Paid FP options coming soon to WDW?

[0FF TO NEVERLAND]

Can’t we all just hashtag #bringbackfastpassnow and get it trending?

we got the stupid noodles back ( when the meat and skewers were ten times more important imo )

 

[mshanson3121]

On the topic of FP+ and wait times: not sure what I can and can't post without more points being earned , but I will say I did find several articles from between 2014-2017 that confirmed what Oaken is saying, including a couple from Touring Plans. The difference in standby wait times from FP+ was negligible - in fact some rides saw drops in standby wait times, most saw no statistically significant change (+/- 1 minute) and a few attractions saw an increase - but a minimal one (all under 10 minutes). Seems the biggest factor in the increase in wait times is the increase in crowds, along with some other issues such as ride capacity, staffing issues etc...

 

[Heigh-Ho]

FP+ did not significantly increase the waits. Multiple studies were done to prove this. People just tend to believe what they want and not what they see. But yeah, if you think it increased wait times then so be it. I hope they bring it back because I was able to use it effectively and have never waited more than 30 minutes in a line.

Other people also used FP and have their own experiences too and you've typically discounted their experience when this topic of wait times and FP/no FP gets started.

I myself don't want to come across as rude (I truly don't) but I just noticed how you almost go na-na na-na boo-boo (if you'll pardon my almost childish descriptor haha) on posters when talking about FP and wait times. It's okay to discuss everyone's experience but I don't think it's okay to say to people

• People just tend to believe what they want and not what they see. But yeah, if you think it increased wait times then so be it. I hope they bring it back because I was able to use it effectively and have never waited more than 30 minutes in a line.
• It means that you get upset that people are walking past you and you instantly assume that they have just added another 15 - 30 minutes to your wait time.
• I'll keep using FP+ (if it returns) and I will just walk right past the people waiting in the standby lines.

(And that's just this thread).

And I would disagree that you give attitude when you get it because your underlying tone (especially that you know how to use FP better than others which is in nearly every comment you make about FP usage) is in there no matter which poster you're talking with . I think this thread, as long as it's been going on, has been great. I don't think it's an issue at all to keep talking about FP and the effects it may or may not have on ride wait times just maybe in a more polite way A lot of us have a passion and love for Disney, we enjoy going to the parks, we do have that in common

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I don't think it's an issue at all to keep talking about FP and the effects it may or may not have on ride wait times just maybe in a more polite way A lot of us have a passion and love for Disney, we enjoy going to the parks, we do have that in common

This for sure. As the mods have said in the past be mad at Disney not other posters (of course not always easy advice to follow). The argument is something that has been going on for years anyways.

The world has changed like so many other things that we probably should get used to the idea that what we knew/experienced in our past trips (yes including the ones people are doing now during this time period) are likely moot when considering trips in the future (whatever that future is) because they won't be under the same circumstances and the same considerations both Disney makes on an operational standpoint and us as travelers make from an experience standpoint. This should also include how someone considers FP. The FP program and how we experienced may be nothing like it was in the past and how efficiently or perceived non-efficiency we were at it may be completely irrelevant. No one knows but def. we should keep things like that in mind. Obviously Disney brings out the passion in most of us that's for sure

 

[Heather07438]

A lot of us have a passion and love for Disney, we enjoy going to the parks, we do have that in common

This is good I love you all. You’re my kind of people. People who love Disney!

(and complain about the cost later )

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

This is good I love you all. You’re my kind of people. People who love Disney!

(and complain about the cost later )

OMG so true! We have people who have been to Disney before and Universal but usually it's with nonchalance when they talk about it and they def. wouldn't do 8 park days back to back like we do (between WDW and USO). I mean we typically don't go more than every 6 years (2019 both DLR trips was different as my husband was temporarily for 9 months living near Anaheim for work) but dang it if I don't love every minute of being in Disney and Universal.

We have a DISer couple getting married next May actually in Disney (in AK actually) and we'll be there for it...meanwhile I'm sitting here like "okay so we got this reservation system (don't know how to use that yet) and tickets are how much!? and where we going to stay!?" We do know they have blocks of rooms at a Value, Mod and Deluxe (and we know which ones and the price) and we know they are maybe getting discount tickets but they aren't sure (and it's possible I can get cheaper elsewhere) but yeah WDW in 2017 will be different than WDW in 2022 that's for sure lol and even though it would be regardless the pandemic really shook things up. I'm trying to not get too bogged down in the details now because I have zero clue how they will be in 11 months and it didn't used to feel this way. Usually it was "okay when is the next price increase coming" and that was the main uncertainty. But that's also why I popped back into this thread after so long because I figured I probably should at least sorta keep track.

 

[Wandering Oaken]

On the topic of FP+ and wait times: not sure what I can and can't post without more points being earned , but I will say I did find several articles from between 2014-2017 that confirmed what Oaken is saying, including a couple from Touring Plans. The difference in standby wait times from FP+ was negligible - in fact some rides saw drops in standby wait times, most saw no statistically significant change (+/- 1 minute) and a few attractions saw an increase - but a minimal one (all under 10 minutes). Seems the biggest factor in the increase in wait times is the increase in crowds, along with some other issues such as ride capacity, staffing issues etc...

You're never going to convince them of that. You can show them empirical data and proof and they will still hold to their belief system as if it were the last can of food on earth.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

You're never going to convince them of that. You can show them empirical data and proof and they will still hold to their belief system as if it were the last can of food on earth.

Can we not insult each other? Let's just move on in topics

 

[Wandering Oaken]

Can we not insult each other? Let's just move on in topics

I can't help if you feel insulted. I was not trying to insult anyone. I'm stating a complete and honest fact. You're never going to convince some people of the things that they hold true despite facts staring them in the face. That's just the way things are.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I can't help if you feel insulted. I was not trying to insult anyone. I'm stating a complete and honest fact. You're never going to convince some people of the things that they hold true despite facts staring them in the face. That's just the way things are.

I'm not insulted I said let's not insult each other

 

[Heigh-Ho]

So moving on into more pleasant conversation (hopefully) have we found out if that picture of the FP kiosk was a current picture (sorry if I missed it)

 

[Wandering Oaken]

So moving on into more pleasant conversation (hopefully) have we found out if that picture of the FP kiosk was a current picture (sorry if I missed it)

Yes. It was a recent picture. From what I understand they were taken on Monday.

 

[monstermash23]

So moving on into more pleasant conversation (hopefully) have we found out if that picture of the FP kiosk was a current picture (sorry if I missed it)

Yes the ones in MK were recent. I also saw some recent pics today of them being back at an attraction in Epcot too. Of course can’t find the original source right now or remember the ride. But I think these are good signs nonetheless (for FP fans).

 

[erin1715]

Yes there were also a bunch of covered FP machines in Epcot. The Dis has a YouTube series and Fiasco from the Dis did an Epcot walkthrough and showed the machines. I believe they were near the Test Track area.

 

[yaya74]

Recently I emailed WDW Guest Services with a concern about the increasing park capacity and wait-time and the absence of FP+. The reply that I received stated:

Much of the additional spaces and locations throughout our Theme Parks have been adjusted to allow for additional queue space, Relaxation Stations, and other modifications to adhere to current health and safety measures.

A day after I received the reply, I received another email from WDW guest services asking me to rate my satisfaction in regards to the way my concern was addressed. I gave it a thumb down as all of the excuses provided above are no longer legitimate nor relevant. Did the CM really think that I would be convinced by these lame excuses?

 

[New Mouse]

Recently I emailed WDW Guest Services with a concern about the increasing park capacity and wait-time and the absence of FP+. The reply that I received stated:





A day after I received the reply, I received another email from WDW guest services asking me to rate my satisfaction in regards to the way my concern was addressed. I gave it a thumb down as all of the excuses provided above are no longer legitimate nor relevant. Did the CM really think that I would be convinced by these lame excuses?

I dont know, I think their answers have been fairly clear.

We know its more crowded, we know we are offering less and we really dont care.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Recently I emailed WDW Guest Services with a concern about the increasing park capacity and wait-time and the absence of FP+. The reply that I received stated:





A day after I received the reply, I received another email from WDW guest services asking me to rate my satisfaction in regards to the way my concern was addressed. I gave it a thumb down as all of the excuses provided above are no longer legitimate nor relevant. Did the CM really think that I would be convinced by these lame excuses?

It's not the CM's fault ya know. If the survey was asking about the way your concern was addressed that's not the same as asking if you were satisfied (or in your words "convinced by these lame excuses") with the answer given so hopefully the way you responded doesn't hurt the CM's performance

 

[monstermash23]

Recently I emailed WDW Guest Services with a concern about the increasing park capacity and wait-time and the absence of FP+. The reply that I received stated:





A day after I received the reply, I received another email from WDW guest services asking me to rate my satisfaction in regards to the way my concern was addressed. I gave it a thumb down as all of the excuses provided above are no longer legitimate nor relevant. Did the CM really think that I would be convinced by these lame excuses?

I def get the frustration. But I’m sure you’re aware that that was just a canned response and that they don’t have much control over that kind of messaging right?. It’s not like the CM carefully thought through and individualized that message to you regarding your concern. It’s the brass of the company that’s forcing CM’s to relay outdated messaging and be unconvincing messengers here

 

[New Mouse]

It's not the CM's fault ya know. If the survey was asking about the way your concern was addressed that's not the same as asking if you were satisfied (or in your words "convinced by these lame excuses") with the answer given so hopefully the way you responded doesn't hurt the CM's performance

If they cant distinguish from a survey maybe they need to change the survey

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

If they cant distinguish from a survey maybe they need to change the survey

I'm not the person who took the survey but from what the person wrote I personally can tell the difference . Have you never taken a survey before? They guage different things and as such have different ways they impact the employee. Either way this isn't a situation I would take out on the employee, they answered just not the answer the person wanted (understandable) YMMV I suppose.