Park etiquette

[Schmeck]

Really ?!! This is where this thread is going? Anyone who thinks that someone giving up their seat or opening a door for someone has anything to do with warmongering or being sexist or a woman as property is rather ignorant! I have given up my seat for elderly or disabled men too so not sure how that plays into your ideas but just let it be!!! Just let us know and we won't do a damn think for you so we don't insult you ok.

No, just pointing out that using the word chivalry was offensive - not being a polite human being. There are other offensive terms people use without understanding the meaning as well, but I won't list them here.

 

[mom2rtk]

I think it's interesting that the value resorts seem to be the only ones with roped queues for their buses. Not sure if the designers just expected the deluxe resorts to have better manners and be able to handle queue-less waiting? I never used to really "get" these bus threads since we typically stay at a value resort so have always just gotten in line and never seen a free for all.

 

[amzking]

I only got through the first page and had to post. I just have to say, I am so glad I live in the friendly South! I cannot IMAGINE getting yelled and cursed at for accidentally bumping into someone or having some sort of "excuse me" moment. The very few times I have seen that here I have been shocked. And I have an sutistic teenager so it happens with regularity despite my best efforts. A friendly smile, with an "Excuse me", or "So sorry!" goes a long way here indeed. Maybe it's a southern thing, or maybe it's a smaller-city thing, but either way I am happy to live here! It's not just at Disney!

 

[FortForever]

No, just pointing out that using the word chivalry was offensive

Chivalry is not offensive. It means courtesy or valor. When people start getting offended by those trying to treat each other right, we are all doomed.

I think it's interesting that the value resorts seem to be the only ones with roped queues for their buses. Not sure if the designers just expected the deluxe resorts to have better manners and be able to handle queue-less waiting? I never used to really "get" these bus threads since we typically stay at a value resort so have always just gotten in line and never seen a free for all.

It's because the value resorts only have one bus stop for many people. The pricier resorts have multiple bus stops located conveniently close to everyone's building. Since only a handful of people use each stop, and those are staggered, no need for a queue.

When I mentioned earlier that lines were queued up, I was talking about at the parks. That is where you have a mass movement of quests at certain times and would have a mob scene without the lines. Generally people leave their resorts at various times, going various places, so it's much more manageable heading out.

ETA: I have stayed at deluxe and moderate all my life until January of this year and have never seen a problem at a bus stop. Just guessing, I would say the most people I've ever seen at one is between 10 and 15. Loading was orderly and polite. Never a problem. I was surprised to see the queue when I stayed at at my first value, but quickly realized it was the only bus stop for the entire resort so made sense. Even so, I've been to values four times this year and have not seen more than a handful of people in any line. The only full buses were the ones unloading.

I am so glad I live in the friendly South! I cannot IMAGINE getting yelled and cursed at for accidentally bumping into someone or having some sort of "excuse me" moment.

Me too! And as a transplant from the north, I can tell you there is a huge difference. People here in my small FL town generally treat each other like family, even if they don't know each other. A much nicer place to raise kids.

 

[MET270]

I was comparing the phrase 'chivalry is not dead', which is more than a single word, and has a meaning that offends me. I refuse to be considered less than a man. The poster also insinuated that only 'gentlemen' would give up a seat to someone else. The archaic notion that women are weaker and inferior to men, combined with the fact that men start most wars on this planet, makes chivalry a really nasty thing. It was based on having wars to rob 'infidels' to gain wealth for the church, and insisted that women were too stupid to own/control property or wealth.

So, yes, as a woman, I take offense that giving up a seat, to be polite, is somehow chivalrous.

Pretty sure that is not what he meant at all. Lighten up, this is a discussion board about Disney, not the oppression of women throughout history.

 

[OklahomaTourist]

The only real issue I've had with rudeness and busses was last June at POR. Everyone was standing around and sitting on benches waiting for the bus to MK. As it pulled up, basically a mob approached it. One older man apparently felt I had cut him somehow. He grabbed me by both shoulders from behind and yanked me back while saying something about how I needed to wait my turn. I have no idea whether or not this man was at the stop before me but I told him to take his hands off me. He and his wife shot me Nasty looks on the bus the whole drive to the MK.

Your response was great!

When someone starts grabbing and forcibly moving other people, you start wandering perilously close to the notion of assault. I don't care how inconsiderate or irritating the person in front of me might have been, there's no way I'd ever put my hands on another person in that scenario and shove, move, or in some other way physically redirect them somewhere else. That's asking for trouble. Heck, supposing the "shovee" had a bad temper and smacked the "shover" in the mouth (or worse), for heavens sake!?

Bad scenario all the way around. Kudos for keeping your cool!

 

[BeerMe]

the DIS needs "like" buttons!

 

[Ariel Wanna-be]

As an independent-minded, fully-liberated, free-thinking southern female, I can honestly say that I absolutely LOVE chivalry. I do NOT find it offensive, repressive, oppressive, misogynistic, or insulting. Nor do I take it as an inference that I am the property of whatever male happens to be holding the door open for me.

I find it to be courteous, polite, and respectful, and I fully appreciate the intentions of the fabulous men who practice it.

My DH and DS15 hold doors, give up their seats, let ladies go first, and say "ma'am." Please be aware that they are doing so out of their utmost respect for the female sex, and have no closet "caveman" motivations behind their actions. So please, if you are offended by them offering you their seat, just smile and say "no, thanks." No need to get your panties in a bunch.

And to all chivalrous men out there (southern or not) - a big, heartfelt THANK YOU.

.

 

[smidgy]

Me too! And as a transplant from the north, I can tell you there is a huge difference. People here in my small FL town generally treat each other like family, even if they don't know each other. A much nicer place to raise kids.

DOH! the "old" people from the south are "nicer" more polite, etc etc argument.

Chicago has the nicest, friendliest people you will find! let's keep this thread on topic please. every area of the country has nice people and rude people.

at the mod or deluxe resorts, some people kinda stand near the loading area semi lined up.. some choose to sit on a vench set back (there are set back benches at the values, too, outside the roped queues) I kinda think those sitting back aren't standing "in line". and as said previously, there is seldom a time at the resort where they won't all fit on the bus anyway. I've stayed at all 4 moderates and 6 of the deluxes and never seen a problem.

 

[ttintagel]

I've only stayed at a Moderate resort once, and it was the relatively small POFQ, so this may not be the typical experience. Although there wasn't a switchback to line up for the bus, there were never so many people waiting at one time that you wouldn't get on if a more recent arrival boarded ahead of you. The only times we ended up waiting for the next one was when all the wheelchair spots were taken, and this was during the busy summer months.

 

[amberpi]

For the PP who was manhandled by another guest - you should have filed charges. No one would touch me like that without serious consequences and I'm sorry you had to experience that. What a mean person!

I was mowed down by a lady with a stroller at MK - knocked on my knees with both bleeding, mowed down, and once my DH was assured of my safety, he definitely confronted the lady who never stopped, said I'm sorry or anything, when I went down right in front of her - she literally had to go around me on the ground once she took out my heel. She still didn't apologize - and this happened in front of my BIL, SIL and nephew. What is she teaching her kids to plow someone over and not even say sorry or anything and I walk at a sharp clip! That was my worst WDW experience and probably my worst travel experience (outside of delays and being pooped on my the royal ravens at the Tower of London - yeah, that happened) and I flew 50+ domestic flights last year. In short - HOW RUDE OTOH, in 30+ adult trips over 13 years, I guess that's really a decent average!

We've had issues with hottub hoggers, line cutters during F&W but we've never had issues with the busses and we only stay at the Deluxe resorts or Swolphin...MK is where I've seen the most bad behavior from guests, the rest has been annoying but just drunk people at Epcot (never a mean drunk! and I'm sure I've been over the legal limit there myself, just not pick me up off the floor), stupid behavior from other diners at nicer restaurants, ya know, stuff that happens in the real world too. Which is the overarching moral to this too long story, stuff happens at WDW, stuff happens anywhere, you're in WDW, you'll have a great time!

 

[North of Mouse]

I only got through the first page and had to post. I just have to say, I am so glad I live in the friendly South! I cannot IMAGINE getting yelled and cursed at for accidentally bumping into someone or having some sort of "excuse me" moment. The very few times I have seen that here I have been shocked. And I have an sutistic teenager so it happens with regularity despite my best efforts. A friendly smile, with an "Excuse me", or "So sorry!" goes a long way here indeed. Maybe it's a southern thing, or maybe it's a smaller-city thing, but either way I am happy to live here! It's not just at Disney!

Yes, happy to be a southern girl myself.

 

[North of Mouse]

DOH! the "old" people from the south are "nicer" more polite, etc etc argument.

Chicago has the nicest, friendliest people you will find! let's keep this thread on topic please. every area of the country has nice people and rude people..

If you believe that, try riding public transportation down south, versus riding it in Chicago/elsewhere up north. I had to live up north for awhile and there *was* a big difference! I actually was shocked!

 

[Cyrano]

Folks this thread has been tidied. Please continue to be respectful of all nationalities and thus posts that are curt will be removed and possibly lead to the thread being closed.

 

[scaudelle]

as an independent-minded, fully-liberated, free-thinking southern female, i can honestly say that i absolutely love chivalry. I do not find it offensive, repressive, oppressive, misogynistic, or insulting. Nor do i take it as an inference that i am the property of whatever male happens to be holding the door open for me.

I find it to be courteous, polite, and respectful, and i fully appreciate the intentions of the fabulous men who practice it.

My dh and ds15 hold doors, give up their seats, let ladies go first, and say "ma'am." please be aware that they are doing so out of their utmost respect for the female sex, and have no closet "caveman" motivations behind their actions. So please, if you are offended by them offering you their seat, just smile and say "no, thanks." no need to get your panties in a bunch.

and to all chivalrous men out there (southern or not) - a big, heartfelt thank you.

.

i agree!!!

 

[wishing4PA]

ETA: I have stayed at deluxe and moderate all my life until January of this year and have never seen a problem at a bus stop. Just guessing, I would say the most people I've ever seen at one is between 10 and 15. Loading was orderly and polite. Never a problem.

This reminded me of the moment we were walking from the Contemporary to MK. We were walking past the bus stop when I and everyone else around realized a bus was coming. I told my kid to hurry up, and our group hustled out of the way toward the MK as quickly as possible to keep out of everyone's way. I had to laugh when some lady mumbled something about pushy people and I realized she thought we were trying to beat her to the front of the bus line!

 

[LucyBC80]

I stayed at POFQ this past February and never had a problem with the bus stop not being roped off. There were never many folks waiting for an specific bus at any given time so no queueing was necessary. The exception was on a morning EMH to AK which attracted lot of guests; the bus stop was bursting with people and when the first family queued at the marked spot I queued right after them and people started falling into a line after me. No fuss, no "I got here first", just polite people standing in line. The driver did radio for a second bus to come around because the first one was full in a matter of seconds.

 

[momofboyz3]

Folks this thread has been tidied. Please continue to be respectful of all nationalities and thus posts that are curt will be removed and possibly lead to the thread being closed.

I never intended when I started this thread to have any issues w/disrespect whatsoever. I am grateful for all the responses & appreciate all the feedback in preparation for our 1st big trip to WDW!!!!!!! Thanks all!

 

[Polybound]

Folks this thread has been tidied. Please continue to be respectful of all nationalities and thus posts that are curt will be removed and possibly lead to the thread being closed.

Isn't it past your bed time?

 

[wendy1974]

Yelled at for bumping into someone?? Goodness, I must be from another world. We don't deal with much public transportation here either. I'm from Louisiana.

Froggygal1301 I am with you and am more than happy that I'm from Louisiana where it's unheard of to yell at someone because they bump into you. I live in a larger city here so we have public transportation but you won't find the rudeness. I guess we've just been raised to be polite and helpful. Not that people from other parts of the country aren't that way ... you're just more likely to apologize to someone for bumping into them here and get a smile and a "that's alright!" back.