Park etiquette

[mesaboy2]

Chivalry is nasty. Search online to find out how bad it truly was. Sexist, warmongering power-hungry quasi-religious men trying to control others.

I'd rather be a woman with rights than a piece of property, thank you.

OP, I've traveled on the public transport system in Boston many times - WDW can be the same, as you will find nice people and not-so-nice people in both places. It is what you make of it.

Oh, and I've seen both men and women give up seats to others.

Amazing how a single word in a clearly well-meaning post can be taken so wildly out of context. May I recommend investigating the difference between a forest and a tree, or will that suggestion now somehow be turned into an explanation about how all men, uh, stink?

 

[mom2rtk]

Chivalry is nasty. Search online to find out how bad it truly was. Sexist, warmongering power-hungry quasi-religious men trying to control others.

I'd rather be a woman with rights than a piece of property, thank you.

OP, I've traveled on the public transport system in Boston many times - WDW can be the same, as you will find nice people and not-so-nice people in both places. It is what you make of it.

Oh, and I've seen both men and women give up seats to others.

Wow. Just wow.

So how bad that it makes me smile when a man offers me his seat or holds the door. Does that make me a piece of property?

Yikes.

 

[Schmeck]

Amazing how a single word in a clearly well-meaning post can be taken so wildly out of context. May I recommend investigating the difference between a forest and a tree, or will that suggestion now somehow be turned into an explanation about how all men, uh, stink?

I was comparing the phrase 'chivalry is not dead', which is more than a single word, and has a meaning that offends me. I refuse to be considered less than a man. The poster also insinuated that only 'gentlemen' would give up a seat to someone else. The archaic notion that women are weaker and inferior to men, combined with the fact that men start most wars on this planet, makes chivalry a really nasty thing. It was based on having wars to rob 'infidels' to gain wealth for the church, and insisted that women were too stupid to own/control property or wealth.

So, yes, as a woman, I take offense that giving up a seat, to be polite, is somehow chivalrous.

 

[mesaboy2]

I was comparing the phrase 'chivalry is not dead', which is more than a single word, and has a meaning that offends me. I refuse to be considered less than a man. The poster also insinuated that only 'gentlemen' would give up a seat to someone else. The archaic notion that women are weaker and inferior to men, combined with the fact that men start most wars on this planet, makes chivalry a really nasty thing. It was based on having wars to rob 'infidels' to gain wealth for the church, and insisted that women were too stupid to own/control property or wealth.

So, yes, as a woman, I take offense that giving up a seat, to be polite, is somehow chivalrous.

No kidding. I need to go modify my profile now.

 

[Dsnyfireman]

Really ?!! This is where this thread is going? Anyone who thinks that someone giving up their seat or opening a door for someone has anything to do with warmongering or being sexist or a woman as property is rather ignorant! I have given up my seat for elderly or disabled men too so not sure how that plays into your ideas but just let it be!!! Just let us know and we won't do a damn think for you so we don't insult you ok.

 

[doggydoc]

No kidding. I need to go modify my profile now.

I find it easier to just use the old IGNORE function on people with such obvious need to be an agitator. If you try to modify your behavior to suit them you'll find it a losing battle.

 

[Danibelle]

No kidding. I need to go modify my profile now.

Great idea!!

 

[ttintagel]

Hey, it's Words Mean The Same Thing They Did In The Thirteenth Century Week! These Limited Time Magic events are getting more and more obscure. I hope there's a cool ear hat for it.

 

[mesaboy2]

I find it easier to just use the old IGNORE function on people with such obvious need to be an agitator. If you try to modify your behavior to suit them you'll find it a losing battle.

Oh, I did exactly that--that's what I meant.

 

[WDW in Pearls]

Speaking of unpleasant people you wouldn't want to encounter in WDW!!

Lol...I had to.

 

[doggydoc]

Oh, I did exactly that--that's what I meant.

Aaah should have caught that one!

 

[monorailrabbit]

Oh this thread just got good!

 

[WDW in Pearls]

Oh this thread just got good!

I feel like every thread seeking advice ALWAYS ends this way!

 

[mistysue]

I have found that the rudest bus situations we have been on have been going to and from deluxe resorts. I mostly attribute it to the stress of there not being a formed line. That thing where a bus rolls up and everybody jumps at it is frustrating. It also creates this awkward effect where you have all of the people with strollers being pushed to the back. We were on a bus leaving the yacht club once where there were maybe a dozen people standing, three of which were holding strollers as they stood there with little kids... Maybe everybody sitting needed to sit and couldn't stand but I think it's unlikely.

When we've stayed at POP people were crazy friendly on the busses and our CSR experience was good too without the formed lines.

Worst bus ever was the time we were headed to the contemporary with my nearly 2 year old crying. There was actually a bus wide conversation about how nobody could believe I was on the bus with a crying kid, and how none of their kids ever cried in public. I felt like I was stuck in a bad nightmare. When the bus arrived one man actually stood up and yelled "finally!" I had tears streaming down my face by the time I got off the bus because people were being so rude to us and it was like none of them cared if they noticed at all. I would have gotten it if he were really loud, but he wasn't even a bad crier and I was trying to calm him down. We were on our way to lunch and he decided he was hungry "right now" just after getting on.

 

[HubbDave]

I do think the lack of a que thingy makes people uncomfortable...many folks don't really remember how to be polite.

I think it is really random, though. Plenty of nice folks of all backgrounds, socioeconomic groups, etc. A few jerks, too.

And since when is offering a seat to anyone offensive???

 

[tjmj9801]

Worst bus ever was the time we were headed to the contemporary with my nearly 2 year old crying. There was actually a bus wide conversation about how nobody could believe I was on the bus with a crying kid, and how none of their kids ever cried in public. I felt like I was stuck in a bad nightmare. When the bus arrived one man actually stood up and yelled "finally!" I had tears streaming down my face by the time I got off the bus because people were being so rude to us and it was like none of them cared if they noticed at all. I would have gotten it if he were really loud, but he wasn't even a bad crier and I was trying to calm him down. We were on our way to lunch and he decided he was hungry "right now" just after getting on.

Wait...what?!? How heartless!! He's just a hungry baby! I'm so sorry. I've never had anyone even acknowledge if one of our girls were upset, except for a "been there" smile from another mom.

 

[WDW in Pearls]

I do think the lack of a que thingy makes people uncomfortable...many folks don't really remember how to be polite.

I think it is really random, though. Plenty of nice folks of all backgrounds, socioeconomic groups, etc. A few jerks, too.

And since when is offering a seat to anyone offensive???

It's the evil men trying to keep us down!

My boyfriend makes countless sacrifices for me to work on my Masters, cooks for me when I work late and encourages me to do what's best for my career (which will result in me eventually making more money than him)...but he opens doors for me!! HELP!! I'M BEING OPPRESSED!!

 

[Teacher Princess]

May I direct you to the Unruly Mexican Children post?

Wow just wow..

 

[amfie928]

Hey, it's Words Mean The Same Thing They Did In The Thirteenth Century Week! These Limited Time Magic events are getting more and more obscure. I hope there's a cool ear hat for it.

OMG I laughed out loud at this! And is your name a reference to the "epitomy"of knights in shining armor and chivalry?

And I am female and have given up seats on busses. Am I to be considered a warmongering pig? I was taught its polite to offer a seat to others as well as holding doors open for others behind you. I will gladly say my actions were chivalrous!

Honestly OP you will find good and bad behavior as you would anywhere. I find most people to be polite although have come across others at WDW who behave rudely. For the most part I ignore it except for the gentleman who nearly knocked over my 70 yr old mother in line at POC. When I said something he "pretended" he didn't speak English but he was conversing with his kids in English just moments before!

 

[Sphinx610]

I grew up using the Philadelphia transportation system, and used it every day to get to my high school.

The first time I went to Disney I was all ready to get all South Philly Millie on anyone who was rude on the Disney buses, but it never happened. Yeah, people would crowd the buses and I'd have to push my way in, but everyone was usually pleasant and ready to let me get by. Boy, was I surprised, but I soon got used to it as part of the magic.

Lmao! South Philly Millie! I know what you are talking about- spent a big part of my life in Philly! Grew up on the jersey side tho so public trans was my friend.

I will agree people are much happier just bc they are in WDW. I'm one of them... I've never had a problem on a bus in WDW. Not like the big cities of the NOrthEast. They is a jerk here and there but overall people are cool.