Once Upon A Time

[caribear]

Loved the episode! When Mr. Gold was in jail he told Regina that he will always be more powerful than her.....and she says something like "Don't count on it." So in the end she will use Gold's/Rumple's feeling for Belle to gain the upper hand and rid Gold/Rumple of his powers so she will be the more powerful one. Loved the reference of the chipped cup!!!

 

[charming23]

I loved, loved, loved last night's episode. The last few minutes was some of the best television I had seen for awhile. When he said "Rumplestiltskin", I got chills.

 

[wdwmom0f3]

So the Flower guy was Belles daddy, and Rumple beat him up. Hearing what he said when he was beating him, I think it was more for what he thought he did to Belle than for stealing the cup. So this proves that Mr. Gold knows who he is too right. I really think he knows who everyone is, but Regina doesn't.

With the dad sitting there in the hospital, do you think he will notice Regina going into that area? It may not come out now, but maybe later.

Also, the nurse that was down there. I am thinking that she is Cinderellas step mom, Lady Tremaine, because of that hair.

 

[lizabu]

I don't think Regina/EQ knows everything - she must not know Emma's true identity as Snow & Charming's daughter. True, she's not very nice to Emma, but that's just because she doesn't want Emma taking Henry away from her. If Regina/EQ knew that Emma was Snow & Chaming's daughter, she'd be treating Emma a WHOLE lot worse.

What *we* now know is that both Regina/EQ and Gold/Rumpel know about the curse and who everybody really is in Storebrooke; and each one knows at least one thing that the other doesn't: Rumpel knows Emma's true identity (and Regina doesn't), and Regina knows that Belle is alive (and Rumpel doesn't).



Oh, Regina knew Gold was Rumpel all along. Perhaps she wasn't positive that he knew about the curse, and asking his true name was her way of finding out for sure. Plus, Rumpel seems to gain some "power" or something by knowing people's names, so by forcing Rumpel to tell her his name, Regina/EQ was trying to show she had some power over him.

I agree completely. Names have power in the story Rumpelstiltskin. In the original story the Queen didn't have to give him her baby because she learned his name. We see he tries to learn people's names and it seems like he thinks they are very important. When the EQ asked him his real name I think it gave her some kind of upper hand that we aren't fully aware of yet but he wanted the cup so bad he didn't care and gave it to her anyway.

 

[harleyquinn]

Another "wonder whether" -- he killed Cinderella's fairy godmother so that he could make a deal with Cinderella to get her to the ball. Did Rumple kill the real beast so that he could make a deal with Belle's family?

I like this, tho I'm not so sure he's "killing" people, but rather turning them into objects. Turning the fairy godmother into her wand and Gaston into a rose. Just a thought

Who was the nurse behind the desk? With that hair style, you just know she's a villain.

My first thought was Lady Tremaine or one of the step sisters due to the hair.

Martin slammed the ending of LOST. He felt the pay off didn't live up to the body of work, very few questions were answered..basically he got media attention to express what many fans of the show felt. Anyway, afterwards Damon took to Twitter, and thus the "fued" as it was billed in the media began. Kevin Pollak did a great inteview on his webcast/podcast (Kevin Pollak's Chat Show) with Damon. They talk about this briefly a year after the fact. If you have 2 hours to kill, I highly recommend downloading it. Lots of LOST talk in general, and just a great conversation with Damon.

As much as I hate to say this, there is part of me that is hoping that we are going to get to see some "squirrell baby crazy Claire" in Belle. I doubt it, and that's okay too. I love brave Belle!

You are too funny!! Very interesting on the feud. I wonder if it'll end up be a glass house sort of situation. IF Martin ever finishes GoT, it better be a wonderful ending (which I doubt since it seems like nearly every character is going to die).

I've been finding David wimpier and wimpier -- Hope next week finds his lost testosterone.

I'm just super happy that Belle is alive, because she's my favorite princess and I was really mad that they appeared to have killed her off.

 

[ICF]

So the Flower guy was Belles daddy, and Rumple beat him up. Hearing what he said when he was beating him, I think it was more for what he thought he did to Belle than for stealing the cup. So this proves that Mr. Gold knows who he is too right

Not to mention the fact that he knew his name when Regina asked him.

 

[Riverhill]

When Rumple mentioned his son he said he "lost" him the same way he lost his mother. But in a previous episode it was brought up the Rumple wife left him because he was a coward. Perhaps his son also ran away from him.

 

[BKMETV]

Seriously! I was hoping I wouldn't have to think as hard about this show as LOST, or do a bunch of outside reading. Speaking of which, did anybody catch the title of the book MM and David are reading? I didn't catch it during the broadcast, and the tv the TiVo is hooked up to has a small screen and the image isn't sharp enough for me to read it. Grrr.

I haven't gone back to recheck but I thought he was reading Anna Karenina.

 

[2BigKIdz]

Because the cup is symbol of his relationship with Belle.

I don't think it's his son because when she chipped it, she expected him to go nuts, but he shrugged and said it was just a cup.

He truly seemed not to care. He demonstrated violent anger with her, so if she'd truly broken his son, I can't imagine he would have shrugged it off the way he did.

In the wake of the kiss, he was violent, smashing everything but the one pot and the cup-- which was a tip of the hat to the Disney version. But I think he was sentimental about the cup because it was a symbol of Belle.

This is my feeling as well.

Did anyone else notice the name of the pharmacy, Dark Star? I googled thinking it may have been a Lost reference, I gave up the show around the 3rd season so didn't know if it came from later but it said it is a reference to the Grateful Dead song.

 

[Pixie Princess]

I haven't gone back to recheck but I thought he was reading Anna Karenina.

Thank you!!! I thought that might be it because while I couldn't clearly read the author's name it kinda looked like Leo Tolstoy. For some reason though the title just didn't "read" as Anna Karenina, but it clearly wasn't War and Peace either. Beyond that I know no other Tolstoy. (sad really) I was going to go on Amazon and see if there was a Tolstoy novel that had a similar cover. Actually, now that I think about it, that is the sad part.

 

[Pixie Princess]

When Rumple mentioned his son he said he "lost" him the same way he lost his mother. But in a previous episode it was brought up the Rumple wife left him because he was a coward. Perhaps his son also ran away from him.

I think he did. Unfortunately the TiVo did not work that night, so I don't have that episode, but as I recall his son ran away from him after Rumple kissed that soldier's boot and found out his father had lied to him about his mother.

 

[wdwmom0f3]

When Rumple mentioned his son he said he "lost" him the same way he lost his mother. But in a previous episode it was brought up the Rumple wife left him because he was a coward. Perhaps his son also ran away from him.

I think he did. Unfortunately the TiVo did not work that night, so I don't have that episode, but as I recall his son ran away from him after Rumple kissed that soldier's boot and found out his father had lied to him about his mother.

I think you are both right. I think the boy was scared of his dad when he turned into this evil person. Same for the wife. He gave everything he loved up so that he could no longer be called a coward. I don't think they have been killed, but I could be wrong.

This was funny to me because of what Belle said in the last episode. She called him a coward for not believing that someone could love him, or something like that. In other words, he would regret letting her go for the rest of his life. I think that's true too, since he has charished "Chip" for all of this time.

 

[EMom]

Noticed a few funny references.

When Rumple is yelling into the mirror, the tapestry that is reflected has a unicorn lying inside a fence. That tapestry is in Harry Potter (its actually in the queue for WWOHP at Universal).

Also the flower van is named Game of Thorn's (Game of Thrones)

And finally when the EQ is confronting Rumple at the end, isn't that MIckey's sorcerer hat behind the EQ?

Geez, this whole show is an easter egg.

I am pretty sure that tapestry is The Lady and the Unicorn from The Cluny Museum in Paris. Well......not the REAL one....

 

[Pixie Princess]

I've been finding David wimpier and wimpier -- Hope next week finds his lost testosterone.

As annoying as David is, he has to be that way. If he were more like PC, he'd leave Katherine and there would be a happy ending for he and Mary Margaret. His wish washiness has served to keep them apart. Doesn't make watching it any easier though.

You are too funny!! Very interesting on the feud. I wonder if it'll end up be a glass house sort of situation. IF Martin ever finishes GoT, it better be a wonderful ending (which I doubt since it seems like nearly every character is going to die).

In that Kevin Pollak interview I mentioned, Damon said, if his ending was so bad that it causes Martin to change the way he ends GoT, that is pretty cool. He is huge fan of Martin, and after the "feud" died down it dawned on him this guy I've idolized loved my show.

 

[starwood]

It looks like next week is the Lady in the Lake. Could the sword in Rumples house be Excalibur?

 

[carrie6466]

Love this show! Never realized this board was here. I don't manage to get myself this far down the boards much.

Rumplestiltskin's son left when Rumple got his magic powers.

I don't care for David anymore. I really am starting to lose interest in that part of the storyline. It's kind of boring. I was a big David fan when he first woke up, but now? Ehhh

The other character I don't care much for is Ruby. I don't even get why she is there, other than them wanting to call the B & B Granny's.

I thought the coolest thing so far was seeing the Minnie Mouse doll in one of the rooms in Fairytale land.

Is next week Lady of the Lake (my dh thinks so, too) or is it Ariel? I know somewhere in this episode they made mention of a mermaid.

 

[BDL]

IMDB has now given the Stanger a name:

"Stranger / August W. Booth"

From what I've been reading on the thread so far, most people think that he is either the Big Bad Wolf or 1 of the Brothers Grimm. Well, I've been looking at the name and nothing is really leaping out at me except his middle initial.

W = Wolf

W = Wilhelm (1 of the Brothers Grimm's first name)

Anyone else got any theories?

 

[EMom]

IMDB has now given the Stanger a name:

"Stranger / August W. Booth"

From what I've been reading on the thread so far, most people think that he is either the Big Bad Wolf or 1 of the Brothers Grimm. Well, I've been looking at the name and nothing is really leaping out at me except his middle initial.

W = Wolf

W = Wilhelm (1 of the Brothers Grimm's first name)

Anyone else got any theories?

I posted a while back that it seemed the Stranger was one of the Brothers Grimm because he was a writer, except there should be two of them. Maybe he is.

I think Ruby's story is still to come.

 

[EMom]

I am pretty sure that tapestry is The Lady and the Unicorn from The Cluny Museum in Paris. Well......not the REAL one....

I'm sure if you Google this term (Lady and the Unicorn) you can see the tapestry. It's part of a gorgeous series of tapestries from the 15th century that we saw in The Cluny Museum in Paris. You see reproductions everywhere.

 

[Glynis]

Does anyone else think the fact that MM and David are both reading Anna Karinina means there's going to be a tragedy regarding that story? Given how Anna ends up, that could be a bit worrying.

Also, at the end, after the EQ told Rumple that Belle was dead, he removed the cup from his cupboard, and took it to a pedestal. He replaced a silver chalice with the cup. Does the chalice have any significance?