Oh me, oh my-does baby Suri really exist???update now aka "The Suri Challenge"

[graygables]

I wonder...does THAT fit under his jacket, too???

 

[sandramaac]

I am not trying to tell you what is more believable, I am simply demonstrating that some thought has gone into my opinions and it is a bit more than "drinking the Kool-Aid." I think that we both have valid points and that is one of the reasons this issue is so fun to debate. If it was cut and dry then who the heck would even care to discuss it? This thread would be pretty darned boring if that were the case.

You seem so convinced that I haven't read the thread. Like it's totally inconceivable to you that I could have read it and come to a different conclusion. That's what I don't get!

woah here>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ​

Ok, I am going to jump in here, as the starter of the thread. Please don't take this thread too serious, as it seems you are doing. It was started all in good fun, and everyone seems to be having a good time keeping up with it. Please feel free to participate in our mindless kool aid induced banter, and please not try to read more into what folks are saying. Its all in fun.

Have a great "suri" day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[CindyCan]

Found this morning...they're listening to us!!

(Bolding/italics are mine)

At last, Suri Cruise...

At last, Suri Cruise is revealed - but is it enough to save Daddy's image?
LEE-ANNE GOODMAN

September 06, 2006

TORONTO (CP) - After months of speculation about her very existence, Suri Cruise has been unveiled on the glossy pages of Vanity Fair magazine alongside her beaming parents, mega-star Tom Cruise and his girlfriend, Katie Holmes.

But is it enough for Cruise to undo the damage he's caused to his career and reputation after a year of couch-jumping, love-professing, Scientology-espousing and Brooke-Shields-baiting?

At first glance, not yet. Instead of silencing caustic celebrity-watchers, the photos of the 4 1/2-month-old infant, with her thatch of thick dark hair, prompted even more ridicule Wednesday about the allegedly publicity-mad ways of her father. The shots have also raised further questions on gossip blogs and websites about Suri's true parentage.

Among the observations?

-Suri looks older than she was when the photos were taken.

-Suri looks like two different babies in the October issue of Vanity Fair - just like the sets of twins television and movie producers routinely use to portray one infant character.

-And one of those Suris looks ... well ... Asian in descent.

"As much as everybody was hoping she'd turn out to be an animatronic Cabbage Patch Kid, the truth is she's just flat-out beautiful. And possibly Asian," reads a post on the gossip website The Superficial (www.superficial.com).

Canadian gossip chronicler Elaine Lui, the woman behind Lainey's Entertainment Update (www.laineygossip.com), agrees.

"The child is absolutely adorable. Gorgeous, actually," she writes. "But then again, perhaps I'm biased? Is it just me or do you see a subtle trace of my people in her features?"

Lui, in Toronto to cover the Toronto International Film Festival for CTV, says Cruise has a long way to go to mend his seriously wounded public persona if the hostile buzz on the web is any indication.

"Today, the debate is already raging all over the Internet - who does the baby look like, does she look like the parents, does she look like any of her ex-boyfriends, how old was the baby - these photos were apparently taken in July and some people think the child looks too big to be only three months old."

But Lui says Cruise is on the right track following the charm offensive he's been mounting in recent weeks. In the days after Paramount's Sumner Redstone stunningly severed ties with one of Hollywood's biggest stars because of the actor's bizarre behaviour, Cruise is apparently trying to repair his image.

He sent Rosie O'Donnell a bouquet of flowers as she began her stint on The View on Tuesday, and he's apologized to Brooke Shields.

Shields famously sparred with Cruise after he publicly assailed her for going on antidepressants following a bout with postpartum depression. Scientologists are against psychiatry and psychiatric drugs of any kind.

Shields revealed this week that Cruise came to her home recently to deliver a "heart-felt" apology for his attack - albeit more than a year later, and shortly after he was publicly humiliated by Paramount.

Nonetheless, Lui says, Cruise is playing his cards wisely.

"He's fighting back - he's salvaging what he can and he's doing it quite well," she said.

But she adds there's one absolute necessity if Cruise is to completely rehabilitate his image: he has to stop talking publicly about Scientology. (My note: but we all know he CAN'T stop talking about it. It's part of the whole religion & his thetan level, right CathrynRose?)

"We are all religious and we don't push it on other people, and the way he did it was really offensive to other people. As long as he doesn't talk about it, he's going to be fine."

She adds that beyond the sneering celebrity tabloids and gossip websites, Cruise is still extremely popular among a large demographic of women she calls the Minivan Majority.

"When he did the couch-jumping on Oprah and all of us were watching in horror, there were women in the aisles on Oprah screaming and practically fainting," she recalls.

"These are women who believe that celebrities really are just like us and there's no such thing as a spin doctor. They still love Tom Cruise, and people should not be writing him off."

Not sure who the "Minivan Majority" are....I drive a minivan & I've NEVER thought Cruise was "all that". I watched his movies, but I'm more an Orlando Bloom-Johnny Depp PIRATE kind of girl!!

 

[Imzadi]

 

[Imzadi]

TOM CRUISE (allegedly): Please DO keep "debating" with the trolls. It will be "fun" when this thread gets shut down by the Mods. Forget the amazing timing, that after 89,000+ views & over 2200 posts, now that pics of Suri have actually appeared and people are posting side-by-side comparisons to Kate's last 2 boyfriends, inflammatory posters suddenly appear with what start out to be normal looking posts at first, but turn out to be the ONLY thread one has posted to in the last 2 days.

Posters like these have amazingly, coincidentally been showing up on all other Suri-Gate forums, now that the pics have been released and people are getting too close to possible real theories. All the bickering has turned many of the regulars away - sliding what should be one of the hottest, fun Page 1 threads to Page 4. It will be beautiful when all these threads are closed all over the Internet before the nationwide release of Vanity Fair on September 12 and more people would have seen the pics of Chris Klein than have seen my last 2 movies.

Without these threads, no side-by-side comparisons, doctors weighing in on Suri's size & weight for 4 months old, Kate, Suri, the other kids & I can go back to playing in the front yard. I tear up thinking about it. It will be beautiful, just beautiful... until we need to manufacture a new media event.


ummm...BTW, I'm only 5'7".

 

[Nancy]

Too funny!!




psssttt: Mr. Cruise, come out of the closet.

 

[my4kids]

OK, I'm back! I'm still a little dizzy, but I'll report what I got.

It took quite a bit to find an issue of Vanity Fair. I walked around the city for quite a bit. I finally found myself in front of the Scientology/Dianetics Center here. They were standing out front holding the mag saying I could get a free peek if I sat & chatted with them. I figured, I'd go in, chat, not sign anything & take one for the Team.

They sat me at a table next to one of those Playskool blue toy thingies and kept offering me some punch to drink. I refused of course. But after a while, because I was so parched from wandering around the city, I thought a couple of sips couldn't hurt. It actually had a super sweet, medicinal taste, like cough syrup. I actually didn't want more than a few sips.

Ummm, that's kind of the last thing I remember... I looked down at my watch & it was suddenly 2 hours later. I don't know what happened! And there was a huge, thick book lying nearby with my name on it.

As for the Suri pics, all I can say is, "She is the most beautiful, amazing baby I ever saw. Quite normal looking. She has a head full of very thick, black hair.

Oh Gees, Imzadi.....now you done it, you brought me back - I stayed away for almost 2 days! - I was not going to waste anymore time talking about the crazy cruiser and I just popped in to see what the bickering was about and you had to go and make me laugh . Alright, maybe I'm not done with this thread. But I swear I'm not going to spend as much time here.

 

[wideeyes]

http://datelinehollywood.com/archives/2006/09/05/suri-cruise-photo-revealed-to-be-a-fake/

SURI CRUISE PHOTO REVEALED TO BE A FAKE

Hollywood — Dateline Hollywood has uncovered the shocking truth behind the Vanity Fair cover that shows Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes and their alleged daughter, Suri. It turns out the photo of Suri was actually lifted from a Sears Studio portrait catalog, renewing speculation that Suri does not exist.

Few recent celebrity subjects have produced as much tabloid copy as questions about the existence and well-being of baby Suri. Cruise and Holmes were hoping the Vanity Fair photos would put to rest the rumors of their daughter’s non-existence.

“I’ve looked at both photos, and there’s no doubt in my mind that the Vanity Fair photo is bogus,” said Donald Reed, a photograph expert who worked on the Warren Commission Report on the JFK Assassination. “The supposed photo of Suri came from a Sears Studio portrait catalog. I’m so disappointed because I, like the rest of the world, was anxiously waiting to see Suri. Now I know that baby’s head just came from some normal non-celebrity family.”

Publicists for Cruise and Holmes have not returned Dateline Hollywood’s calls. But Dateline Hollywood was contacted by George Loewy, a Sears photographer who says he took the photo of the baby in question back in 1998.

“I saw the photo on the news last night, and there was something about Cruise’s baby that reminded me of someone,” said Loewy. “I went back into my files and did a search, and not only did I realize how long I’ve been stuck taking baby photos, but I also discovered the baby that I recognized on Vanity Fair.”

Lowe says he remembered the photo session in 1998 because the baby was extremely difficult.

“I just couldn’t get that damn kid to smile,” said Loewy. “A lot of people don’t realize this, but most babies are total *******s. I finally got the beginning of a smile, and that’s when I snapped the photo. It was a nice serene look. Sears liked it so much they put it on their website and several catalogs. For my efforts, I got a $25 gift certificate at the Cinnabon in the mall.”

Suri was supposedly born after months of nonstop publicity generated by Cruise and his new lady love including an appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show by the actor in which he declared his love for Holmes by jumping on a couch.

“I don’t know what to believe anymore,” said Emily McElroy, a Tom Cruise fan. “I’m shaken to the core. I haven’t felt this depressed since I watched a DVD of ‘Legend.’”

 

[KristiKelly]

DING DING DING, I think we have a winner (umm, I mean Daddy).

By the way, who are these folks who have hijacked our thread? Party Poopers.

 

[wideeyes]

another one http://datelinehollywood.com/archiv...elds-slips-tom-cruise-psychiatric-medication/

BROOKE SHIELDS SLIPS TOM CRUISE PSYCHIATRIC MEDICATION

Hollywood – During their meeting last week, Brooke Shields slipped Tom Cruise an anti-psychotic drug in his coffee, Dateline Hollywood has learned. Friends say that could explain why the star has been sitting calmly on couches and recently removed daughter Suri from a protective pod.

According to sources close to both actors, Cruise went to Shields’ home last Thursday after she complained of a rash of recent medical problems and invited him over to discuss whether anti-depressants she had taken might be the cause. But after Shields’ husband Chris Henchy brought Cruise a cup of coffee, the conversation turned dramatically.

“Apparently the coffee helped him take a moment to reflect and realize that the American Psychiatric Association and millions of patients may be correct that anti-psychotic drugs can have positive benefits,” said Shields. The actress denied allegations that drugs used to treat schizophrenia were slipped into Cruise’s coffee, noting that she brewed the pot personally.

Numerous sources confirmed that the coffee was spiked, however, and friends of Cruise say that could explain his irrational behavior.

“First he apologized to Brooke Shields for pointing out that she was poisoning her mind with products from the psychiatric drug-pushing industry and now he’s talking about taking his baby outside in the sunlight,” said Om Naring, one of the star’s personal behavior monitors assigned by the Church of Scientology. “Something is very wrong with him.”

Amongst other unusual behavior: Cruise recently addressed Katie Holmes directly, instead of allowing a Scientology “relationship aide” to transmit messages between the two. He has also missed his last three appointments to have his e-meter reading taken, citing a desire to spend time on his new production company that recently left Paramount, as well as to spend time with his lover and child. Most shockingly, he recently sat still on a couch next to producing partner Paula Wagner for 25 straight minutes during a business meeting without standing or jumping on the cushions.

“It’s like the cloud that was always around his mind has been lifted,” observed Naring. “That’s no way to live.”

 

[tekmom]

DING DING DING, I think we have a winner (umm, I mean Daddy).

By the way, who are these folks who have hijacked our thread? Party Poopers.[/QUOTE

Yes...and it makes sense. If she had been preggo by Chris Klein, she would have told him. After all, They were together for 5 years, but she was only"dating" Josh for maybe two weeks and then... BOOM...Tom Cruise. I think if she were to have gotten pregnant by Josh Hartnett, she might not have known until she had entered into a girlfriend "arrangment" with Tom. Luckily for her, that kooky Tom, rolled with it and thanks to an at home ultrasound, to keep check on baby's growth, no one knew exactly how pregnant she was. I'm figuring late December birth and padding until it was convenient to give birth to you know who.

 

[deelam]

I love this thread!!!!

On the radio again today, they were saying about the possiblity that Chris Klien could be the Daddy. They even mentioned that Katie might have been wearing fake padding to look pregnant and the baby was born earlier than thought.
Apparenly, the photo shoot only cause more doubt about Tommy.

 

[rhanditresmom]

Yay! Let's have fun again! Interesting how the media is really looking at bloggers and message boards, isn't it. Of course, we are the most interesting of the bunch!

We love the controversy.


.....and, we HAVE learned a lot about Scientology (thanks to CathrynRose and the others who have dedicated their time and bodies to the cause), so this is an educational thread as well.

(that is how I justify reading while at work.... )

 

[CathrynRose]

HA!

Shorty! LOLOLOL! Little weasel.... LOLOLOL!

 

[CathrynRose]

HA! Very good!

We need to start using "allegedly" again, and quick!

 

[CathrynRose]

DING DING DING, I think we have a winner (umm, I mean Daddy).

By the way, who are these folks who have hijacked our thread? Party Poopers.

I dunno.... wet blankets!

 

[poppinspal]

She was never cute and all-american. She was just a damned good actress. She should have won an emmy!! LOL

I have to disagree. MTV once did a show where they followed her around and I couldn't believe how all-american she was.

My other thought about Katie(I refuse to drop the I) is how freaked out she must be. I'm only a few years younger then her(I think) and I just keep thinking if I was in her position I'd be feeling pretty trapped. The best day of her life will be the day she gets away from Tom.

 

[CEDmom]

I just wanted to come on and tell all of you I LOVE this thread. It's amazing and funny and amazing and well just amazing .

 

[WldWcnWmn]

So ya'll what do we think about Suri with the fringe on top?

Is it theirs? Was Katie (yeah I used the "I") pregnant by Tom?

They say the pictures are a month old... so isn't that baby kinda' big for 120 days old?

Did it just take that long to find the perfect adopted child that looks like them both?

Think SNL Church lady here..."Could it be.....Satan? Hmmmm?

What do we think, we DIsers who knew all along something was fishy...




Hey...7 days until my Cruise! Whoo Hoo

 

[DisneyGirl4188]

I have to disagree. MTV once did a show where they followed her around and I couldn't believe how all-american she was.

I saw that show too. She was baking cookies with her mom and she seemed normal. Now, she is caught up in a freak show.

My other thought about Katie(I refuse to drop the I) is how freaked out she must be. I'm only a few years younger then her(I think) and I just keep thinking if I was in her position I'd be feeling pretty trapped. The best day of her life will be the day she gets away from Tom.

I agree. It's like she's in an abusive relationship. Many people in those can't/won't leave out of fear. If Kat(i)e signed an agreement with this nut, then she may think she has no way out.