offsiters buses still going to OKW and SSR

[Sammie]

There is nothing on the tickets about transportation. Basically a ticket provides you with admission to the parks. You will be provided transportation to the park from the parking lot but resort to park transportation is a perk of guests who have paid for a room, not paid for a ticket.

Also guests shopping at DD are not provided transportation to anywhere, hence the problem.

 

[bobbiwoz]

If you are staying off site and you have a park hopper I would assume that you could use the transportation system. That is why boat drivers for instance tell people who have parked at DHS when the last boat going back at night, so they could pick up their car.

Bobbi

 

[Sammie]

Where is the thread that had a photo of the new sign at DD, asking riders to take the PO bus???

 

[jamstew]

From the WDW site FAQ:

"Q: What is the best way to get around within Walt Disney World® Resort?

A: There are many modes of transportation within Walt Disney World® Resort, including Bus, Boat and Monorail.

A rundown of transportation options within the Resort is as follows:


By Bus:
Most areas of Walt Disney World® Resort are accessible by bus from other areas within the Resort, including Theme Parks*, Water Parks, the Disney Resorts and the Downtown Disney® area. Buses travel on routes throughout the Resort and do not provide direct service between all destinations.
*Magic Kingdom® Park is not accessible by bus from Disney's Contemporary Resort, Disney's Grand Floridian Resort & Spa and Disney's Polynesian Resort. These Resorts provide monorail transportation to the Park.

By Boat:
Magic Kingdom® Park is accessible by water launch from Disney's Contemporary Resort, Disney's Grand Floridian Resort & Spa, Disney's Polynesian Resort, Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort & Campground and Disney's Wilderness Lodge. The Disney ferryboats connect Magic Kingdom Park to the Transportation and Ticket Center (adjacent to Magic Kingdom parking).

Epcot® and Disney's Hollywood Studios™ are accessible by boat from Disney's BoardWalk Inn and Villas Resort, Disney's Yacht Club and Disney's Beach Club Resorts and Walt Disney World Swan and Walt Disney World Dolphin Hotels.

Downtown Disney® is accessible by ferryboat from Disney's Port Orleans Resort, Disney's Old Key West Resort and Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort.

By Monorail:
Disney's monorail runs between Magic Kingdom Park, Disney's Contemporary Resort, Disney's Grand Floridian Resort & Spa, Disney's Polynesian Resort and the Transportation and Ticket Center (adjacent to the Magic Kingdom parking lot). A connecting monorail takes Guests from the Transportation and Ticket Center to Epcot. "

Nowhere does it say that you have to be staying onsite to utilize the transportation, and there wasn't anything about it in the Ticket FAQ one way or the other.

I know when we've stayed offsite in the past, we used the monorail and boats, but I'm not sure about the buses.

 

[castleri]

Where is the thread that had a photo of the new sign at DD, asking riders to take the PO bus???

Here is the picture - I don't know where the thread went

 

[DebbieB]

I notice the sign says 7:00am to 12 noon. What about the rest of the day? Are there direct busses?

 

[dolphingirl47]

When I ordered my tickets for our September vacation, I received a booklet that clearly stated that transportation is included in the price of the ticket. I also have never been asked for my KTTW card on any of the transportation. The only question that I was asked multiple times by drivers is if I was aware that this bus was going to OKW. I found that very odd at first, but there was not a day going by when people asked if this bus was going to PO and on one occassion people actually got as far as HH before they realised something was wrong.

dolphingirl47

 

[Brian Noble]

It is my understanding that anyone with legitimate business at some other location is allowed to use Disney transportation to get there. In general, the same is true for self-parking. If you are visiting a Resort or DTD to shop, dine, or even just look around, you are allowed to park there for that purpose. At the resorts, you are typically given a time limit.

There is one major exception: you are not allowed to park at DTD or Resort parking lots and subsequently visit the theme parks without moving your car. Pretty much everything else is fair game---on site or off, ticket or no. And, even this restriction is de facto ignored if you valet rather than self-park.

 

[Brian Noble]

What about the rest of the day? Are there direct busses?

No, but the rest of the day (after noon) doesn't see a bunch of freeloaders trying to park at DTD and get to the theme parks to save themselves $12.

One way to interpret this sign: Disney has given up, and is implicitly allowing people to park at DTD to visit the parks. Nothing in DTD opens until 9AM, if I recall correctly, so there should be no reason to even run a bus over there at 7AM.

Remember: Disney is extremely averse to guest complaint---even when the guest is clearly in the wrong. My suspicion is that rather than deal with angry guests (who are just trying to cheat the system anyway), they just schedule extra buses from DTD to POFQ and from POFQ to the parks.

I don't agree with this approach, but it's Disney's call, not mine.

 

[boettj]

What do the onsite non-Disney hotels do for transportation to the parks? I don't think they have their own buses. My guess is that they use the DTD bus network. This could be why Disney has buses already running earlier than needed.

 

[Chuck S]

What do the onsite non-Disney hotels do for transportation to the parks? I don't think they have their own buses. My guess is that they use the DTD bus network. This could be why Disney has buses already running earlier than needed.

I'm pretty sure the onsite non-Disney hotels have a bus network, shared between them. You don't see them because they don't use the Disney bus areas at the parks, they use the same drop off areas as off-site buses, and they don't run nearly as frequently as Disney. At least there used to be a teal colored bus that said Downtown Disney Hotels

If this is still true, then the DtD hotels need to spend the $ to improve their network.

 

[boettj]

I'm pretty sure the onsite non-Disney hotels have a bus network, shared between them. You don't see them because they don't use the Disney bus areas at the parks, they use the same drop off areas as off-site buses, and they don't run nearly as frequently as Disney. At least there used to be a teal colored bus that said Downtown Disney Hotels

If this is still true, then the DtD hotels need to spend the $ to improve their network.

Ok, then Disney needs to stop putting buses at DTD and add those buses into the resort network to avoid the issues we are seeing. More buses in the resort system would me less of an issue on that side. Forget the offsiters. They are not my issue.

 

[Chuck S]

But they still need DtD buses to service the onsite guests, and DtD is the designated bus connection to hop from Disney resort to Disney resort (though most of us know more convenient routes.) I still think simply charging for parking at DtD unless you are an AP holder or onsite guest would take care of most of the problem. They charge at DtD in California.

 

[spiceycat]

the onsite DTD bus system works really fine - these people were not from their buses.

they were from offsite condo's.

 

[boettj]

the onsite DTD bus system works really fine - these people were not from their buses.

they were from offsite condo's.

A comment was made that Disney is running buses from DTD at 7am in the morning. When DTD does not open until 9am. The buses that run from 7am until 9am should be diverted to the resorts instead. If all that the buses are serving are offsiters, then let them pay the fee that they are suppose to pay. Plain and simple.

 

[spiceycat]

A comment was made that Disney is running buses from DTD at 7am in the morning. When DTD does not open until 9am. The buses that run from 7am until 9am should be diverted to the resorts instead. If all that the buses are serving are offsiters, then let them pay the fee that they are suppose to pay. Plain and simple.

the DTD buses for the DTD hotels start at 8am - so this is NOT for them.

they go every 30 minutes.

now it might be for Hilton - their guests have EMH - maybe the DTD hotel buses don't start early enough?

 

[toocherie]

glad to see that other Dis-ers are encouraging the use of SSR busses

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1970272

 

[Maistre Gracey]

glad to see that other Dis-ers are encouraging the use of SSR busses

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1970272

The worst part is when I'm driving around DtD swearing my butt off because I can't get a parking spot..

MG

 

[Chuck S]

The worst part is when I'm driving around DtD swearing my butt off because I can't get a parking spot..

MG

Amen! That's why I'm happy OKW is connected to DtD by boat.

 

[Liljam]

glad to see that other Dis-ers are encouraging the use of SSR busses

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1970272

Ugh, I have seen people on here telling others to use the SSR buses to go to DTD to connect to this or that so many times I could probably pay my annual dues if I had a quarter for each time ! I don't have issue with anyone using the buses if they have legit business anywhere, but it does really bother me when people use DTD for FREE parking and then walk over to SSR, hop on one of the park buses that is most likely going to be packed full enough, go to the park, have their fun and be $12 richer than the honest person who chose to buy the same hopper pass, park their car in the MK lot, use the monorail the same day to visit EPCOT, then use the AKV bus to eat at Boma before heading back to MK and going to their off site condo - which was all done in an honest and legitimate manner since that person was using the transportation for the proper purposes. At least that's how I understand the system to work. Maybe I'm wrong though. To solve the problem, DTD parking should just be a flat rate unless a guest is staying on site or an annual pass holder. Or resort buses should require KTTW for entry (although that causes issues for off siters with resort ressies but I suppose one could carry a ressie print out with date and time too, huh?!)