OT: Potty Training and Pre-school

[zoemurr]

but I think the big trick is to have the change themselves. Remind them that it sure would have been quicker to use the bathroom..

I also agree with just staying home for a few days. With my DD she had no interest. We stayed home for a week and I gave her a lot of attention. She had to sit on a blanket, and she was in undies and we played all day, with bathroom breaks every 1/2hr or so. The first day she had about 10 accidents.. but the next day 5 and the next 3.. then we were done. I think it just took her knowing that we weren't going back, and if she ever wanted to leave the house she would get her act together. It was also a big pain for her to have to change herself, and miss time from what we were doing.

Now my DS woke up a few days after he was 3 and said, "I don't want to wear diapers anymore." and "training" was never an issue.

Good luck..

Also..I imagine if you sent him to your daycare provider w/undies on she would get on board quick so he would not be making a lot of messes.

 

[MSSANDRA]

I think you are getting some great ideas. Most 3 year old program DO require potty trained children. I however think you are going to have a tough time until you get your current child care provider to get on board with you. I did in-home day care when DS was little so I feel free to say, " you are paying her to care for your child and potty training him is part of his care right now ". Now if you were not working with him at home that would be different as I have had parents that wanted me to "train" them at my home and not be bothered at home. Does she know that you plan to move him when he is trained?? Not such a great motivation to her to get him trained. If she is not willing to help out and the quick-fix week-end does not work (though it is great for this age child)- I would consider putting him in the new daycare in the two's where they can help with the potty training.

I am a huge fan of turning the whole process over to the child when they are over 2 1/2- 3. Buy two laundy baskets and a bunch of regular underwear. GEt rid of all diapers/pull ups etc. Explain the deal. You soil them, you clean up and put them in the basket and get you a new pair. It almost always works and works quick. I agree that it takes WORK to train a child and it does not always just happen. There becomes a point where it is a discipline issue and not a potty issue.

Good luck!!!!!1

MsSandra

 

[flying_babyb]

any advice for a Daycare teacher? Weve got a 4 year old who wears pull ups and is just NOT instered. Weve covered the whole Not going to preschool thing but its not working. We cant let them change themselves.

 

[MSSANDRA]

That is tough!! Does you pollicy allow a non trained child in the class?? Our preschool is flexable with the three's but fours have to be trained. If you are in a director role, I would hit the parents with a extra "fee" in order to motivate them to get on board with training at home. Otherwise not much you can do. I am surprised that peer presure does not work well in this case. Of coure there are some special situations where some type of trama has accured that make the whole issue more difficult so that needs to be considered.
NOt much you can do with a whole class of other children and the parents not on board. Maybe try a reward chart and a little extra attention a nap time or when ever you can snag it.


good luck!

MsSandra

 

[LuvENDisney]

You guys are great!! Thanks for the encouragement, I really, really need it. We have done the sticker thing and he knows he gets a sticker when he goes to the potty and when he gets 7 stickers, he gets a toy. But it seemed to have lost its luster.

I have realized through this thread that my DS will be ready when he is ready, but it doesn't hurt for momma to give him a little nudge. I think I will try the stay at home for a week without a diaper during the day. I like the setting a timer thing. Just like Pavlov!! haha!!
We are in the middle of moving, so I think I will have to save it for when we move into the other house. Too much change for him, I think.

We have tried the movie thing and the books. We have the Elmo video and an Elmo that goes potty. Sometimes he likes it, other times not. I will take the video back out again and see how he does with it again. It has been a while, so maybe he will take to it this time.

I did speak to my at home provider after I put out this post. She said that he actually used the potty twice! YEAH! So, that was good news. She did say that she is going to help me with this, but was an advocate for when he is ready, he will be ready.

As for starting preschool, I have looked at options in my new neighborhood and all 3 y/o must be potty-trained around my area, before they start preschool. Nanu57v, yes, he won't have to start K for 2 more years. I know I have to keep that in mind. Thanks for putting that into perspective for me.

Thank you my fellow DISers!! I could always bribe him with a Disney trip!

 

[Starr W.]

My youngest was really pig headed about it. I down loaded an ebook(I think it was called the "potty whisperer") and with in 4 days he was potty trained. The poop training took a wee bit longer though. He was 3 when we did this.

He did throw a big fit when we got him out of the pullups for night sleeping(he's been dry at night since he was a toddler). And he did get mad about not wearing swim diapers any more also. Like I said my baby is very pig headed.

 

[disneyjunebug]

How's this for stubborn....

My 4 yr old will wear underwear, will pee in the potty, has had 2 accidents all year in Preschool, but will poop the minute he comes home in his pants! I can put him on the potty for 15 minutes when we come home, play games, cry, etc, nothing. He leaves me for 5 minutes and he's dirty!

He pees at home, its just the poop thing. He even stays dry all night! My Ped says its a control thing. In the past year, we moved 200 miles, lived with my mom for 4 months, moved into a new house, he's changed day cares, and had to have his tonsils/adnoids and tubes in his ears (the Toddler Trifecta!). I just want him not poop in his undies anymore!!!

 

[mimif1]

We're in the middle of potty training our DD right now. She turned 3 in March. Part of our problem is that she is developmentally delayed and has low muscle tone. FINALLY, this week she actually peed in the potty. We've decided we are not above M&M bribes! 1 for sitting, 2 for actually going. I really don't think she knowns when she has to go #2 yet. She suffers from constipation due to the low muscle tone and takes meds to help. She always seems really surprised when she goes, so I think it will be a bit longer before she completely get it. And I don't think she has ever woken up dry! We actually set the timer for every 20 minutes the first few days and stayed home. DD11 and DD8 really got into it when I offered them the same M&M bribe that DD3 got if they cheered and danced when she went. She adores them so it was a big motivation for her! Pixie dust to all potty training families!

 

[MSSANDRA]

How's this for stubborn....

My 4 yr old will wear underwear, will pee in the potty, has had 2 accidents all year in Preschool, but will poop the minute he comes home in his pants! I can put him on the potty for 15 minutes when we come home, play games, cry, etc, nothing. He leaves me for 5 minutes and he's dirty!

He pees at home, its just the poop thing. He even stays dry all night! My Ped says its a control thing. In the past year, we moved 200 miles, lived with my mom for 4 months, moved into a new house, he's changed day cares, and had to have his tonsils/adnoids and tubes in his ears (the Toddler Trifecta!). I just want him not poop in his undies anymore!!!

This is when I would try the giving the whole thing back to him. Let him clean up and put on new underwear. Can be a real mess for a few days but most kids hate it enough for it to work. Bet he is a really bright kid!!!!!!

 

[disneyjunebug]

This is when I would try the giving the whole thing back to him. Let him clean up and put on new underwear. Can be a real mess for a few days but most kids hate it enough for it to work. Bet he is a really bright kid!!!!!!

Yeah, I think a little too bright sometimes! I will try the letting him clean himself up trick. Right now, he was constipated from the surgery/medicine, etc., so there isn't much poopie coming out! Thank goodness for Fletchers!

 

[Princess Roo]

Lurking on this thread because ds who turned 3 in November has no interest in potty training. ...
Problem is he is not very verbal (hardly at all). Communicates by lots of means, but only starting to put his sentences together, so telling me when he needs to pee is not really easy for him. He hasn't made the connection between the sensation and going to the washroom.

Toesmom - Does he do any sign language? Even if he doesn't do "real" signs, you can teach him a signal to give you when he needs to go. My friend 's child goes up to his caregiver and pulls the waistband of his pants out to the side a little as a sign, for example. Also, many children don't get the connection with the sensation until they have gone on the potty for a while. That's why setting a timer and you bringing him to the potty helps for a while. For my son, it was a transition from sitting on the potty not doing anything to sitting on the potty and "accidentally" going and getting lots of praise to being able to "push" urine out "on command" when put on the potty by me but not knowing when he needed to do so to now finally starting to understand in advance that he needs to get to the potty and tell me.

 

[toesmom]

Toesmom - Does he do any sign language? Even if he doesn't do "real" signs, you can teach him a signal to give you when he needs to go. My friend 's child goes up to his caregiver and pulls the waistband of his pants out to the side a little as a sign, for example. Also, many children don't get the connection with the sensation until they have gone on the potty for a while. That's why setting a timer and you bringing him to the potty helps for a while. For my son, it was a transition from sitting on the potty not doing anything to sitting on the potty and "accidentally" going and getting lots of praise to being able to "push" urine out "on command" when put on the potty by me but not knowing when he needed to do so to now finally starting to understand in advance that he needs to get to the potty and tell me.

I'm going to just try the timer thing and stay home (or carry potty everywhere I go) for few days and see how it goes. He doesn't sign, but is only starting to express himself. I've got 2 months so hopefully should be enough time. We'll be at AS MOvies end of August so hopefully I won't need swimming diapers by then. Thanks for the tips.