We had them in our old house and after a year we hated them. The subfloor was in really bad shape and the nails started showing through...etc. When we moved, we redid all that to sell the house and then we learned how to lay ceramic tile LOL We've done ceramic tile in both of our bathrooms at our new house....as well as our tub surround. My husband is a patient handy man though....I'm the one that gets flustered and quits LOL