Oh me, oh my-does baby Suri really exist???update now aka "The Suri Challenge"

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momrek06 said:
I think they probably knew he was suffering with some ailment...pinned it on the chemicals...and now it has come out to the public that it is in reality Autism.

I have said this before on this Thread and I will say it again...I certainly hope the Travolta's get Jet the help he needs if indeed it is Autism.

Y'know - I know that Autism has no 'known' cause (am I correct?) HOWEVER, I cant imagine isolating the baby for 7 days(or who in heck knows how long) so it isnt "traumatized" after birth is very healthy. Nor do we know - as none of us are active members of a Scientology Church, what exactly goes on in their "audits" and what is it they do to kids minds!!!

I read (from a link posted here) about making/having children work (like labor-work), and it was in the Scientologist's handbook.

I dont know. I tend to wonder if it's autism - or just a screwed up kid cuz of their goofy weird practices. Which is very very sad.

Juliette Lewis was raised as a Scientologist from birth on. She's a bit....odd, wouldnt you say?

Again, Ive said this on other threads of this nature, Germany and many other countries in Europe consider Scientology a cult. They do NOT get tax breaks, or anything else for that matter.
 
:happytv: Wow... great reading people! Thanks for all the laughs!

I cant wait to see this whole sage played out....
 
honey can cause infant botulism when given to infants under twelve months of age

My parents gave me and my brothers honey before we were 12 months old (put our pacifier (that's the right word?) in it!) and we didn't die because of it.




Hmm, since my idea about becoming paparazzis ourself wasn't apparantly the greatest one: what if we all "joined" Scientology? You know, like undercover agents? We could play "Alias" AND find out what's the deal with Suri AND if there is a Suri, make pictures of her!!!
 
Jeez Louise - I completely ignored all the Suri stories until now - this is some compelling, if not totally bizarre, reading. ;)
 

Disney1fan2002 said:
Ok, look what I found about Scientology and breastfeeding:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology

Silent birth and infant care
Main article: Silent birth
Hubbard stated that the delivery room should be as silent as possible during birth. This stems from his belief that birth is a trauma that may induce engrams into the baby. Hubbard asserted that words in particular should be avoided because he stated that any words used during birth might be reassociated by an adult later on in life with their earlier traumatic birth experience. Hubbard also wrote that the mother should use "as little anaesthetic as possible". According to Hubbard, babies should not be bathed after birth, but should be wrapped up tightly and left alone for a day or so. Hubbard also wrote that breastfeeding should be avoided (in contravention of common medical advice, which stresses its importance for the health of both the mother and the child[34]). As an alternative, Hubbard offered a concoction which he called the "Barley Formula", made from barley water, homogenized milk, and corn syrup or honey. Hubbard claims that "I picked it up in Roman days." (Corn syrup is made from maize grain, which was unknown to Europeans before colonization of the New World.) [35] However, this formula is potentially unsafe; honey can cause infant botulism when given to infants under twelve months of age.[36][37][38] Apart from safety issues, the formula would lack vital nutrients, IgA antibodies, and other components of human breast milk.39]

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Interesting - Interesting - Interesting!!!

The whole thing - so creepy and weird.
 
Why do I get this feeling of saddness whenever I see a photo of Katie? She looks completely trapped. Her eyes scream "help me!"
 
I use to work for a couple (they owned their own business) and her sister and dh tried to "rescue" their daughter. They hired some people who "rescued" people from cults, etc. They did fail and she got away and it was her dad that grabbed her and tried it force her in the van and she fought him and got away. Very sad situation. But there are groups out there that do do this.
 
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Thought you might like this. The one on the left is from march 25 and the one on the right was taken on april.

That's just weird.
 
Besides why do you care if they care? But then why do they care if you care what they care about? I think that made sense.

But why do you care that he cares that you care? And why do you care if they care what he cares about what they care about?

Sorry, could't help it. ;)
 
Daxx said:
What the heck are we going to do *if* they ever release a photo of Suri?!!? What will we talk about!??! :rotfl:

Well, we could then move on to the obvious lifts Tommy boy wears in his shoes. Where he bought them, how much they cost and what shoes they work best in. All the shoe lifts I have ever heard of only raise your height by an inch or so. Tommy's must be custom made. :confused3 :confused3


WANTED: Still seeking short, white female baby with dark hair,big nose, biggish feet long enough to extend from side of stroller, and the ability to digest honey.
Still prefer REAL parents to be athletic prone,and not taking any Flintstones vitamins. Religion not important-"as anyone can be a Scientologist" and DISCREET,VERY DISCREET.
Have your people contact Oprahs people who will then contact my people for further instructions.
 
my4kids said:
Bigger question, Why do you care why we care?
For me it is not that they are "stars" (I use that term lightly)
It is more the mystery and the freak watch of it all.
Like watching a train crashing.
Really i don't "care" - I'm just amused.

Exactly. It's like a wreck on the highway - you know you shouldn't look, but you just can't turn away. :teeth:
 
ChristmasElf said:
WANTED: Still seeking short, white female baby with dark hair,big nose, biggish feet long enough to extend from side of stroller, and the ability to digest honey.
Still prefer REAL parents to be athletic prone,and not taking any Flintstones vitamins. Religion not important-"as anyone can be a Scientologist" and DISCREET,VERY DISCREET.
Have your people contact Oprahs people who will then contact my people for further instructions.

You had me at "feet long enough to extend from side of stroller". But you owned me at "ability to digest honey". :rotfl: :rotfl2:
 
ChristmasElf said:
What if the baby isn't Katie's either? For all we know, the EGG and the SPERM were donated. Maybe that was the big agreement. Kind of like Michael Jackson and Debbie Rowe.

MAybe Cruise figured if he could get someone (Katie) to carry the baby using someone elses egg-she wouldn't get "attached" to the child and it would be easier to get rid of Holmes later on down the road when people got tired of talking about Cruise and the baby.

Hmm....that's a totally interesting theory!!

:wave:

Beca
 
lsyorke said:
No board of Nursing is going to release license numbers to the Tabloids AND identify an uninvolved nurse by name! What a bunch of garbage.


Actually, your license number is a matter of public record. I can look up a few of my friends' numbers online right now... So, while I agree it is unethical to publish the name, it certainly isn't impossible information to come by!

What a mystery this baby is!!!

Tracy
 
Question about Jett Travolta. Was he just recently thought to be autistic? I'm asking because he was born in 1992 I believe. Making him 14 yrs old. Is that REALLY kind of old to just start to wonder if he's autistic?
 
I had heard rumors for years that there was something not right with him. You don't really see that many pics of him, and it seemed like Travolta didn't talk about him too much.
 
Kelly Preston


Each month, iParenting.com spotlights a mother who inspires and moves us, who embodies the qualities that we all admire in a person, a woman and a mother. Above all, the Mom of the Month is dedicated to her children. Rich or poor, famous or not, she shines as an example of what mothering is all about.

May's Mom of the Month is actor Kelly Preston, supportive wife to actor John Travolta and loving mother of son Jett, 10, and daughter Ella Bleu, 2. She shared her life, including her work for the Children's Health Environmental Coalition (CHEC), with iParenting Media's Editor-in-Chief, Elisa Ast All.



Kelly Preston is nothing short of inspirational. Warm, generous and funny, Preston is a mom with a heart that beats to the rhythm of the world’s children. Using her high visibility as an actor, she helps raise awareness of the potential harmful effects of chemicals we, as parents, use each and every day in our homes – chemicals that could be endangering our children’s lives.

Preston’s personal life has been equally exciting. Briefly married to actor Kevin Gage in the 1980s, she’s had relationships with actors George Clooney and Charlie Sheen. But it was in 1991 that she wed her true love, actor John Travolta. The two had their first child, Jett Travolta, in 1992, and their second, daughter Ella Bleu Travolta, in 2000. The children changed her life personally and professionally.

“I’ve wanted to have babies since I was 11,” Preston says. “I always babysat. I was making thousands and thousands of dollars doing commercials and still babysitting for $2.50 an hour.”

A Health Crisis Gives Birth to a Cause
Her love of children – her own and other people’s kids – shows in everything she does. But it wasn’t until her own child, Jett, went through a health crisis that she put her love to work. “Jett’s whole immune system shut down, and he got really sick with high fevers, 104 and 105,” she says. “I kept taking him into the doctor and they didn’t know what was wrong with him. He developed a rash on his body, swollen lymph glands – it was horrible.” Preston kept taking Jett in to the doctor’s office every couple of days, but he was not getting better. Finally, the doctor did some research and came up with a preliminary diagnosis: Kawasaki’s Syndrome. According to the Miller-Keane Medical Dictionary, Kawasaki’s is “an illness of unknown etiology affecting primarily children, and characterized by high fever, macroerythematous rash, cervical lymph node swelling, and pain.”

Preston took Jett to Children’s Hospital in Los Angeles, where the diagnosis was confirmed. “And lo and behold, they don’t know how you acquire it, and lo and behold, there were tons of kids in the ICU with Kawasaki’s,” Preston says. “I’d never even heard of it. And they give you a questionnaire with about 50 questions on it. I went and talked to everybody – every single parent – and everyone had cleaned their carpets in the last couple of weeks. That was one of the questions. So I don’t know what the correlation is … I’m just saying we need to know more.”

Jett’s recovery was slow, but steady. “We went through a really touch-and-go period, then he ended up getting better [after a few months],” she says. “But he has lots of allergies, and has had an asthma attack before. Lots of sensitivities.” Because of these issues, the Preston-Travolta household became a chemical-free zone. “We don’t have any chemicals in the house. We’re 90 percent organic, though there’s some canned foods, a little bit of junk food here and there.”

But the cleaning products are all organic – especially when cleaning carpets. Preston had just cleaned her carpets prior to Jett’s illness. “I’m a big proponent of not chemically cleaning your carpets,” she says. “When Jett was little … he would drop food on the carpets, the carpets would get dirty. You need to clean the carpets like you’re taught, so that it’s safe for your baby. They say that once the chemicals dry, that it’s no longer a risk – and that’s not true. They continue gassing off for months and months and months.” And this gas, she notes, is bad for babies. “Their crawl zone is within a foot from the carpet and even if they’re walking, they’re short, so they’re breathing it in. It’s very dangerous for young children and the elderly, is what I’ve researched and found out, and those with weakened immune systems. Any chemical cleaning.”

So what are you supposed to do if you have chemicals in your carpet? “You can clean your carpets, get the same people, and have them empty their tank and only use hot water,” Preston says. “It’s brilliant. Or you can use a product called Mystical, that is also brilliant. It’s a nontoxic cleanser that gets everything out. It’s genius.”



Click here to see the natural products Preston and Travolta use in their household.

Working on Behalf of the Children
Because of her frightening – and enlightening – experience with Jett, Preston became committed to informing other parents of potential health hazards in the environment, and protecting other children. Her work with the Children’s Health Environmental Coalition (CHEC), a national non-profit organization dedicated to educating parents and caregivers about environmental toxins that affect children's health, allows her to spread her message in a powerful way. For the past three and a half years, she has helped raise funds and awareness by being a board member and media representative.

“This aligns with my purposes and goals for helping people,” she says. “The more you learn, the more you need to help. The more you find out, the more you’re shocked. The funny thing is that then the tides turn, and the less you’re shocked. The more you’re told, you’re like, I totally believe it. I’m not surprised.”

Parents contact the organization constantly, worrying about what they may have unknowingly exposed their children to. “You can’t worry about what you may have already exposed your kids to,” Preston says. “You have to think: ‘Now I’m armed; I have knowledge; knowledge is power; and I’m going to create change. I’m going to protect my kids as well as protect other kids.’ The goal is to inform and protect.”

Preston notes that CHEC is a grassroots organization that can only survive through the help of parents. “Young parents, or older parents, just anybody who cares about children. And everybody does,” she says. “Children are our future – literally. It’s such a cliché but it’s so true.”



Click here for Preston's recommended reading.

A good starting point to learn more about the space in which your children live is CHEC’s HealtheHouse, an interactive resource for information on environmental health risks children face in the home. Preston also stars in a video, with fellow CHEC board member Olivia Newton-John, titled Not Under My Roof: Protecting Your Baby From Toxins at Home. In the video, Preston and Newton-John discuss what you need to know about the hidden toxins in your home. “They really wanted to do it where it wasn’t going to scare people, but I also wanted to make sure that people realized that this isn’t something that’s just a little issue,” Preston says. “There are really important things you need to do to safeguard your kids. There are things to do to protect your kids and their well-being so they don’t get sick.”

I think this was a kind of old...but some info.

also:
http://www.hollywoodinterrupted.com/archives/a_plea_from_hollywood_john_travolta_open_your_heart.phtml

Thank goodness for the DIS or I would never be in the "know" on celeb gossip!! I've learned quite a few new things today!
 
Right, I knew about the Kawasaki Syndrome diagnosis of years ago. But wondering if the autistic "diagnosis" is a recent one. Just wondering if the Scientologists lack of wanting to admit that their children have something "less than perfect" caused such a late discovery at age 14.

Hope he gets the help he needs.
 
SplshMtn99 said:
Right, I knew about the Kawasaki Syndrome diagnosis of years ago. But wondering if the autistic "diagnosis" is a recent one.

It is just hollywood insider speculation. I don't think there has been any official diagnosis, just persistant rumors. Like the Tom Cruise is gay rumors, longstanding and persistant from varied sources.
 
I don't know if there's a baby or not but if you look at pictures of Katie before she got "tangled up" with wacko Tom and compare them to now...she just looks so very, very sad :sad2:
She'll snap back to her senses when Tom gets called back to his spaceship
 
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