA line at about 9:02, and there were about 8 people in front of me. All of a sudden, the crowd comes and just pushes their way in. Before I knew it, there was like 30 people in front of me now. I know you want to get on the ride early, but jeez.

It seems to be how people are these days? It's sad, but I see it more and more. Similar thing; we were at baseball game sitting in our seats and I reached down to grab my drink and suddenly I had someone crawling over the top of me stepping on my foot (my big toe still has the cut healing). No "excuse me" or "may I get in" just pushing their way in, and no "sorry" when I hollered aloud when my foot was stepped on? I would have happily made way for them, as I always do had I seen them coming. But it seems to be the way it is nowadays?

Remember when there were no adrs, and people didn't plan every waking second? I miss the good old days at WDW.

A HUGE Amen to this!!! Disney=micromanage vacation!

 

[LongLiveRafiki]

It drives me nuts going into any water slide queue that has stairs (both at Disney and elsewhere). I'm in my twenties but I have a bad hip and can't step up on stairs with my left leg. I'm not horribly slow, but I can't run up the steps. When there's an obvious wait at the top, there's no excuse for people rushing past someone who happens to be a little slower on the stairs just to essentially cut in line. I actually fell down the stairs at Summit Plummet several years ago when a large group of adults pushed past me from both sides, even though I was holding onto the handrail to walk up the stairs. They shoved through my arm holding the rail as I was mid-step and as they all pushed past, I fell backward down several steps, tumbling to the landing. No one from that group asked if I was okay. A 9 year old boy (I later asked his age) was coming up the steps with his parents and rushed up to me when he saw me fall and asked if I was all right. A few seconds later, his dad caught up and helped me up (I had landed awkwardly on my bad hip and wouldn't have been able to get up without help). The dad then gave me an arm to hold onto while going up the rest of the stairs. He offered to walk me back down, but I figured it would be easier to just go up some more steps and down a slide than down a ton of stairs back to the rest of the park. I couldn't believe the behavior of that group who pushed through, but was incredibly grateful for that boy and his dad.

 

[PlainJane]

It drives me nuts going into any water slide queue that has stairs (both at Disney and elsewhere). I'm in my twenties but I have a bad hip and can't step up on stairs with my left leg. I'm not horribly slow, but I can't run up the steps. When there's an obvious wait at the top, there's no excuse for people rushing past someone who happens to be a little slower on the stairs just to essentially cut in line. I actually fell down the stairs at Summit Plummet several years ago when a large group of adults pushed past me from both sides, even though I was holding onto the handrail to walk up the stairs. They shoved through my arm holding the rail as I was mid-step and as they all pushed past, I fell backward down several steps, tumbling to the landing. No one from that group asked if I was okay. A 9 year old boy (I later asked his age) was coming up the steps with his parents and rushed up to me when he saw me fall and asked if I was all right. A few seconds later, his dad caught up and helped me up (I had landed awkwardly on my bad hip and wouldn't have been able to get up without help). The dad then gave me an arm to hold onto while going up the rest of the stairs. He offered to walk me back down, but I figured it would be easier to just go up some more steps and down a slide than down a ton of stairs back to the rest of the park. I couldn't believe the behavior of that group who pushed through, but was incredibly grateful for that boy and his dad.

My mother walks with a cane. There is sometimes pressure in lines from those behind us. Like you said, most of the time it's silly because there is a line in front of us. I think people just want to rationalize their rude behavior.

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience.

 

[srwarden1928]

Unfortunately I can be a bit of a klutz. When I have to go by people who stop in the middle, I inevitably end up stepping on toes. Of course I apologize as I go past.

Once after DW and I crawled over the people who stopped in the middle of the row, DW happened to sit in the last open seat, and I accidentally sat in the lap of the person next to her. I jumped up and said something about her slipping into the seat next to my wife before I could sit down, and she slunked away.

 

[danikoski]

My mother walks with a cane. There is sometimes pressure in lines from those behind us. Like you said, most of the time it's silly because there is a line in front of us. I think people just want to rationalize their rude behavior.

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience.

Those canes can be used a a deterrent. I'm pretty sure my grandma used her cane to stop people cutting front of her in lines at the store and such, and I know as a grandchild, I got an occasional prod from the cane when I wasn't behaving (just a poke to get my attention). So don't underestimate the folks with a cane