Once cruise lines are given the ok to sail

[Weedy]

How long do you think it will take to get up and sailing?
Do you think they will do one ship at a time?
How many employees will return? Vs new cast members
It will be a huge re training curve.
Just like going on a new ship a lot of fun and excitement but lots of oops
I think a lot of people will just be so excited to sail again that they will overlook some things
PLEASE!!
DON’T LET THIS THIS BECOME ANOTHER MASK DEBATE. THERE ARE PLENTY OF THOSE

 

[sullivan.kscott]

Yeah when our Eastern Fantasy was the first scheduled return cruise, we weren’t about to be that maiden voyage and delayed again.

My understanding of the CDC return to sailing order is that we’ll have plenty of “warning” for each ship because each ship and her crew must pass through the process. Whether that is new crew or recalled/renewed crew I don’t know.

Maybe, if the pandemic wanes in the coming months, larger lines like RCI and CCL can rush through the later ships to return. But early on the process for each ship will be laborious and individual, and will likely apply to any DCL sailings on each ship out of the US.

 

[tvguy]

I wonder if any knows if any cruise line has even submitted a proposal yet to do test sailing? Regulations require that be done 2 months in advance of the sailing date. If that is the case, the first test cruises couldn't happen until February 17. If they go well, who knows how long it will take to get everything together staffing wise, and getting passengers confirmed to start actual cruises. One problem and it all gets shutdown
Give that the pandemic is worse today that it has every been, and it took us 9 months to get to this point and the unknown still in the first week of vaccines, we'll be lucky to be able to just THINK about resuming normally cruising in September.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

The guidance from the CDC gives most of the necessary minimum timelines.

Test cruises have to be done on each ship requesting a sailing certificate, and test sailings have to be "real" in every way but that passengers cannot be charged for the privilege of being guinea pigs. So they have to be fully staffed, and activities that will occur on a real sailing have to occur on the test sail.

A plan that is submitted has to be at least 60 days in front of the test sail, and the test sail can be failed and the line required to do additional test runs. Crewing up also requires pretty stringent crew quarantine coming in.

So you are realistically looking at a minimum of 90 days from starting to restaff to possibly, possibly being able to do a real sailing. And that's if everything goes right on the test sail.

 

[jlwhitney]

I don’t see most of them starting back till restrictions and masks are removed IMO.

 

[bunnm09]

I don’t see most of them starting back till restrictions and masks are removed IMO.

i think masks are going to be around for most of 2021 and the cruise lines definitely don’t want to go another year without income. They will sail as soon as they can I’m sure

 

[jlwhitney]

i think masks are going to be around for most of 2021 and the cruise lines definitely don’t want to go another year without income. They will sail as soon as they can I’m sure

We shall see, it’s gonna be hard to also make a profit with all the restrictions

 

[pumpkinqueen93]

I don't know. There's no telling when they will return. It will be sad though if they end up going a whole year without sailing. Pretty close to an official year with canceled sailing through the end of February. I saw it coming that they would cancel sailings over 7 nights. Hopefully the announcements of canceled sailings will come to an end sometime in 2021. I'm sure they want to get back to running as soon as possible but with what is required it's going to take some time. Getting staff back, quarantining them and training them, doing test sailings.

 

[tvguy]

i think masks are going to be around for most of 2021 and the cruise lines definitely don’t want to go another year without income. They will sail as soon as they can I’m sure

The masks sticking around isn't surprising. In some nations it is common for people who are ill and out in public to wear a mask, has been that way for decades. And the role of vaccines may be diminished at least in the short term because now they say they will only have about 60% of what they expected available.

 

[jlwhitney]

The masks sticking around isn't surprising. In some nations it is common for people who are ill and out in public to wear a mask, has been that way for decades. And the role of vaccines may be diminished at least in the short term because now they say they will only have about 60% of what they expected available.

There is a huge difference to wearing a mask when sick(and really only common in Asian countries) and what we are doing now where you have to wear them every where even when you aren't close to people. Also in China they wear masks because their air quality is poor.

 

[tvguy]

There is a huge difference to wearing a mask when sick(and really only common in Asian countries) and what we are doing now where you have to wear them every where even when you aren't close to people. Also in China they wear masks because their air quality is poor.

I don't know, wearing a mask hasn't been an issue for me. But my mom was a surgical nurse, and wore a mask 40 hours a week for 40 years at work.

 

[jlwhitney]

I don't know, wearing a mask hasn't been an issue for me. But my mom was a surgical nurse, and wore a mask 40 hours a week for 40 years at work.

Okay....it is to many people and its very different wearing one for a job then spending thousands for a vacation to have to wear one.

 

[tvguy]

Okay....it is to many people and its very different wearing one for a job then spending thousands for a vacation to have to wear one.

It may be the new reality. I'm old enough to have learned to drive on a car that didn't come from the factory with seat belts, and the first car I bought was a 1974 model which had interlocks on them so you couldn't start the car without fastening your seatbelt. Then the state laws required there us. People had similar issues back then, that they seem to have gotten over. They wear their seatbelts

 

[jlwhitney]

It may be the new reality. I'm old enough to have learned to drive on a car that didn't come from the factory with seat belts, and the first car I bought was a 1974 model which had interlocks on them so you couldn't start the car without fastening your seatbelt. Then the state laws required there us. People had similar issues back then, that they seem to have gotten over. They wear their seatbelts

Still not the same thing. Masks take away physical identity , there is reason criminals cover their face. Seat belts don't do that.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

i think masks are going to be around for most of 2021 and the cruise lines definitely don’t want to go another year without income. They will sail as soon as they can I’m sure

I think "cruise lines" and "DCL" are different propositions, though. DCL may very well stay largely dark.

DCL is a rounding error within the company income sheet, which is very different than when you look at Carnival or Royal. All of parks/experiences is about equal to the revenue from entertainment when looking at WDC. DCL is part of that "all of parks/experiences," as is ABD, and both are quite minor compared to parks even within that parks/experiences group.

 

[jlwhitney]

I think "cruise lines" and "DCL" are different propositions, though. DCL may very well stay largely dark.

DCL is a rounding error within the company income sheet, which is very different than when you look at Carnival or Royal. All of parks/experiences is about equal to the revenue from entertainment when looking at WDC. DCL is part of that "all of parks/experiences," as is ABD, and both are quite minor compared to parks even within that parks/experiences group.

I agree and the price of DCL is so much higher too and mainly families and a high percent of first time DCL cruisers on many sailings. Who is going to spend 5K plus for their family to have to wear masks everywhere and not even have the classic cruise photos seeing theirs faces, let alone pay for them. And for all cruise lines I can't even imagine how they will handle staffing, they live in such cramp quarters, are they going to literally have to wear a mask at all times when not sleeping or eating (but even that is a logistical nightmare). With less guests on board they will need a few less staff but not enough to make a huge dent in their cramp quarters.

 

[tvguy]

Still not the same thing. Masks take away physical identity , there is reason criminals cover their face. Seat belts don't do that.

Not sure that has become an issue yet. Most recent video I saw of a robbery the guy didn't try to disguise himself. A lot of criminals here are either fearless or just stupid

 

[_auroraborealis_]

You'd think the civil liberties crowd would be excited about thwarting facial tracking softwares...

 

[jlwhitney]

Not sure that has become an issue yet. Most recent video I saw of a robbery the guy didn't try to disguise himself. A lot of criminals here are either fearless or just stupid

There is still the side that people want to see each others faces, its part of the social side of human beings. And mask laws in the states will be extremly hard to pass once the emergency orders are dropped.

 

[tvguy]

There is still the side that people want to see each others faces, its part of the social side of human beings. And mask laws in the states will be extremly hard to pass once the emergency orders are dropped.

There will soon be a new Sheriff in town and it may not be states but the feds.