Our son came out of the pool at Typhoon Lagoon with a bloody back and huge wounds!!!

[scubamouse]

OP, are you familiar with wave pools? Unfortunately, it sounds like your son's injury resulted from your assumption of risk when you chose to go to the pool.

We go to wave pools occasionally at home (though never been to one at Disney) and they seem rather dangerous in general. But we could choose not to go, and if one of my kids were injured, I'd blame myself rather than the pool operator.

We've been to lots of wave pools at places like Great Wolf Lodge and Water Country USA etc. The wave pool at Typhoon Lagoon is SO much stronger than any one I've been to before. There's just no comparison at all.. Watching the pacing of the waves before going in did nothing to prepare me and my family for the fact that we'd be tossed around like tops in that pool.

We all got scraped up to varying degrees and my kids are competitive swimmers/scuba divers.

We'll never go in that pool again but I'll happily to plenty of other wave pools. That's a deceptively strong wave pool

 

[minniemous]

I think if she told this as a cautionary tale, it would have been received much differently. But she wanted folks to immediately agree that Disney was evil for not clearly staring the risks. Sure, the pool bottom is rough. But it did not seem she was heeding any warnings at all for first timers who had never been to a water park or in a wave pool before.

There is something to be said for personal accountability.

I don't see attacks by anyone other than the OP. YMMV.

I just re-read the OP's original post and I am sorry I just do not see her making disney look "evil". She tells an accounting of her experience and then in the last third of the post she says......

"We were surprised that there were no warnings about the danger of the wave pool. There are signs telling people that they should hold on to small children etc. but doesnt really explain the dangers in detail plus we didn’t think an 8 year old boy is considered a small child. Also, my husband actually was holding his hand and they both got thrown back and separated, getting pushed under water. My husband said that the power of the wave was so strong that even he fell down and lost control. He thought it was extremely dangerous. Either Disney needs to put detailed information on their signs about the actual dangers and possibilty of getting hurt in that pool or they should cut down the power of the wave. We later saw another boy around our son's age with the exact same wounds going in to the first aid office. It's ridiculous. My son now has two big scars on his back. We enjoyed the rest of the park but dont plan on going into that pool again. We actually had a better time at Blizzard Beach."

I do not see "evil" being leveled against Disney. I really think the information is valuable to make note of. Also disagree that a sign that warns against abrasions and cuts will scare people for no reason. Space mountain and other roller coasters warn against much worse and I do not fear a heart attack. I know it is directed towards a certain class of people with weak hearts.

In the wave pool children are more susceptible to getting pushed around and they are the class of individuals that are at a higher risk of injury. Given that in the 4 main parks there are for all intensive purposes rides that are either under a certain height which usually means under 4 to 5 years old and then over I would take the sign meaning "young children" to be in that under 4 to 5 years old range.

I do not think the mother in this post thinks her child is not "young" just perhaps not the "young child" Disney was referring to. I do not think she was being unreasonable or leveling an accusation that Disney is evil. In fact she spends a great deal of time talking about the kindness of the first aid worker.

She gave us information that I greatly appreciate. I would like a sign with just a little more warning as to this and I do not think I am unintelligent for the need to have a little more warning to appreciate this danger.

 

[Laketravis]

I'm still trying to figure out what anyone would do differently because of additional warnings if even a full grown man can get knocked down.

Not go in at all? Use a buddy system? Wrap yourself in bubble wrap?

 

[TXAKDisneyFan]

While the bottoms of the pools needs to be somewhat rough to prevent slipping, it does seem overly so. I've been to many water parks (including Schlitterbahn), and their pool bottoms don't seen nearly as rough. I haven't been to TL, but about 10 years ago at BB, my foot was pretty badly cut. I got turned upside down when I came out of a water slide, and 'stepped' on the bottom of the pool with the top/side of my foot. Broke my little toe and gashed the joint - still have a scar to show for it. Ever since then, I still love water parks but the lazy river is more my speed.

 

[minniemous]

I'm still trying to figure out what anyone would do differently because of additional warnings if even a full grown man can get knocked down.

Not go in at all? Use a buddy system? Wrap yourself in bubble wrap?

I have not been there but looking at the warning sign that someone posted it would seem they simply state..strong waves may occur and children under 10 must be accompanied by an adult.

In answer to your question (but again I have never been to a wave pool) I think if it warned against children getting abrasions and cuts by being knocked down I would not go in with my daughter until she was much older. The risk is not worth it to me.

 

[jtowntoflorida]

OK, so I must be the only dumb-dumb who has received scrapes on the bottom of pools. And not wave pools, just pools in general. To me concrete + bare skin = potential for abrasions. I don't need a sign to tell me that.

 

[lmcarr49]

I just re-read the OP's original post and I am sorry I just do not see her making disney look "evil". She tells an accounting of her experience and then in the last third of the post she says......

"We were surprised that there were no warnings about the danger of the wave pool. There are signs telling people that they should hold on to small children etc. but doesnt really explain the dangers in detail plus we didn’t think an 8 year old boy is considered a small child. Also, my husband actually was holding his hand and they both got thrown back and separated, getting pushed under water. My husband said that the power of the wave was so strong that even he fell down and lost control. He thought it was extremely dangerous. Either Disney needs to put detailed information on their signs about the actual dangers and possibilty of getting hurt in that pool or they should cut down the power of the wave. We later saw another boy around our son's age with the exact same wounds going in to the first aid office. It's ridiculous. My son now has two big scars on his back. We enjoyed the rest of the park but dont plan on going into that pool again. We actually had a better time at Blizzard Beach."

I do not see "evil" being leveled against Disney. I really think the information is valuable to make note of. Also disagree that a sign that warns against abrasions and cuts will scare people for no reason. Space mountain and other roller coasters warn against much worse and I do not fear a heart attack. I know it is directed towards a certain class of people with weak hearts.

In the wave pool children are more susceptible to getting pushed around and they are the class of individuals that are at a higher risk of injury. Given that in the 4 main parks there are for all intensive purposes rides that are either under a certain height which usually means under 4 to 5 years old and then over I would take the sign meaning "young children" to be in that under 4 to 5 years old range.

I do not think the mother in this post thinks her child is not "young" just perhaps not the "young child" Disney was referring to. I do not think she was being unreasonable or leveling an accusation that Disney is evil. In fact she spends a great deal of time talking about the kindness of the first aid worker.

She gave us information that I greatly appreciate. I would like a sign with just a little more warning as to this and I do not think I am unintelligent for the need to have a little more warning to appreciate this danger.

I totally agree with this post!

Sorry you got bashed OP.

 

[themouseforme]

men take more chances (with physical safety) than women do. not coincidence that he was out there with dad and not mom.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I just re-read the OP's original post and I am sorry I just do not see her making disney look "evil". She tells an accounting of her experience and then in the last third of the post she says......

"We were surprised that there were no warnings about the danger of the wave pool. There are signs telling people that they should hold on to small children etc. but doesnt really explain the dangers in detail plus we didn’t think an 8 year old boy is considered a small child. Also, my husband actually was holding his hand and they both got thrown back and separated, getting pushed under water. My husband said that the power of the wave was so strong that even he fell down and lost control. He thought it was extremely dangerous. Either Disney needs to put detailed information on their signs about the actual dangers and possibilty of getting hurt in that pool or they should cut down the power of the wave. We later saw another boy around our son's age with the exact same wounds going in to the first aid office. It's ridiculous. My son now has two big scars on his back. We enjoyed the rest of the park but dont plan on going into that pool again. We actually had a better time at Blizzard Beach."

I do not see "evil" being leveled against Disney. I really think the information is valuable to make note of. Also disagree that a sign that warns against abrasions and cuts will scare people for no reason. Space mountain and other roller coasters warn against much worse and I do not fear a heart attack. I know it is directed towards a certain class of people with weak hearts.

In the wave pool children are more susceptible to getting pushed around and they are the class of individuals that are at a higher risk of injury. Given that in the 4 main parks there are for all intensive purposes rides that are either under a certain height which usually means under 4 to 5 years old and then over I would take the sign meaning "young children" to be in that under 4 to 5 years old range.

I do not think the mother in this post thinks her child is not "young" just perhaps not the "young child" Disney was referring to. I do not think she was being unreasonable or leveling an accusation that Disney is evil. In fact she spends a great deal of time talking about the kindness of the first aid worker.

She gave us information that I greatly appreciate. I would like a sign with just a little more warning as to this and I do not think I am unintelligent for the need to have a little more warning to appreciate this danger.

Again--it is how I read ALL of her posts.

People gave reasoned and rational responses--they did not attack. She did repsons with some nastiness, admitted that it was not her responsibility to be accountable, she felt her husband did enough, and that Disney didn't do enough to warn her. Well--she is admitting she didn't need existing warnings. And because of this, Disney should have even more warnings.

I don't blame her for being upset one bit. I do question her lack of taking any accountability by neglecting to take caution consistent with existing warnings in a situation she admits to have never exposing her family to.

She didn't think it was that powerful from she observation--how did all the other guests escape serious injury?

In the end--no one was nasty or flaming her. Rational, cogent responses to her were given. It was not a "pile on". And she opted to take exception with those posts because the majority would not agree that Disneu was solely responsible for what occurred.

And she wasn't made a bad guy for her experience. It was more her posts that did her in. Folks pretty much remained calm.

Yes the nurse told us why they have a rough bottom but that doesnt take away the danger. Also, even though we dont consider an 8 year old a small child, my husband was till holding his hand before the wave hit as the sign reccomended. Didnt help. He still got hurt.

We have never had any experience with a wave pool ever. When we watched the wave some in with the other folks in the water it didnt seem that powerful. How were we supposed to know until we experienced it ourselves???? We saw other kids his age in there with their parents. So they went in and the wave was so powerful it even threw my husband down. So why would you think I should blame myself when we had zero experience and the warnings were no where close to telling you the actual danger of the pool!!

Why would it be insulting if they simply said that the wave is very powerful, the bottom is very rough and there is a possible chance of cuts and injury regardless of age. If I read that, I wouldnt have let my son go in!!!

We had no clue that the waves can force you to the bottom of the pool that happens to have extremely rough texture and can cut you up regardless of age. Ive been in the ocean playing in waves and never got hurt because I didnt have to deal with sandpaper on the bottom.

No!! It's NOT COMMON SENSE IF YOU HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED A WATER PARK OR WAVE POOL BEFORE!!!!! give me a break!!

This quote where she yells is where she became nasty.

thank you. I have to emphasize that my family and I have never been to a water park before let alone a wave pool. We had no clue about the dangers of any of this and would have appreciated a little heads up before our son's got injured. we spent over $15000 on this vacation including resort, cruise, flights, food and souvenirs and were really looking forward to a few weeks of lots of swimming and pool time at the resort, park and cruise so having my son get a wound so bad that we would have to keep him out of water for the entire trip really messed things up for us. We didnt have the heart to have him boycott all water while on this trip since most of it was around water.

the nurse told us that he put a water proof bandage on it and he can go back into the water. He told us how to treat the wound and we followed his instructions since he knows better than us.

Also I did watch the wave once before they went in and from the shore it looked fine as long as they held hands. It was hard to tell the actual force from the shore.

And yes, my experience with small waves was in the ocean and I never got cut up and it was years ago.

For a family with zero experience they need to warn you better. I dont appreciate being made the bad guy here and being told that I should have known better. Really?? How?? With my crystal ball!!!!

You are confused as to how I didnt know a 6 foot wave would be so powerful. Really? I will tell you why....because I have had experience with a six foot wave so how the heck should I know what it feels like! I figured it's a Disney park, they are allowing kids in this pool. It should be safe otherwise there would be a sign saying kids are not allowed just like they do with height requirements on their rides!!!

Im glad you brough this up because my husband and son also did not go in very far out at all. We also had fun later in the day afterward. We will never go into a wave pool again after this experience. Disney needs stricter requirements for this pool, bottom line.

And we followed those directions as my husband was holding his hand. And how is it common sense to know you can get scraped up in a pool when we had never been in this pool and had no clue it was so rough. It was our very first thing as soon as we arrived in the park. they went into the pool and I stayed at our chairs on the beach.

Are you serious here!!!!??? Im over exagerrating our two bad experiences? How the hell would you know ?? You werent there. My son was hurt badly. He had two deep cuts. His back was bleeding very badly. Period. and the customer service at Coronado sucked. Period. We werent the only ones who had that experience at CSR. We heard many other guests complaining at the staff while we were standing in line to get our food. You dont want to believe my experience. Then dont believe it but you have no right downplaying our experience.

Ok Im done with this thread. I thought I would post our experience in order to prevent another family from having the same injury. Take it or leave it. I dont appreciate the attacks and I dont deserve them. Have a great day folks!

 

[lmcarr49]

OMG! She was clearly responding to someone being rude to her. Why don't you capture the whole conversation instead of singling her out like she was yelling for no reason??

 

[minniemous]

Oh my goodness well I am not prepared to go and parcel out very post made by everyone in the opposite camp.

I do think that many people have agreed that they have been to wave pools before and that this wave pool is much stronger. I believe I have heard advertising that it is the biggest wave pool in existence (just what I recall).

It sounds like if her husband was holding onto her 8 year old child and they still both got dragged down then more warning is in order. Many people have no experience with this.

 

[minniemous]

OMG! She was clearly responding to someone being rude to her. Why don't you capture the whole conversation instead of singling her out like she was yelling for no reason??

I agree.

 

[aaarcher86]

While it probably feels like it happens frequently for the nurse, if 10 out of 1000 are getting injured it would hardly be cause for more signage, IMO.

I think wounds was clearly overstating it. When I think of a wound I think of open flesh, not something that can be taken care of with Neosporin and a waterproof bandaid.

It's a shame it happened. Did it require a rant 10 weeks later? Probably not. I don't think the OP got bashed until she got snippy for people disagreeing.

 

[maxiesmom]

Oh my goodness well I am not prepared to go and parcel out very post made by everyone in the opposite camp.

I do think that many people have agreed that they have been to wave pools before and that this wave pool is much stronger. I believe I have heard advertising that it is the biggest wave pool in existence (just what I recall).

It sounds like if her husband was holding onto her 8 year old child and they still both got dragged down then more warning is in order. Many people have no experience with this.

The sign states Strong Waves May Occur. Should they remove the May? I don't see what is unclear. How someone could read all of those warnings and not get that it is not a tame little pool.

 

[maxiesmom]

While it probably feels like it happens frequently for the nurse, if 10 out of 1000 are getting injured it would hardly be cause for more signage, IMO.

I think wounds was clearly overstating it. When I think of a wound I think of open flesh, not something that can be taken care of with Neosporin and a waterproof bandaid.

It's a shame it happened. Did it require a rant 10 weeks later? Probably not. I don't think the OP got bashed until she got snippy for people disagreeing.

I agree. In my mind "huge wounds" would mean a trip to the ER. Not waterproof band-aids and back in the pool you go.

 

[minniemous]

The sign states Strong Waves May Occur. Should they remove the May? I don't see what is unclear. How someone could read all of those warnings and not get that it is not a tame little pool.

Well now that you mention it...if it is a fact that the waves are strong in this pool I do think the word "may" can be taken out. "May" does generally suggest a small likelihood of occurring in normal context.

Again I have never been to these water parks. I do not know how dangerous they are first hand. I just have heard many accounts of kids getting injured so I think another one sentence warning about scrapes and abrasions form being dragged to the bottom of the pool from a strong wave.

If I read a sign that children younger than 10 must be accompanied by an adult then I would think accompanying my child of 8 and holding his or her hand would protect from injury.

The OP seems like a reasonable person and if she is saying that she could not appreciate the danger than I imagine she is not the only person. If it happens enough then a simple line warning of this would be simple.

Like I said other rides go down a entire laundry list of what could happen on the ride. They could certainly do better than a strong wave "May" occur. Just my opinion. I certainly do not think Disney is "evil". I love Disney world, that is why I keep going back.

 

[Cyrano]

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