Our un-magical Day

I have to admit that we were late for half our ADRs - only one of which was my fault: the first time it was because my mobility scooter died in the rain halfway round World Showcase. The CMs couldn't have been more helpful: not only we were given new rain ponchos (as both ours had ripped) but she offered me a wheelchair to get to Coral Reef for our ADR and tried ringing ahead to tell them we were unavoidably delayed. We got there in the end, but about 35 minutes late. There was NO question of us missing our ADR because we were late. I don't know whether it was them trying to make things better or pure luck, but we had the best experience there: we were sat by a tank and had great service all night. There was even a wheelchair waiting for me when we came out (not that I needed it), but it was lovey of them to have arranged it.

The rest of the time was because the Disney transport just never showed up at our resort! That was hardly our fault! It didn't matter where we were going: we saw buses for every other park except the one we needed every single time. The worst was getting to DTD for our ADR at Raglan Road. Total and utter nightmare! Nearly 30 minutes for a DTD bus and then such horrendous traffic that we ended up being 40 minutes late (Pleasure Beach is second stop and it was awful getting there). I'd have driven if there'd been somewhere there to park!

But again, we were never turned away from our ADRs or told we'd have to wait or even that we'd have to pay the $10 fee. Every time it was 'That's fine, ma'am'. I'm sure it's down to your demeanour when you present yourself.

Going back to birthday badges, I always wear one, and always get the 'happy birthday!' calls. That's all you do seem to get these days, though. In 2011 (my 50th birthday trip) I was given a free dessert, and I think a free drink was slipped into our family's meal order, but that's it. We got the odd little bit of pixie dust such as being given FPs or asked if we wanted to go round again on a ride - or even being picked out verbally, but the days of guaranteed freebies are long gone.

Your trips are what you make of them. If you go in expecting/demanding the royal treatment and that Disney has to bend over backwards for you, then you're going to be sorely disappointed and, like the OP, get angry when the slightest thing doesn't go your way.

2 years ago while I was at WDW, I had many magical things happen, both with and without my birthday badge. Did I ask for a single one of them? Nope. Would it have made my trip any different if they hadn't had happened? Nope. Why? Because I wasn't expecting them.

We had a plan of what we were doing, were prepared for our vacation, and we just let it unfold in front of us.

As far as anyone being late for ADRs, yes, stuff happens. Buses don't show, things break down. It happens. In comparison to the OP, however, the OP never gave herself a chance to realistically make her reservation times to start with. If you leave early enough and get on a bus and are stuck in traffic due to an accident or whatever, that's one thing, but she didn't know the monorail was down, and then the boat was 'slow' and then Norway was too far from the entrance of EPCOT? Looking at a map before hand goes a long way on that one...

Being late for an ADR due to something beyond your control is one thing, being ignorant and thinking you're going to be the only person there and that you'll have clear sailing with limited time to arrive, is another.
 
The sad fact...there are a lot of self absorbed self entitled spoiled brats in the world...living in this bubble of delusion. They want the world to bend over backwards for them because they're too foolish and lazy to do any meaningful planning and are crazy enough to think the mere act of forking over some money for tickets means their family should be treated like VIPs.

I saw OPs posts on several forums last night and laughed, but I woke up this morning more disgusted over it. People like OP are part of the problem in society these days. I feel so old saying that, but it's just sickening to read that post - then read their retorts- and then realize that OP genuinely believes the trash she's drawn up in her post. I mean, it's one thing to have a legitimate case of poor service (which this is not) and complain, but OP is just another lazy member of society who somehow feels she deserves the world for doing absolutely nothing but behaving like a cranky pathetic whiner.

Oh well, as someone else noted...hopefully this means OP will not return so none of us have to be inconvenienced by her conduct related to her poor planning and warped view of how it all works.
 
The rest of the time was because the Disney transport just never showed up at our resort! That was hardly our fault! It didn't matter where we were going: we saw buses for every other park except the one we needed every single time. The worst was getting to DTD for our ADR at Raglan Road. Total and utter nightmare! Nearly 30 minutes for a DTD bus and then such horrendous traffic that we ended up being 40 minutes late (Pleasure Beach is second stop and it was awful getting there). I'd have driven if there'd been somewhere there to park!

Bad luck like you had with the buses is the reason why Disney suggests you budget 90 minutes to get to any ADR. I'm glad they were able to accommodate you, that good luck makes up for the bad you had getting to your meal!:)
 
I just had my 14 yo son read the op to see what he thought ( he has been to wdw 3 times a day trip and twice for several days) and his first reaction was its a big lie. I had him read it without any input from me.
 

Please speak for yourself! There are actually some of us that enjoy their fries and I am one of them. Just because you don't, they're 'vile' right? Stick to it being just your opinion. :scratchin

The last I heard we all tend to enjoy different foods/things in life and that is a 'right' of all of us. There are sure to be foods that you like that I would not enjoy at all, but I wouldn't paint them all with the broad brush of saying they're 'vile'! Have a nice day while I go get a snack of Mickey D fries that this post has made me hungry for! ::yes::

Thank you so much for you incredibly sarcastic response; I really appreciated it.

Clearly you've never eaten McD fries over here, or you'd know what I'm talking about.
 
Bad luck like you had with the buses is the reason why Disney suggests you budget 90 minutes to get to any ADR. I'm glad they were able to accommodate you, that good luck makes up for the bad you had getting to your meal!:)

But that's the thing: we were only told to allow an hour. We allowed more. The trouble is, Martinique is the first pick-up stop at CBR and sometimes it would take 15 minutes just to get out of the resort!
 
The sad fact...there are a lot of self absorbed self entitled spoiled brats in the world...living in this bubble of delusion. They want the world to bend over backwards for them because they're too foolish and lazy to do any meaningful planning and are crazy enough to think the mere act of forking over some money for tickets means their family should be treated like VIPs. I saw OPs posts on several forums last night and laughed, but I woke up this morning more disgusted over it. People like OP are part of the problem in society these days. I feel so old saying that, but it's just sickening to read that post - then read their retorts- and then realize that OP genuinely believes the trash she's drawn up in her post. I mean, it's one thing to have a legitimate case of poor service (which this is not) and complain, but OP is just another lazy member of society who somehow feels she deserves the world for doing absolutely nothing but behaving like a cranky pathetic whiner. Oh well, as someone else noted...hopefully this means OP will not return so none of us have to be inconvenienced by her conduct related to her poor planning and warped view of how it all works.

I had a similar reaction to this poster. Last night I thought it was funny and most probably a troll. With the discovery of Katiebug's 10-year old postings it's apparent that she's for real. What is most ironic is that most of the changes she is complaining about have been made in direct response to people like her. She and her type have forced Disney to lessen up on the magic.. For example, a small child stumbles and skins his knee. As Mom is consoling, a cast member comes over with a balloon to make it better. KatieBugs twin sister sees what happens and demands a free balloon too else it's not fair. Since Disney won't give away balloons to all guests they instruct cast members to stop doing these "magical" acts in the future.
 
But that's the thing: we were only told to allow an hour. We allowed more. The trouble is, Martinique is the first pick-up stop at CBR and sometimes it would take 15 minutes just to get out of the resort!

I'm not sure who told you to allow an hour to make it to your ADRs, but on Disney's web site and on your confirmation it suggests you allow 90 minutes. But the most important thing is that they were able to seat you when the transportation was delayed.

Also when I stayed at CBR the first bus stop was almost always Jamaica. They rotate between stopping there and Martinique first. It does make it more of a challenge to get the timing right.:headache:
 
I'm not sure who told you to allow an hour to make it to your ADRs, but on Disney's web site and on your confirmation it suggests you allow 90 minutes. But the most important thing is that they were able to seat you when the transportation was delayed.

Also when I stayed at CBR the first bus stop was almost always Jamaica. They rorate between stopping there and Martinique first. It does make it more of a challenge to get the timing right.:headache:

I hated how it took 15 minutes to even leave the resort. Next time we're considering POFQ or somewhere with fewer bus stops! :rotfl2:
 
I had a similar reaction to this poster. Last night I thought it was funny and most probably a troll. With the discovery of Katiebug's 10-year old postings it's apparent that she's for real. What is most ironic is that most of the changes she is complaining about have been made in direct response to people like her. She and her type have forced Disney to lessen up on the magic.. For example, a small child stumbles and skins his knee. As Mom is consoling, a cast member comes over with a balloon to make it better. KatieBugs twin sister sees what happens and demands a free balloon too else it's not fair. Since Disney won't give away balloons to all guests they instruct cast members to stop doing these "magical" acts in the future.

yup, balloon days are over........ now we have stickers!!!!! :thumbsup2

little off topic but find me a thread that stays on one.:lmao:

dd, a cm in the mk who sold ice cream, pop corn etc....... I had a friend (a diser) text me and wanted to know when do they give out the free ice cream????? :confused3 he wanted me to ask dd when do they give out free ice cream? he said he was listening to a pod cast and the person said that wdw gives out so many free ice creams per hour or shift.
I just shook my head. just for the record..... wdw does not give out free ice cream and as far as I know, doesn't give out free, on quotas, anything.
 
I can't believe that some of you are defending some of the stupid "new" rules that Disney has implemented and just accept them. I have not been to the Magic Kingdom in at least five years because I recently had two babies so yes I was unaware of the changes. Perhaps if you had been to Disney ten years ago before the economy crashed and they let go of all their good cast members you would realize how much it sucks now. You never had to wait in line for an hour to see a princess. They were strolling in the park. They were not locked up in the "Princess Fairytale Hall". I was at the park for twelve hours and it was my 40th birthday and NO cast members even said happy birthday! Three! I've gone on my birthday or kids birthdays before and we got fastpasses for the day, free dessert at the restaurants, a happy birthday autograph picture from Mickey. Um, do you guys not remember this stuff. It's wrong that nobody is complaining especially when Disney set such a high standard of customer service. Are you all in La La Land? "It's okay. Disney can do no wrong even if they are making me wait in line and pay up the a** for everything!" And don't tell me I'm a bad mother for "not doing a little planning". This was an improptu trip. Hubby said, "Hey it's your birthday. Surprise we're going to Disney!" So I had no time to plan "180 days" in advance. Now you have to prompt the cast members to be nice to you? The CM's are very good now at saying "NO". Seriously! I'm through trying to defend myself. Below is a list of things that suck now. Go ahead and try to come up with more lame excuses about why it's okay. Pleasure Island - Gone - That sucks NO ADVENTURERS CLUB - REALLY, REALLY SUCKS Toon Town and Mickey and Minnie's house - Gone - That sucks Having to wait in line for over an hour to see characters - That sucks The new Fastpass system - only 3 for the whole day - That really sucks Having to give a credit card to make a reservation at a restaurant - sucks Not letting a mother with two small kids sit down at a restaurant while her husband purchases food from the restaurant - sucks No McDonald's french fries - sucks Running out of pineapple Dole Whips - only had orange - that really sucked Both Splash Mountain and Pirates were broken - sucks Nobody to trade pins with - or very few cm's - sucks Cinderella Castle Closed - sucks TERRIBLE customer service - sucks No variety in food (only burgers) - sucks Highest Ticket Prices EVER for a TERRIBLE experience - sucks A 'LOCKED UP' Mickey Mouse (REALLY!?!?) - Totally SUCKS I find it horrible that everyone on this board seems to defend Disney. Responses from people on here who claim that if we cant afford the prices then don't go, it's not whether we are able to afford the prices it's the value and the experience that we are supposed to get from it. Further more Walt Disney created Disney World to give 'EVERYONE' a magical experience not just the super rich. "Do what you do so well that they will want to see it again and bring their friends." -Walt Disney "You can design and create, and build the most wonderful place in the world. But it takes PEOPLE to make the dream a reality." - Walt Disney "You reach a point where you don't work for money." - Walt Disney "I only hope that we don't loose sight that it all started with a mouse." - Walt Disney "To all that come to this HAPPY place: Welcome; Disneyland is YOUR land. Here age relives fond memories of the past, and here youth may savor the challenge and promise of the future. Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, the dreams, and the hard facts that have created America... with hope that it will be a source of joy and inspiration to all the world." -Walt Disney "I don't want the public to see the world they live in while they're in the park. I want them to feel they're in another world." -Walt Disney "We believed in our idea... a family park where parents and children could have fun together." - Walt Disney "Disneyland is a work of love. We didn't go into Disneyland just with the idea to make money." - Walt Disney Changes and improvements to the park are fine but making it such a corporate experience rather than a magical guest oriented experience is ridiculous. The prices at every other park in the Orlando area are much less expensive sometimes by half so you can bet that my money will not be going to support a non-existent mouse. You all may be willing to roll over, hand over your cash and say "thank you sir may I have another?" but for me and my family we will not willing to roll over. As a travel agent as well, I will not be recommending any Disney Parks to my clients their time and money are better spent elsewhere. When I took my teenagers ten years ago, it was a much different, better and easier experience. I'm not mad because I didn't get my way. I'm mad because Disney's way of doing things now is sub-standard.
Yep, you're right Disney sucks. Can't believe they're still open for business! In the words, of a fellow teacher, "build a bridge and get over it!" Looks like Disney is no longer for you.
 
So, how long have you known the OP? You aren't fooling anyone when you join the day of, and this is your first post.

This ENTIRE THING is highly suspect anyway.

You took the words right out of my mind.......;). Both the OP and her defender has 3 total posts each!?!?
 
Let me start out by saying that I love Disney World, or at least I did until my recent trip on Monday, March 3, 2014. I have been to Disney at least twenty times. I honeymooned at Disney World. I have Disney stock. I never ever thought I would ever write a complaint letter to the "happiest place on earth". Granted, I have not been in a few years. There have been lots of changes at Disney, and most of them are not good. The reason I have not gone in a few years is that I have been busy having children, an adorable little Princess who is 2 years old, named Skye, and my 5-month old little Prince Dylan. I also have a twelve year old princess, Julie, and 14 year old princess, Kaitlynn. We are a big family. We paid lots of money for our tickets.

The charge of parking has gone up. It is $14.00 and it was $10.00. When you park for the Magic Kingdom, you actually wind up at the ticket and transportation center and then have to take a tram. You can't put the baby and all the stuff in the stroller because it will not fit on the tram. I guess you could walk, because it took fifteen minutes to wait for the tram anyway. After you get to the Ticket and Transportation Center then you have to take the ferry or monorail to the actual Magic Kingdom. It took over an hour to actually get to the gates of the Magic Kingdom from the time we parked. I think that's a little ridiculous.

The first thing I noticed from the monorail is that the castle is under construction (hmmmm, not very magical). Once inside the park the moat is drained!!!! It is ugly, not magical at all. And the inside of the castle is closed. There were two cast members blocking the way who rudely told us we could go around the back - past the smoking area and drained moat - which is very un-magical. The cast members could clearly see that Skye was crying because all she wanted to do was see Cinderella's castle and meet Cinderella. They didn't do anything!!!! In fact, they just looked disgusted that we were bothering them and now my annoying kid was crying. They didn't say, "Don't worry, you'll see Cinderella later." or offer to escort her in back themselves, or tell us where we could meet or see Cinderella later, or even say "I'm sorry, little princess, please don't cry!" So basically, we were there for less than fifteen minutes and my little girl is crying. So we went in the back way, made a wish in the fountain, and saw what we could of the castle, which wasn't much.

My little girl never did see Cinderella that day. I thought we could meet her after the castle show because all the characters come down afterwards to greet the children, but apparently that is a thing of the past. After the show the characters disappeared? This caused my little princess to cry again. Then I was told that they are holding Cinderella captive in the new Princess Fairytale Hall and you can get a fastpass so you don't have to wait in line for over an hour. Well, I went to get fastpasses and the new system would not allow me to get one. Ariel was also "unavailable" and so was Rapunzel. I was able to get a fastpass to meet Mickey but that wasn't until 6:30pm - 7:30pm. I used to be able to get a fastpass outside any ride. Now you can only get three? This is a horrible system. I was waiting in line for 45 minutes to get the fastpasses! How is that fast or magical?

At lunchtime, we went to Cosmic Ray's, or at least tried to. I got little Dylan out of the stroller along with all the stuff and sent my hubby to get the food so I could sit down with the little kids. There were two cast members guarding the door to where the seating is blocking the way. I was told that I couldn't sit down unless I have bought food!!!!! What!!!!!!!! Are you serious?????? I pointed to my husband in line and told him that I could not wait 30 minutes with a two year old and five month old without a stroller. I told my husband who was furious and complained to the manager, Sam. Sam did nothing. Sam did not apologize. Sam did not let me sit down. Sam did not give us vouchers for free dessert. Sam did nothing but stand in front of the door and treat us like second-class citizens. I wasn't bringing in food from home. I was planning to buy it, but even if the opposite was the case - why aren't people allowed to sit down anywhere for free? Especially people with little children who paid over $100 per person to get into the park? I was so angry I left and went over to Pecos Bills. They also had cast members guarding the seats. I was hungry and frustrated, so I gave in and waited with the kids to get all the food before I sat down. This is a ridiculous policy and it needs to be changed right away. People are paying ridiculous prices for so-so food and you won't let a mother of four sit down! I'm serious, if you keep doing this to mothers with little kids, it will cause a riot. There was a mother of twins and another grandmother at Cosmic Ray's who were just as angry as I was. I would also like to mention that Julie , is a picky eater. She eats chicken nuggets or pizza. There was nothing on the menu at Pecos Bills for her to eat - only burgers. I talked her into a Southwest Salad, which had grilled chicken on it. Food selection, quality and customer service is better at the state fair, than at Disney World restaurants. Don't you think all the restaurants should have staples for the kids? - Hot dog, hamburger, pizza, mac and cheese, chicken nuggets, corn dogs. Skye wanted ice cream. I couldn't get it there. I was told to go to a vendor outside. And why don't you sell McDonald's fries anymore. I loved that! After we were seated I needed to get up and get napkins and toppings. Apparently, you are paying the guards to watch the guests because three cast members asked me what I was doing out of my seat and reminded me that I couldn't sit down unless I had bought food. They were not offering to help me get everything I needed to feed my troop - they were strictly enforcing the rules and treating everyone like cattle. A cast member followed me back to my seat to make sure I had really bought food! So lunch was not very magical at all. I paid over $70 dollars for everyone and nobody was happy.

For dinner, I tried to make reservations but was told there was nothing available unless I went to Downtown Disney. Crystal Palace and Be Your Guest had a three hour wait and we were told that people with reservations have priority. I find it really hard to fathom that Disney World is making it so difficult to get a simple meal. We skipped dinner and ate at Denny's - which was cheaper and made everyone happy.

Next week we are planning to go to Epcot or MGM during spring break. I called Disney Dining to make reservations. I was appalled when I was told I had to guarantee any dining reservation with a credit card and cancel up to 24 hours in advance or be charged $10 per person. Ok, so that's $60 if we are stuck on a ride or get there late. People with four kids are rarely on time. At this point, I was angry enough to ask for a manager to discuss all of these "new policies". I spoke to Winston. He was also no help. He said he would gladly take my reservation but not without a credit card. I told him about the debacle at Cosmic Ray's. He said he had never heard of that happening before, so I guess it's not his problem. I told him that I took my two year old princess to the Magic Kingdom and she was unable to see Cinderella or Mickey Mouse. Apparently, he didn't care about that at all? Then he had the nerve to tell me that everyone is held to their high standard of policies, even Executive Vice Presidents! Really, well how does he know I'm not an Executive Vice President? He said he knew because an Executive Vice President would not cut off his sentences. Wow! Well, you can tell Winston that I am not an Executive, but I am a travel agent. And you can bet that this letter is going to be emailed to everyone I can think of at this point. And if any of my clients ask me where they should visit in Orlando - I will definitely tell them that Disney World is not worth the money anymore. Their customer service is sub-par at best and they simply don't care if a little kid is crying because they can't meet their favorite character. And if I could have a dollar for every time a Disney Cast member rolled their eyes at me on my visit - I would have over $100 dollars - which would cover the cost of my over-priced Disney ticket. I asked Winston to refund my tickets because at this point I never want to go to Disney again. He offered to transfer me to ticketing but reminded me that the tickets are non-refundable. Great customer service Disney! Epic Fail! I am ashamed of you. I've been a loyal Disney fan and guest for forty years. It's a shame that that loyalty was shattered in one visit to the so-called Magic Kingdom. If Disney refuses to do anything to make this right, any future visits to theme parks for my family will be spent at Universal Studios or Busch Gardens. And I mean more than a half-hearted apology and an eye roll!

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I call....troll. Besides any one who's been to Disney World over 20 times knows that WDW is the most MAGICAL place on earth and that Disneyland is the HAPPIEST.
 
My knowledge or relationship with the OP doesn't matter. If you think I'm suspect then you should look into the mirror, I'm sure you will reply that you are NOT the fairest in the land.

Her job performance as a TA doesn't matter either because this wasn't a vacation that was planned it was an impromptu gift from her husband for her 40th birthday as she stated in her OP. So she didn't plan anything. Again though it is not her responsibility to make up for the inadequacies of poor customer service and a less than magical experience. Any guest should absolutely expect the best experience possible because not only have they paid for it but they have also come to expect it from Disney.

So the next time you eat at a restaurant and your food is cooked incorrectly I hope that you realize that it is your fault for not providing the recipe and ensuring that the chef cooked it correctly.

Of course Disney should be held just as accountable as a chef who cooked your food incorrectly. So all of you that are defending Disney are completely off base and are being ignorant.

Hmmmmmmmm........No where in her first post does it say she was given this vacation by her husband for her 40th birthday. It would not have made any difference anyway. You must be the hubby(or just her posting under another name). It is not Disney's place to go out of their way for ONE two year old. Your wife, or yourself, could have easily asked the CM to point you in the direction of the next character greet.

Parking has ALWAYS been at the TTC, ALWAYS. As a travel agent, gift or no, she should know that Disney is not a place you can go without some planning. I have eaten at PCB and CR at lunch time and waited to sit AFTER we had our food, NEVER have I had a CM follow me around to the fixings bar.

To expect Disney to make up for her/your lack of planning makes you/her sound like you are expecting someone to give you something for nothing.
 
I haven't read all of the responses to your post but I am sure you have been offered some practical advice and feedback. Here is mine.

Let me start out by saying that I love Disney World, or at least I did until my recent trip on Monday, March 3, 2014. I have been to Disney at least twenty times. I honeymooned at Disney World. I have Disney stock. I never ever thought I would ever write a complaint letter to the "happiest place on earth". Granted, I have not been in a few years. There have been lots of changes at Disney, and most of them are not good. The reason I have not gone in a few years is that I have been busy having children, an adorable little Princess who is 2 years old, named Skye, and my 5-month old little Prince Dylan. I also have a twelve year old princess, Julie, and 14 year old princess, Kaitlynn. We are a big family. We paid lots of money for our tickets. I am sure you paid a lot of money for your tickets but so did everyone else. I'm also sure you think your children are Princes and Princesses but naming them on a public forum is never a good idea.

The charge of parking has gone up. It is $14.00 and it was $10.00. When you park for the Magic Kingdom, you actually wind up at the ticket and transportation center and then have to take a tram. You can't put the baby and all the stuff in the stroller because it will not fit on the tram. I guess you could walk, because it took fifteen minutes to wait for the tram anyway. There is nothing wrong with walking unless it is scorchingly hot or bitterly cold. We went to WDW for our first time in December and didn't have to walk very far from our car to our park transport. Consider it an adventure. We used the time it took to get to the park gates to talk about what to expect, what we wanted to do, which characters we hoped to meet. We also struck up conversations with fellow visitors. Many people were interested in where we were from and we were interested in where people were from. It was a lovely way to start our day. After you get to the Ticket and Transportation Center then you have to take the ferry or monorail to the actual Magic Kingdom. It took over an hour to actually get to the gates of the Magic Kingdom from the time we parked. I think that's a little ridiculous. Maybe you just went at a really busy time but we never had that experience. Not to say it couldn't happen though.

The first thing I noticed from the monorail is that the castle is under construction (hmmmm, not very magical). Can you imagine what those who visited WDW in its infancy must have thought then, when all of what we take for granted was being developed. Guess what, unless they close the entire park for the duration of any construction or maintenance, these things are always going to 'upset' someone. Imagine the threads that would be started here if the whole park was closed for months for construction and maintenance because WDW didn't want to offend anyone with the sight of a crane or two? Once inside the park the moat is drained!!!! It is ugly, not magical at all. And the inside of the castle is closed. There were two cast members blocking the way who rudely told us we could go around the back I doubt they were rude, perhaps it's just your perception as you were obviously in a non-magical mood yourself. - past the smoking area and drained moat - which is very un-magical. The cast members could clearly see that Skye was crying because all she wanted to do was see Cinderella's castle and meet Cinderella. They didn't do anything!!!! In fact, they just looked disgusted that we were bothering them and now my annoying kid was crying. As if. You are the parent, it is your responsibility to explain to your child what is happening, not theirs. They didn't say, "Don't worry, you'll see Cinderella later." or offer to escort her in back themselves, If that was to happen to your family, to have a special little private meeting then I am sure there would be hordes of people following you. Why do you think that your child/ren and family is more important than anyone else there? or tell us where we could meet or see Cinderella later, or even say "I'm sorry, little princess, please don't cry!" So basically, we were there for less than fifteen minutes and my little girl is crying. So we went in the back way, made a wish in the fountain, and saw what we could of the castle, which wasn't much. Working on your theory of entitlement my family should have been given exclusive access to CarsLand at DCA when we first went because it was under construction. Instead we saved up for another trip and enjoyed what was on offer (and never mind that It's a Small World was closed at DLR because they were taking down the Christmas decorations, so does that make my holiday un-magical and ruined?)

My little girl never did see Cinderella that day. Two trips to DLR/DCA and one to WDW I haven't seen Cinderella, either, but I did on the Fantasy in December :) I win :)I thought we could meet her after the castle show because all the characters come down afterwards to greet the children, but apparently that is a thing of the past. After the show the characters disappeared? This caused my little princess to cry again. Then I was told that they are holding Cinderella captive what a load of nonsense. Gee, you really know how to twist things, don't you. in the new Princess Fairytale Hall and you can get a fastpass so you don't have to wait in line for over an hour. Well, I went to get fastpasses and the new system would not allow me to get one. Ariel was also "unavailable" and so was Rapunzel. I was able to get a fastpass to meet Mickey but that wasn't until 6:30pm - 7:30pm. I used to be able to get a fastpass outside any ride. Now you can only get three? This is a horrible system. I was waiting in line for 45 minutes to get the fastpasses! How is that fast or magical?

At lunchtime, we went to Cosmic Ray's, or at least tried to. I got little Dylan out of the stroller along with all the stuff and sent my hubby to get the food so I could sit down with the little kids. There were two cast members guarding the door to where the seating is blocking the way. I was told that I couldn't sit down unless I have bought food!!!!! What!!!!!!!! Are you serious?????? There is a reason for this, it isn't always practical for someone who needs to sit down, but it's there for a reason. I ordered some kebabs and a coke for myself at Bengal BBQ while my family rode Indiana Jones at Disneyland. Every table was taken up by people waiting for someone, they were not eating or drinking. The tables mostly had one or two people seated, bags all over chairs and the table and some had prams with them. I had to juggle by food and drink and eat while standing and I was not the only one who was in the same predicament. If you are not eating, then wait elsewhere. I pointed to my husband in line and told him that I could not wait 30 minutes with a two year old and five month old without a stroller. I told my husband who was furious and complained to the manager, Sam. Sam did nothing. Sam did not apologize. Sam did not let me sit down. Gee, you make Sam out to be some heartless villain. Are you not sure your anger is clouding your opinion of the person? Sam did not give us vouchers for free dessert. Why on earth would you expect something for free?????? That is so rude and offensive to everyone else who follows the rules that, as a travel agent as you claim you are, you should already be familiar with! Sam did nothing but stand in front of the door and treat us like second-class citizens. I am really curious as to what people deem as a second class citizen. Please explain what you mean. I see this a lot bandied about and can never work out what people mean. I wasn't bringing in food from home. I was planning to buy it, but even if the opposite was the case - why aren't people allowed to sit down anywhere for free? Especially people with little children who paid over $100 per person to get into the park? Ah, so you paid over $100 per person to enter the park. I used a 5 day hopper pass that cost less per day, so that must be what you mean by a second class citizen. I paid less than you did so therefore you are entitled to a seat and I don't. My children are older than yours so therefore you are entitled to more than me. Okay, I get it now. I was so angry I left and went over to Pecos Bills. They also had cast members guarding the seats. I was hungry and frustrated, so I gave in and waited with the kids to get all the food before I sat down. This is a ridiculous policy and it needs to be changed right away. People are paying ridiculous prices for so-so food and you won't let a mother of four sit down! I'm serious, if you keep doing this to mothers with little kids, it will cause a riot. Again, another exaggeration. Sigh. There was a mother of twins and another grandmother at Cosmic Ray's who were just as angry as I was. I would also like to mention that Julie , is a picky eater. So? I eat bacon and ham but not pork. I'm picky too then :) She eats chicken nuggets or pizza. Unfortunately, unless she has a rare condition that makes it impossible for her to eat anything other than chicken nuggets or pizza, like allergies or sensory disorders, then it is a reflection on you as a parent for not introducing her to other foods much earlier. Saying she only eats chicken nuggets or pizza is not repsonsible parenting and it is doing nothing for her nutritionally. I suggest you take her to see a dietician or nutritionist. There was nothing on the menu at Pecos Bills for her to eat - only burgers. Surely you jest? I talked her into a Southwest Salad, which had grilled chicken on it. Food selection, quality and customer service is better at the state fair, than at Disney World restaurants. Don't you think all the restaurants should have staples for the kids? - Hot dog, hamburger, pizza, mac and cheese, chicken nuggets, corn dogs. No I do not. How on earth do you expect your children to experience other tastes if that is all you are going to feed them? What will happen to them as adults? Can you imagine them taking their future dates to McDonalds or Pizza Hut as a romantic outing? Skye wanted ice cream. And what Skye wants then Skye gets? Could you not say no? I couldn't get it there. I was told to go to a vendor outside. And why don't you sell McDonald's fries anymore. I loved that! After we were seated I needed to get up and get napkins and toppings. Apparently, you are paying the guards to watch the guests because three cast members asked me what I was doing out of my seat and reminded me that I couldn't sit down unless I had bought food. They were not offering to help me get everything I needed to feed my troop - they were strictly enforcing the rules and treating everyone like cattle. A cast member followed me back to my seat to make sure I had really bought food! Pish posh. That is all I can say that won't get me censored. So lunch was not very magical at all. I paid over $70 dollars for everyone and nobody was happy.

For dinner, I tried to make reservations but was told there was nothing available unless I went to Downtown Disney. Crystal Palace and Be Your Guest had a three hour wait and we were told that people with reservations have priority. I find it really hard to fathom that Disney World is making it so difficult to get a simple meal. I tried for months to make a CP character breakfast reservation online. It didn't happen. My life as I know it didn't end as a result. We skipped dinner and ate at Denny's - which was cheaper and made everyone happy. Try the tilapia meal, it was my favourite menu item. I just don't like avocado so asked for them to not put it on. I must be a fussy eater.

Next week we are planning to go to Epcot or MGM during spring break. I called Disney Dining to make reservations. I was appalled when I was told I had to guarantee any dining reservation with a credit card and cancel up to 24 hours in advance or be charged $10 per person. Ok, so that's $60 if we are stuck on a ride or get there late. People with four kids are rarely on time. Well, you just have to organise yourselves better then. I often look after up to 30 kids and I have to organise everyone to be on time otherwise we would miss excursion buses, swimming lessons, school assemblies, the home time bell... At this point, I was angry enough to ask for a manager to discuss all of these "new policies". I spoke to Winston. He was also no help. He said he would gladly take my reservation but not without a credit card. I told him about the debacle at Cosmic Ray's. He said he had never heard of that happening before, so I guess it's not his problem. I told him that I took my two year old princess to the Magic Kingdom and she was unable to see Cinderella or Mickey Mouse. Apparently, he didn't care about that at all?And why should he? It's not his area of responsibility. Then he had the nerve to tell me that everyone is held to their high standard of policies, even Executive Vice Presidents! Really, well how does he know I'm not an Executive Vice President? He said he knew because an Executive Vice President would not cut off his sentences. Wow! Well, you can tell Winston that I am not an Executive, but I am a travel agent. And a travel agent trumps EVP because... Again, pish posh that any of this conversation occured the way you are saying it did. And you can bet that this letter is going to be emailed to everyone I can think of at this point. And if any of my clients ask me where they should visit in Orlando - I will definitely tell them that Disney World is not worth the money anymore. Their customer service is sub-par at best and they simply don't care if a little kid is crying because they can't meet their favorite character. And if I could have a dollar for every time a Disney Cast member rolled their eyes at me on my visit - I would have over $100 dollars - which would cover the cost of my over-priced Disney ticket. Well, then you would make a very poor travel agent then because as a travel agent it is your responsibility to give the client what they want and be fair and reasonable and most definitely respectful of their wishes. I asked Winston to refund my tickets because at this point I never want to go to Disney again. He offered to transfer me to ticketing but reminded me that the tickets are non-refundable. Great customer service Disney! Epic Fail! I am ashamed of you. I've been a loyal Disney fan and guest for forty years. It's a shame that that loyalty was shattered in one visit to the so-called Magic Kingdom. If Disney refuses to do anything to make this right, any future visits to theme parks for my family will be spent at Universal Studios or Busch Gardens. And I mean more than a half-hearted apology and an eye roll!

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So there you have my responses to your post. I see that you have posted this on many different forums. Obviously things didn't go the way YOU wanted them to. Guess what, not everyone can be pleased exactly the way they want to be pleased. I would like to be able to ride every single ride whenever I want to without having to wait. I would love to be able to walk up to a food counter and get any food item I want when I want. I would love to be able to attend a place with perfect weather and not have to pay for anything myself. It's just not going to happen. Sure, there are some things that Disney can improve on or not do at all. Unfortunately, the world is made up of people from all different backgrounds, with varying tastes, preferences, characteristics, personalities etc. That is life and how it is. I think that you have come here with ulterior motives. I think you were trying to a free trip out of your complaints. Now, if you were run down by a wayward float, or a castle crane came tumbling down and hurt you, then yes, I would say you are entitled to some compensation, but because you could not see a character? Have a slice of pizza? An ice cream? Well, I think that is just pish posh. I really think you should try again when you have calmed down, but just wake up on the right side of the bed. Remember, you are the example to your children, be a good one.
 
I know of all the ridiculous complaints the OP made this is probably the dumbest one to get hung up on, but it really irks me for some reason: The complaint about Cinderella being "held captive" in Princess Fairytale Hall instead of just roaming the streets. If I went to meet the Queen of England, I would fully expect that meeting to take place in Buckingham Palace where I go to her. I certainly wouldn't expect to just bump into her in an alley somewhere. Disney is all about theme... And doesn't it fit the "royalty" theme so much better to have the princesses in Fairytale Hall instead of wandering the streets like a bunch of vagabonds? Sorry, I don't know why I'm giving this so much thought -- stupid, TipsyTraveler, stupid! :rotfl:
 
I have to say I get so annoyed when people come in and take restaurant seating without food in hand. Last trip I was at Hollywood studios with a pizza + drink in my hand when some guy actually RAN ahead of me when I was within 10 feet of the table. While his wife went to order. I ended up leaning against a railing to eat while he waited the 20 minutes for his wife to come back. By that time I was done eating. Yeah, good job buddy. I would say a good fifth of the tables didn't have food at them.
 
Thank you so much for you incredibly sarcastic response; I really appreciated it.

Clearly you've never eaten McD fries over here, or you'd know what I'm talking about.

No, I haven't, and most likely you haven't eaten them here either! :rolleyes:
 
I have to say I get so annoyed when people come in and take restaurant seating without food in hand. Last trip I was at Hollywood studios with a pizza + drink in my hand when some guy actually RAN ahead of me when I was within 10 feet of the table. While his wife went to order. I ended up leaning against a railing to eat while he waited the 20 minutes for his wife to come back. By that time I was done eating. Yeah, good job buddy. I would say a good fifth of the tables didn't have food at them.

Yes - I have often traveled as a solo adult with one or both of my kids and experienced just this.

I really - really like that you are now seated after you order your food at the WDW counter service restaurants. If one of us needs to sit and wait while the rest get in line and order they find a bench outside and we text them when we are ready to find a table together.
 





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