Opinions Wanted: Take son or leave home?

bigrich

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The family is planning a trip to DL in less than two weeks. A couple of days ago our DS13 received his report card in the mail. It was horrible to say the least. We are in constant contact with his school and thought we knew what to expect, we were wrong. We usually go to DL 1-2 times a year and we feel that we should leave him with his grandmother as a consequense to his actions however we really hate to.

What would everyone else do? Please weigh in.

Thanks!
 
Are your family vacations normally based on grades? If yes, and if he was expecting this punishment, then OK, leave him with grandma. But if it's just a family vacation and you had not mentioned grades before, then my goodness no. Maybe he NEEDS a vacation, something to get him revved up again for school.
 
Boy, that's a tough one. Is it a trip where you've already bought everything (plane, hotel, park tickets, etc), been planning for months? If so, I'd say bring him, but maybe he loses some privileges while he's there. If it's perhaps a road trip and you won't really be out any money if he doesn't go, maybe see if grandma can be a heavy hand while you're gone. You don't necessarily want it to be a 'vacation' at grandma's house.

Some other things to consider: Will he miss school or not? If his grades are suffering, maybe taking him out of school isn't the best thing for him. Do you know the reason for his poor grades? Are there other issues going on? Be sure to listen to your inner voice, it may tell you what the right thing to do is. Maybe Bumbershoot is right - maybe he needs some time at Disneyland and some family bonding. Or maybe he needs to set aside time on the trip to study. Or maybe he'd be better off staying home, diving into his studies, and 'earning' a later trip. :confused3

Good luck with whatever you decide!
 
Totally with Bumbershoot. Its a family vacation? Then the whole family should go. Take the "time off" to talk about it without anger and pressure. Being 13 is so stinkin' hard. Take away the video games or something like that but family time is gold.
 

I completely agree with Cool Pool. I think kids at that age need to have more family time. However, his punishment should be to have daily schoolwork that needs to be accomplished at the hotel. Possibly, having to wake up earlier than everyone else to complete his schoolwork while others are sleeping and/or getting ready for the day. Just my opinion though...... I am a huge believer in Family time.
 
If this isn't a once in a life time, or once every few years kind of trip, then I think it's an appropriate consequence. Does he like to go to DL? If he doesn't, it's a rather useless consequence.
I think kids these days have such a sense of entitlement, that they deserve everything given to them. They don't truly comprehend the difference between a right and a privilege. They earn privileges. I think that when they don't do their jobs (staying away from drugs, applying themselves appropriately in school, etc.), then they need clear consequences, ie losing their privileges. Trips to Disneyland, in my opinion, are privileges. Cel phones, internet, t.v., extra-curricular activities...all privileges.
I wouldn't cancel a Disney trip if I didn't have an appropriate alternative for one of the kids, but I wouldn't think twice about leaving one with family under the circumstances.
Edited to add.....all of the above is assuming that you think a punishment or withholding of privileges is appropriate. If you think he's troubled, depressed, or trying his hardest and just not doing well, dealing with something bigger, etc. something like that might not be appropriate.
 
My understanding of the current way of thinking about report cards is that they should not be monetarily rewarded, and they should not be punished.

So, I think he needs to come on vacation with you and have a good time.

The consequences of a bad report card may be more time spent at home doing homework, less time on TV or video games. Perhaps less time on extra curricular activity. He needs to understand that his grades or not acceptable and he should be included in a plan of action on how to get them to a suitable level.

But leaving a kid home from a family vacation is not going to motivate someone to improve grades.
 
Did he know ahead of time that, if he did not have his grades up to par, he would not be going on the Disneyland trip?

Even if it was a consequence, you might want to reconsider. This is such a hard age for kids, being 13. (I have a 13 year old son too) He should be punished, but with extra chores, and having things taken away (we take away TV, video games and phone, etc.,)
 
The family is planning a trip to DL in less than two weeks. A couple of days ago our DS13 received his report card in the mail. It was horrible to say the least. We are in constant contact with his school and thought we knew what to expect, we were wrong. We usually go to DL 1-2 times a year and we feel that we should leave him with his grandmother as a consequense to his actions however we really hate to.

What would everyone else do? Please weigh in.

Thanks!

If you are taking him out of school for this trip then NO he should not go. If he's on school break anyway then I say take him.
 
My 2c - I don't think his holiday should be dependant upon his grades. It's your family holiday. You could do some compromises though - "tomorrow night we're going to see this show, son reads chapter 4 of text and has room service" or something like that IYKWIM.

But having said that, are his grades lower because he is not academic or has he been slacking off? If he is not academically inclined, or has been trying hard, showing signs of depression or something similar, I wouldn't even entertain the above idea of having some separate time, just enjoy the family time together. Get away from the stress.
 
That's a toughy. For me I'd never put a family trip on the line for punishment - but if you did - well, you need to follow through. If not, I'd find a fitting punishment & just go have fun.

Not sure if you did this but when I was a teen I had weekely progress reports & decided what my priveledges would be when my grades dipped. I haven't had to do anything like this w/ my kids yet (fingers crossed!) as they are still young.
 
Thanks for the opinions everyone. This not a trip a trip of a lifetime, but a family vacation nonetheless. Still not sure what we'll do, we hate to leave him behind in the worst way yet hate to reward him as well when we really ask so little other than to work hard at school and be a good big brother which he is.
 
Why didn't the school provide interim grades to you? Or couldn't you have seen interim test scores?

Lesson learned for both sides here..:surfweb:
 
Same question here. Did you tell him he would not go if his grades were bad? If so stick to your word, if not then I would add a consequence not take something away.

I would add something such as; studying every night in the hotel instead of swimming or tv, extra tutoring at school while not on vacation. Make the punishment fit the situation. But if you said no disney if grades are bad then I think it is VERY important that you stick to your word. Kids need to know you mean what you say or you will be in for more trouble later on. I sort of see it as a no pass, no play.
I would also talk with the teacher again and see why you didn't have a heads up. Is he missing assignments that could be turned in. I know it might not change his grades but at least he would know he is still responsible for them. That would also fit the crime in that case.
Good luck.
Monica
 
No these were the 2nd trimester grades. We already have meeting scheduled but its to late to bring those grades up. It's frustrating, I think we hate the thought of leaving him behind more than he does.
 
We had a similar problem with our family this past summer. Our oldest son tanked his 1st year of college, our second son was feeling stressed out about his life. My husband was stressed about his job/work/life. Plus it was close to his b-day. YIKES it was like our family was fractured. I made a family altering decision. We packed up the van and took an impromptu trip to a neutral place. (San Francisco, I knew our oldest would go there) We spent time as a family, no cell phones, no internet, no video games. Just each other and good food, and some sight seeing to places that have good memories. It was the best thing I could have done. My family felt more together, we could talk about expectations and problems without blowing up and it was neutral, (plus far away from home) so no one could just leave. I think the opportunity to bond as a family was a very good thing. And I know that even though it started out rough, by the time we came home we were a better family unit. It was good and I would do it again if I needed to.
 
everybody on here has made really good points but the one thing that sticks out for me is whether or not you will have to pull him out of school...you havent replied to that yet....if his grades are bad and you are pulling him out of school then it is definitely not a good idea to take him...but if the trip is not going to interfere with school then you should and use it as a time where you can talk to him and find out whats going on....
 
Education is important but IMHO not nearly as valuable as the family time you would miss. I would take him. Perhaps he can relax and offer some insight into what may be the cause of his problems. And maybe he just simply could use a break.

Since it is a family vacation, you do also need to consider how much leaving him behind will affect your vacation. Obviously it will have you upset. How much will his younger sibling/siblings miss out if he doesn't go? School will be there when he gets back but you will never be able to go back and capture the moments he could have spent with his family.

No doubt you can come up with some seperate sort of plan for punishment or bettering his grades thus allowing you to look forward to planning your family vacation without having to put a damper on the whole trip. (hope that makes sense)
 












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