People are insane!

This is interesting. Having now been briefly to both US parks my personal experience was worse at WDW. Got cut in front of and shoved multiple times there. at DL I was shoved once (into a trashcan unfortunately) but the entire family was rude. I let them in front of me where they proceeded to continue being loud & letting their kids do whatever they wanted. In another line I let a woman with a kid that kept kicking me in front of me, and as she was holding another child and I asked if there were just the three of them. She said yes, but took another adult with her. Finally, a mom sat in front of me with her kids last minute before the parade. There were a several instances of someone trying to move up a line to rejoin their party (presumably) but I'm ok with that if they're civil. WDW was just much worse. I tend to let rude, pushy, and overly loud people ahead of me, which I hate because it rewards the behavior- but the reality is one person isn't going to change them. The strollers seemed more lethal at DL though. I was nervous to go to DL after my WDW experience but I loved it so much more overall. Way more positive vibe and nicer crowds (likely because it was predominantly locals). We got shoved and kicked much less. Wish people could just respect each other- especially in a place like what those parks were intended to be. I just try to be as kind and patient as possible and practice breathing methods. The selfishness and complete disregard for everyone else some people exhibit truly baffles me though.
 
It drives me nuts going into any water slide queue that has stairs (both at Disney and elsewhere). I'm in my twenties but I have a bad hip and can't step up on stairs with my left leg. I'm not horribly slow, but I can't run up the steps. When there's an obvious wait at the top, there's no excuse for people rushing past someone who happens to be a little slower on the stairs just to essentially cut in line. I actually fell down the stairs at Summit Plummet several years ago when a large group of adults pushed past me from both sides, even though I was holding onto the handrail to walk up the stairs. They shoved through my arm holding the rail as I was mid-step and as they all pushed past, I fell backward down several steps, tumbling to the landing. No one from that group asked if I was okay. A 9 year old boy (I later asked his age) was coming up the steps with his parents and rushed up to me when he saw me fall and asked if I was all right. A few seconds later, his dad caught up and helped me up (I had landed awkwardly on my bad hip and wouldn't have been able to get up without help). The dad then gave me an arm to hold onto while going up the rest of the stairs. He offered to walk me back down, but I figured it would be easier to just go up some more steps and down a slide than down a ton of stairs back to the rest of the park. I couldn't believe the behavior of that group who pushed through, but was incredibly grateful for that boy and his dad.
A horrible and scary thing you suffered !
I gasped when I read you fell

Some peeps are rude as they caused you to lose your footing and then you have strangers that care and want to help
Glad you ended up being okay after the fall
 
I'm glad I am big and my camera backpack is quite a weapon. I do not get pushed often because I will push back. When a bunch of people want to move up to their 1 family member up front, I offer to make room for that one to come back to them. I have seen how Busch Gardens has managed this. It is quite worthy. They escort the people back to the entrance, make a note on their system with their tickets they were escorted out, and then let them re-enter. If they mess up again the ticket is voided.

This is not just at rides. It happens at resorts on buses. There were about 30 people waiting for the bus, Ole Gus and Gert thought they could just go straight to the front and push their way on. Well, they did. I took it upon myself to stand in front of them where they sat because it was standing room only. A heavy backpack does wonders when it hits people. Another nice gentleman was in front of them on the other side. We both agreed that we would make sure they got to wait for everyone to exit before they could. Old Gus tried to get up once, but was quickly assured there was no room for him to stand.

Disney just goes with the "We don't really care" attitude to avoid confrontation.
 
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I will admit to getting frustrated by people who walk slooooowly thru the lines. If 30 people can pass by you, you may need to pick up the pace. And if it is someplace like the Haunted Mansion where the queue is wide and there is no single file line, then expect to get passed.

Now if you are standing in line, and someone has to shove you to get ahead of you, that is something else.
I have walked past so many people at the Haunted Mansion & they were all shocked - SHOCKED! I rode it solo once, walked ahead of a couple that couldn't follow instructions & the miserable woman complained about me all the way from the line entrance to the stretching room. I smiled and waved at her and she refused to make eye contact. I don't understand passive aggressive people. I did have fun recording her complaining to send to my friends & family because I thought it was so funny. You can actually hear the CM on the recording saying, "THIS IS NOT A SINGLE FILE LINE." She still didn't get it. She thought even the section right outside the door was a single file line. I guess someone was not having a very magical day.
 

We had this happen on test track. A teen girl asked if she could move ahead to meet up with her family. After we let her through about 20 other teens pushed through us knocking my 4 year old son over and before I could get to him another stepped on his leg... leaving him crying and with a nasty bruise... now we use our better judgement. We can pretty much judge what 1 person especially with a little one had to get out of line for an emergency potty break and what 'guests' just use it as an excuse to cut.

People like that ruin it for the rest of us.

A couple of years ago, my sister left the line with DD6 to take her to the potty at SDMT. People blocked her and refused to let her back through to rejoin us. My dad, DD4 and I had to get out of line to meet with her. I complained to the CM, and he gave us paper fast passes to go right through. I was so angry, it was clear she had left the line to take DD to the potty but people were being jerks about letting them back with us.
 
People like that ruin it for the rest of us.

A couple of years ago, my sister left the line with DD6 to take her to the potty at SDMT. People blocked her and refused to let her back through to rejoin us. My dad, DD4 and I had to get out of line to meet with her. I complained to the CM, and he gave us paper fast passes to go right through. I was so angry, it was clear she had left the line to take DD to the potty but people were being jerks about letting them back with us.
There are actually people on the board who think toddlers & preschoolers always know in advance when they need to use the bathroom, will say "yes" when you ask them if they need to go, & you should PLAN AHEAD!!! So, you should not be allowed to rejoin a line after taking your child to the bathroom.

I think those people have never had toddlers or are just ridiculous in general.
 
I don't understand how people can be so mean at times

Many a parent has to do restroom
runs when the kids are little

I'd let anyone back in who needed to use the restroom, not just little kids. But when we took littles, once we left the line we were out. I wasn't comfortable pushing past people to try to get back to "our" spot.
 
I'd let anyone back in who needed to use the restroom, not just little kids. But when we took littles, once we left the line we were out. I wasn't comfortable pushing past people to try to get back to "our" spot.
It was 2014, and SDMT had just opened. We stayed offsite and had no fast pass for it. We had been in line for a good 40 min at that point.
Usually, I would agree with you, but it IS allowed and we had already wasted 3 hours (hours!) waiting to meet Anna & Elsa. The girls desperately wanted to and I didn't know how long it would be til we came back. I couldn't disappoint them.
 
One bit of advice my dad always gave me for old people and kids...never pass up on a bathroom and never trust a fart. If a queue shows more than 20 minutes, kids should be taken to the bathroom before getting in line. I have no issue with someone going out for a potty break. I have seen 2 people leave with one kid, then come back with 3 adults and 4 kids.
 
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One bit of advice my dad always gave me for old people and kids...never pass up on a bathroom and never trust a fart. If a queue shows more than 20 minutes, kids should be taken to the bathroom before getting in line. I have no issue with someone going out for a potty break. I have seen a 2 people leave with one kid, then come back with 3 adults and 4 kids.
I absolutely agree with you, but as a mother to a three year old I can tell you that just because you take them to the bathroom before getting in a line, it does not mean that the toddler will actually use the rest room. You can make them try, but you can't make them go. It happens.
 
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On my last trip I had a bad experience with an "off the clock" CM. My mom, my 2 kids in the stroller and another family with 2 older children were waiting for the monorail at Epcot. My mom and I were waiting to the right and the other family was waiting to the left so we could enter and sit on that side in the monorail. As soon as the door opened for us, a woman pushed her way through the middle of us and sat right down in the monorail. She was clearly wearing some sort of uniform but no name tag. The CM attending the monorail saw the whole thing and reprimanded her right then and there. He told her that the seats were for the guests and that if he ever saw that behavior again he would report her. She said she was tired from working all day and that her feet hurt. It was an awkward monorail ride, to say the least!
 
It was 2014, and SDMT had just opened. We stayed offsite and had no fast pass for it. We had been in line for a good 40 min at that point.
Usually, I would agree with you, but it IS allowed and we had already wasted 3 hours (hours!) waiting to meet Anna & Elsa. The girls desperately wanted to and I didn't know how long it would be til we came back. I couldn't disappoint them.

Umm, I said I'd let anyone back in. Not that I would try and block them. I give you props for waiting for anything for 3 hours!
 
New Disney sign outside rides:

1. When you first join, or f you leave the line and return, you must join at the end.
2. If you have to go to the bathroom, see rule 1
3. If you are joining others in your group already in line, see rule 1
4. If your child must go to the bathroom, see rule 1
5. If some of the people in line agree to move to let you jump ahead, see rule 1
6. If you see friends in line and want to join them, see rule 1
7. If you are just rude, see rule 1
8. If you think you really nice and have a special case that makes sense and deserves an exception, see rule 1
 
New Disney sign outside rides:

1. When you first join, or f you leave the line and return, you must join at the end.
2. If you have to go to the bathroom, see rule 1
3. If you are joining others in your group already in line, see rule 1
4. If your child must go to the bathroom, see rule 1
5. If some of the people in line agree to move to let you jump ahead, see rule 1
6. If you see friends in line and want to join them, see rule 1
7. If you are just rude, see rule 1
8. If you think you really nice and have a special case that makes sense and deserves an exception, see rule 1

Funny how other amusement parks don't need a sign. They just boot you if they see you try and cut into the line. It doesn't matter if you were in it to start with or not.
 
I'd let anyone back in who needed to use the restroom, not just little kids. But when we took littles, once we left the line we were out. I wasn't comfortable pushing past people to try to get back to "our" spot.
This is us for the most part. If you are sooooo needy that you need to jump the line, I am not going to stop you. On rides like the Haunted Mansion, particularly when you get out of the stretching room, We make sure we are all holding hands so that when we DO get to the single file part, we are together. We don't SHOVE our way but we do make sure we are moving forward as much as possible.

If we leave the line for (almost) any reason.... if we come back, we go to the end. That's it... no if's and's or buts. If the situation for us leaving the line warranted it, we MIGHT go to a CM and ask for a Fastpass. It's amazing what you can do if you just ASK!

As an example of "Asking" we were in line for my DD11 to see tinkerbell. The Wait was 20 minutes. The line didn't move for 25 of it. They eventually came out and gave everyone a paper fastpass to comeback and see Tinkerbell any (one) time in the next 72 hours as there was an issue (probably got sick or something). Well, we were leaving that afternoon. I went to Customer Service and asked them if they could convert it to an ANY Ride Fastpass (explaining that we waited and that we would be leaving soon. "No problem" they said, and like "Magic" we had a use anywhere/time (that day) Fastpass.
 
We've never had to deal with blatant line cutters. I've had the occasional mom with toddler rejoining the family up ahead, but nothing bad. 30+ trips. Hoping to keep the streak alive!
 
We had this happen at Epcot RD. We filed into the Soarin line and watched about 12 people join someone at the front. They sprinted down the FP lane and jumped the bar. CM just let them and then got tough with ME when I asked why they let them do it. I will never RD at FW again. It's a pain.
 














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