Overwhelmed with school & really need to vent

Marseeya

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I've mentioned on here before, but a little background: I'm currently working on my masters in secondary ed in language arts. I go to school full time and I also try to stay as involved as possible with my kids' schools. Anyway, this semester's in its third week and I'm tearing my hair out ready to go totally insane!

First of all, I normally take 9 credit hours as a full-time load -- that's 3 classes. Any less and I wouldn't get the amount of financial aid I need. This semester I had to take a 2-credit course, which means I had to take 4 classes in order to be at full time. That 2-credit class is every bit as much work as a 3-credit class! Plus, I have one class -- a children's lit class -- that the teacher has piled an impossible amount of work on us. For me to complain like that, you have to know, it's pretty bad. I'm 38 years old and a straight A student, so I'm definitely not afraid of a little work !!! On Monday, I worked for seven hours on school work, and yesterday I worked six. It's not hard work, it's just a whole lot of time consuming BS busy work. I am facing the same amount of work both today and tomorrow before I can actually take a breather on Friday. Here's what I had to do in a week for this one class... oh, and by the way, it's not actually a graduate level course!!!!!!
  • Read 3 chapters in our main textbook (around 75 pages)
  • Write chapter outlines for those three chapters
  • Read one Newbery award winning book
  • Read one Caldecott award winning book
  • Read 4 "developmentally related" books (age related, picture books or chapter books)
  • Complete a 5x8" index card for each book with info on the book, summary, & analysis
  • Complete 10 5x8" index cards with author biographies
  • Read Charlotte's Web
  • Choose two books for a read aloud

That's all for one class, and I still have a considerable amount of work (reasonable amount) in my other classes! Plus, since I and a few others are in secondary ed, she wants us to read more advanced chapter books... well, that's not the point of us taking the class! We already took a young adult lit class and we want to know about children's books to be able to incorporate them into our secondary classes to perhaps help with slower readers. So, we'll end up having to read the same amount of books as the rest of the class, only novel length books!

Here's another thing that's really frustrating me this semester. I have a couple of classes that mixes grad students with undergrads. The undergrads are actually in a 5-year program where after five years of study, they'll get a bachelors in their subject area, plus a masters in education. Only problem with that is, in PA where I live (I go to school in WV), they don't recognize that as a real masters degree, so I'm actually going for the full 2-3 year masters degree (I already have my bachelors in English). It's nothing against them, but there can sometimes be a pretty huge intellectual divide between us and some of them (certainly not all). Plus there's usually an age difference. They're normally between the ages of 20-22 and most of us are over the age of 25.

In one of my classes, we've been talking a lot about multiculturalism and diversity in the classroom and these kids just don't get it! You should hear the prejudiced BS they spout off about "those kids" (black, poor, foreign, you name it). And for whatever reason, they already have this "us vs them" mentality about parents! OMG (insert cuss words here), if this is their attitude now, imagine them in the classroom. I truly wouldn't want these people teaching my kids and they're going to be out there very very soon! Sooner than me, even.

On top of all this, we had a mono scare with my son his first week of high school, so he missed 4 days of his first week in school. It ended up not being mono, but he was still extremely sick. On top of my own work, I've got to sit and help him do some major catching up. The school was calling every day wanting to know where he was and I can understand that, but one hand never knew what the other was doing, so in one day I spoke with 1) the front office staff, 2) the guidance secretary, 3) the school nurse, and 4) the guidance counselor. Oh, and the school nurse called my DH's cell phone for good measure, pulling him out of a business meeting and royally teeing him off (he's the stepparent and I really only want him called in an emergency... but even with our dd who's his, I don't want him called unless it's urgent!).

AND, my son has a different last name as me (he has my maiden name). This last name is rather, shall I say, notorious. I'm so sick and tired of teachers and administrators ASSuming that my son is related to that group of troublemakers and me having to explain that he's not (this is a small town with a small town attitude). Number one, I shouldn't have to explain -- they should judge him on his own merit. And number two, I'm sick of being treated like a complete moron before they realize they're talking to someone with a brain. I have to bite my tongue on a constant basis because I'm actually hoping to work for this school district in a year and a half. ARGH!!!

If you made it this far, thanks so much for listening while I got all that off my chest. Want a cookie? :earsboy:
 
:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

Going to school full-time while raising kids can't be easy, but it will be worth it in the long run. My mom did her undergrad and M.Ed. when we were young, and she's loved her subsequent teaching career for nearly 20 years. Hang in there, because it DOES get better!
 
Thanks so much, I really need to hear things like that! How old was your mom at that time?
 
Marseeya said:
Thanks so much, I really need to hear things like that! How old was your mom at that time?

I think that she was around 41/42 when she started her undergrad (she had an AA and needed to get her BA or BS degree). That took about 2 years if memory serves me, and then she did her M.Ed. in like 1 year or 18 months. I remember that she had to argue with the school that she COULD do it that quickly, because it was a 2 year program. She got all A's, too! I think that she must have done her student teaching during her M.Ed, and then she got her job the next year. She had to permanent sub. for a year to get her foot in the door, though. She's been there for nearly 20 years now, though, and most people can't believe that this is actually her second career!

BTW, I am now going through our state's accelerated certification program to become a high school math teacher as a 2nd career. I've already got my "Certificate of Eligibility," so now I need to find a job. They aren't easy to come by in my county. My mom has been very supportive, of course :goodvibes
 

I had a teacher like that last term. He thought that his 1 credit class should have as much work as a 4 credit. It drove me insane. My term doesn't start until Sept 26, but just last night I had a dream that I forgot to do my German homework. School hasn't even started and already I am having the "my dog ate my homework" dreams! As for the kids that don't get it, you know that there will be some like that in every class. It's frustrating but what can you do. I ignore them and move on. I wish you lots of luck and pixie dust, and don't worry. You'll get back in the swing of things! :cheer2:
 
I forgot to add that the winners that you mentioned in your classes were in my mom's classes way back when too :rolleyes: She does describe some rather frightening new teachers at her school occasionally, but she hasn't seemed to complain as much about this in recent years. Hopefully those people lose their attitudes when they enter the classroom, because I agree that I wouldn't want people like that teaching my future kids either!
 
:grouphug: :grouphug: It'll all be worth it in the end, I'm sure! Sending you lots of luck! :wizard: :)
 
I did it with 2 kids, working full-time, and completing an MBA

a couple of things I learned

1. Perfection is not an option. Don't over prepare for classes or tests. In fact, I amazingly found that I was able to get A's on many tests without even studying -- just keep up with the homework and stay awake in class and you'll still be ahead of most of the class.

2. You can get an amazing amount of homework done at while waiting for a red light to change.

3. Try your best to combine things and never redo work. Save your all your term papers and work (develop a filing system) -- you can often recycle and tweak them to hand in for another class.

4. Learn how to combine all your tasks - if your kids are young and you have to read Charlotte's Web, guess what tonight's bedtime story is?

5. Whenever possible, take the shortcut. So much of college is bull**** that you just need to get through. Fake it if you have to. I'm sure you've read Charlotte's Web before. If you don't have time to read it again, find a decent summary on the internet and glance through it. Nobody will ever know the difference.

Good Luck. :)
 
ericamanda01 said:
I had a teacher like that last term. He thought that his 1 credit class should have as much work as a 4 credit. It drove me insane. My term doesn't start until Sept 26, but just last night I had a dream that I forgot to do my German homework. School hasn't even started and already I am having the "my dog ate my homework" dreams! As for the kids that don't get it, you know that there will be some like that in every class. It's frustrating but what can you do. I ignore them and move on. I wish you lots of luck and pixie dust, and don't worry. You'll get back in the swing of things! :cheer2:

Oh no, that's awful! Stressing and you're not even there yet. :rotfl: Will you be taking German this term? I think taking a language in college is so difficult. I could focus on that all week long and still not feel like I caught on!
 
chrissyk said:
I think that she was around 41/42 when she started her undergrad (she had an AA and needed to get her BA or BS degree). That took about 2 years if memory serves me, and then she did her M.Ed. in like 1 year or 18 months. I remember that she had to argue with the school that she COULD do it that quickly, because it was a 2 year program. She got all A's, too! I think that she must have done her student teaching during her M.Ed, and then she got her job the next year. She had to permanent sub. for a year to get her foot in the door, though. She's been there for nearly 20 years now, though, and most people can't believe that this is actually her second career!

BTW, I am now going through our state's accelerated certification program to become a high school math teacher as a 2nd career. I've already got my "Certificate of Eligibility," so now I need to find a job. They aren't easy to come by in my county. My mom has been very supportive, of course :goodvibes

How great for both of you! I love it when teaching runs in the family. :goodvibes I hope to be a sub for at least until my youngest gets into high school, and perhaps even after she graduates. I need to make at least just enough money to pay off the student loans.
 
I feel your pain! I am in school too, going for my initial teacher's certification and it is tough. I work weekends, have 2 kids and have 11 credits for school (3 classes). We'll have to commiserate together. I was just taking a break on the DIS and now I have to get back to my homework that is due today! :rolleyes1

Hang in there, WE WILL make it through!
 
Toby'sFriend said:
I did it with 2 kids, working full-time, and completing an MBA

a couple of things I learned

1. Perfection is not an option. Don't over prepare for classes or tests. In fact, I amazingly found that I was able to get A's on many tests without even studying -- just keep up with the homework and stay awake in class and you'll still be ahead of most of the class.

2. You can get an amazing amount of homework done at while waiting for a red light to change.

3. Try your best to combine things and never redo work. Save your all your term papers and work (develop a filing system) -- you can often recycle and tweak them to hand in for another class.

4. Learn how to combine all your tasks - if your kids are young and you have to read Charlotte's Web, guess what tonight's bedtime story is?

5. Whenever possible, take the shortcut. So much of college is bull**** that you just need to get through. Fake it if you have to. I'm sure you've read Charlotte's Web before. If you don't have time to read it again, find a decent summary on the internet and glance through it. Nobody will ever know the difference.

Good Luck. :)

Thanks, I needed a good reality check like that! I think I'm going to go ahead and do the same thing with books I had to read for my young adult lit class as well, so that should really cut down on some of my reading.
 
PRINCESS VIJA said:
I feel your pain! I am in school too, going for my initial teacher's certification and it is tough. I work weekends, have 2 kids and have 11 credits for school (3 classes). We'll have to commiserate together. I was just taking a break on the DIS and now I have to get back to my homework that is due today! :rolleyes1

Hang in there, WE WILL make it through!

We can definitely commiserate. What is your certification going to be in?
 
Marseeya said:
In one of my classes, we've been talking a lot about multiculturalism and diversity in the classroom and these kids just don't get it! You should hear the prejudiced BS they spout off about "those kids" (black, poor, foreign, you name it). And for whatever reason, they already have this "us vs them" mentality about parents! OMG (insert cuss words here), if this is their attitude now, imagine them in the classroom. I truly wouldn't want these people teaching my kids and they're going to be out there very very soon! Sooner than me, even.

You can be the voice that helps them begin to see the light! I teach multicultural education at a community college. It takes time, but younger students do change their attitudes and behaviors over time!
 
:grouphug:

I feel your pain, partially. In my case it's working full time and going to school for one class for credit and a project for my program (so no credit but must work on it anyway), but I don't have kids. I think you have it harder.

But I have to say -- it may be a lot of work, but the homework you listed sounds like fun to me! Toby'sFriend has some good tips. :)
 
Marseeya said:
We can definitely commiserate. What is your certification going to be in?

I will be certified Pk-6. what about you?

Just finished my reading.... now I am off to answer the study guide questions!

Quick little breaks add up, I think I am going to have to really try and structure my time better so that I can be more organized! I'll have to try and DIS when I have done all of my work. :teacher:
 
mom2grace said:
You can be the voice that helps them begin to see the light! I teach multicultural education at a community college. It takes time, but younger students do change their attitudes and behaviors over time!

How cool! I'm actually getting a double dose of it this semester. One of my methods classes is focusing on multiculturalism and I'm also taking a diversity class. Plus every semester I have classes that incorporate multicultural literature in the lessons, so I think as far as the literature goes, I'll be okay.

I'm glad to hear there's hope! I'll just have to take your word for it that these kids will learn better. :teeth:
 
Rajah said:
:grouphug:

I feel your pain, partially. In my case it's working full time and going to school for one class for credit and a project for my program (so no credit but must work on it anyway), but I don't have kids. I think you have it harder.

But I have to say -- it may be a lot of work, but the homework you listed sounds like fun to me! Toby'sFriend has some good tips. :)

It's a shame you don't get credit for the class! Will it really benefit you in your job? YOu're right, the homework is fun for the most part. But having to write chapter outlines is so redundant and I hate regurgitating what I read. I'll have to just focus on the fun parts! :goodvibes
 
PRINCESS VIJA said:
I will be certified Pk-6. what about you?

Just finished my reading.... now I am off to answer the study guide questions!

Quick little breaks add up, I think I am going to have to really try and structure my time better so that I can be more organized! I'll have to try and DIS when I have done all of my work. :teacher:

I'm 6-12 language arts. Personally, I don't have a preference for which grade I end up teaching, how about you? You'd probably really like this children's lit class! By the end of it, we'll have read 50 books! :earseek: But what a great foundation.
 
Marseeya said:
It's a shame you don't get credit for the class! Will it really benefit you in your job? YOu're right, the homework is fun for the most part. But having to write chapter outlines is so redundant and I hate regurgitating what I read. I'll have to just focus on the fun parts! :goodvibes
In my job, not really. But it's a project that I'm enjoying and *could* have benefits for future work if I change fields (which I'm considering for my backup field), so that's okay. I have gotten some credit for it, but the project expanded from a 2 semester project to a program project instead. One problem with dreaming big ;)

And true, the chapter outlines are annoying. I just love reading. :goodvibes
 


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