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In addition to the above, I'd add that it also depends on the conditions you've trained in and are competing in. On my long runs recently, I've been going through 150-170 oz of fluids (water and sports drink). I anticipate that when I get to my race and the conditions are much less hot and humid than I've conditioned my body for, I'll go through maybe 25-30% of that.

We're all an experiment of one, as Charles likes to say, so you need to get out and see what works and what doesn't work for you now so you're comfortable with what you'll do on race day.

Exactly. I was doing a trail run today. Temps were high 60s, low 70s, but not very humid. By mile 9, I had gone through only 12 oz of water or so, and no fuel. This was according to plan, and at no point did I feel dehydrated during the run.

Now, I did end the run with no water left in the bottle, but that was because I did a face plant just after mile 9, and used the water to clean myself off. Once I was out of water, I headed back to the start - it's better to cut the run short and do it later than to run the remaining 5-6 miles without water in those conditions.
 
Yep! I think "the most I have done is a half marathon and I have to run 2 of those at once!" But my goal is to finish and get that Mickey medal so I keep slogging through!

Once of our dogs was spayed last Friday and I was up all night with her. Then got up at 6 a.m. on Saturday to run a half marathon. ZZZZZZ. But I made it through and actually felt like I could have done another one! (okay, well maybe just a few more miles, but it gave me confidence that I can finish the full!).

That's how I feel! I did 10 miles and that's the longest I've done in about 6 weeks. I'm waaaay behind in training. Last week should have been 17 and I just didn't have it in me.
 
I would disagree with this. While it is important not to overhydrate, it is very uncommon for someone to do it. Taking a cup at every aid station is not even close to overhydrating--for anyone. Slower runners spend more time on their feet, and likely lose more sweat between aid stations that faster runners. I would guess they need more, not less fluids.

For me, I take in a cup at every station, sometimes skipping one station and sometimes grabbing two cups at a single station depending on the conditions.

It is good to test out how much fluid you use and try to replenish accordingly. I'm guessing the only people who would overhydrate are ones who don't sweat much and take 2-3 cups per aid station (or more likely they carry their own fluids and also use aid stations--another reason not to carry).

I think you're generally right BUT I overhydrated in January during my 1st marathon. I was quite hyponatremic (low body salt = water intoxication) and confused when I finished. It was a bit scary. The saving grace is that I took Endurolytes during the race which lessened the water intoxication (and I mostly drank PowerAde instead of water) and my husband and I are both doctors and figured out what had happened before I needed serious medical help. Water intoxication can be serious or even fatal and I try to share my experience so others can avoid it! :thumbsup2
I got very overheated during the race and, in my inexperience, misinterpreted the heat exhaustion as dehydration. I drank 2-3 cups of PowerAde at each water station starting around mile 18. I've subsequently learned to dump water on my head if it gets warm and only take one cup of PowerAde at each station.
Given how many novice runners are at the Disney events (I include myself in that!), I think it would be easy for others to make the same mistake. I do seem to have relatively high fluid/salt requirements so I do drink one cup at each station but I stick to electrolyte containing fluid and take my salt tablets.

Amanda
 
I think the most important thing is not to OVER hydrate. If you’re stopping at every water station, that’s too much, especially for a slower runner.

My last half, I got two cups at every water station, and still felt very dehydrated at the end. 80+ degrees and 80% humidity will do that to you. Your body is pretty good about getting rid of excess water, but it can't pull water out of the air, so I always tell people that, when in doubt, drink up!
 

I think you're generally right BUT I overhydrated in January during my 1st marathon. I was quite hyponatremic (low body salt = water intoxication) and confused when I finished. It was a bit scary. The saving grace is that I took Endurolytes during the race which lessened the water intoxication (and I mostly drank PowerAde instead of water) and my husband and I are both doctors and figured out what had happened before I needed serious medical help. Water intoxication can be serious or even fatal and I try to share my experience so others can avoid it! :thumbsup2
I got very overheated during the race and, in my inexperience, misinterpreted the heat exhaustion as dehydration. I drank 2-3 cups of PowerAde at each water station starting around mile 18. I've subsequently learned to dump water on my head if it gets warm and only take one cup of PowerAde at each station.
Given how many novice runners are at the Disney events (I include myself in that!), I think it would be easy for others to make the same mistake. I do seem to have relatively high fluid/salt requirements so I do drink one cup at each station but I stick to electrolyte containing fluid and take my salt tablets.

Amanda

I read an interesting book about this called "Waterlogged: The Serious Problem of Overhydration in Endurance Sports" by Dr. Tim Noakes. As a doctor you would understand this a lot batter than I. But the basic message of the book is just what you said - people mistake overheating and heat exhaustion with dehydration and drink too much. The other big message is that dehydration does not really contribute to an increased body temperature as was once believed. You should just drink to thirst and it is actually okay to end a run/race slightly dehydrated. You will recover in the hours after the activity as you take in more fluids.
 
I think you're generally right BUT I overhydrated in January during my 1st marathon. I was quite hyponatremic (low body salt = water intoxication) and confused when I finished. It was a bit scary. The saving grace is that I took Endurolytes during the race which lessened the water intoxication (and I mostly drank PowerAde instead of water) and my husband and I are both doctors and figured out what had happened before I needed serious medical help. Water intoxication can be serious or even fatal and I try to share my experience so others can avoid it! :thumbsup2
I got very overheated during the race and, in my inexperience, misinterpreted the heat exhaustion as dehydration. I drank 2-3 cups of PowerAde at each water station starting around mile 18. I've subsequently learned to dump water on my head if it gets warm and only take one cup of PowerAde at each station.
Given how many novice runners are at the Disney events (I include myself in that!), I think it would be easy for others to make the same mistake. I do seem to have relatively high fluid/salt requirements so I do drink one cup at each station but I stick to electrolyte containing fluid and take my salt tablets.

Amanda

Amanda, I am the same way. I need to keep track of the electrolytes or I get way underground drinking to my thirst when running. I sweat a lot when running (but not much at all in everyday life) and my sweat is super salty. I need the salt tablets to keep up. I think that it is safer to be a little dehydrated than hyponatremic.

My last hot, humid race was the ToT race. I dropped my salt pills by accident at the one hour mark after taking one, and even with Powerade at every station, I finished the race hyponatremic. I was out for 2.5 hours and drenched in sweat. When I finished I was sloshy in my belly, weird leg cramps, and my hands were a bit swollen (fluid going into the third space to rectify plasma hyponatremia for those who wonder how this is a symptom) - all signs for me. I also had a bit of heat exhaustion going on too - foggy brain, headache, and nausea. I corrected them both and woke up feeling great.

Now I stash salt pills in more than one place for races, dump water on my head to keep cool, and really pay attention to the small signs that I am getting out of balance and correct as I go. I juggle salt pills and fuel, with water and electrolyte drink. Kinda satisfying to fix myself as I run and give myself the ability to carry on.

Also, not directed at you Amanda, you can be dehydrated and still be drinking if you are hyponatremic. That water will stay in your belly, or go to your intestines or other third space areas, and not be processed by your kidneys if your blood chemistry is out of whack. Your body will prioritize electrolyte balance over hydration, to a certain point (and then your body will prioritize blood volume over blood chemistry when you get dangerously dehyrated). It isn't as easy as just drinking at every station for everyone. If it were, no one would collapse or need med help - and in these weather-challenging races it seems that many people fall ill in ways that could otherwise be prevented. Anyway, this is my understanding of the subject, YMMV.

My solution: drink often but not a lot at any one point, and take electrolyte tablets. I may still get out of whack, but not nearly as much as I would otherwise, and likely well within a buffer of my body's ability to self-regulate.
The symptoms of hyponatremia are much more subtle for me than dehydration (primarily very thirsty!) so I just make a schedule for that day's run depending on the weather and distance for fluid, fuel and electrolytes and take stuff on schedule. It has worked really well for training in very hot and humid summer weather. As a slow runner out for a long time on long runs I feel that I have to be especially careful. A summer 20k run means a 3 hour period of sweating profusely for me.
 
Oh, and the way to avoid overheating is to slow down your pace which your body kinda forces you to do (ever noticed how you can't run as fast in the heat and humidity?)
 
Has anyone heard anything from Disney? I thought I read that about 3 months out, we would receive emails from them. Not sure what about but I haven't heard anything and was just wondering.

Thanks
Michele
 
Has anyone heard anything from Disney? I thought I read that about 3 months out, we would receive emails from them. Not sure what about but I haven't heard anything and was just wondering.

Thanks
Michele

runDisney sort of works one race at a time when possible. After Wine & Dine weekend you’ll start seeing much more about January.
 
Wanted to share this quote from a cross country shirt

"To show good sportsmanship, please refrain from making little racecar noises as you pass your fellow opponents"

:rolleyes1

I laughed out loud when I saw it yesterday on my training run. It did make me think about making sure I stay disciplined about pace so I can run with negative splits for the full. When I am passing people in the later miles of races it really "revs me up" (to stay with the race car theme)
 
Oops! Posted this in the wrong thread...sorry...guess I should just go to bed...atleast with that nice thought now in my head! Sweet dreams....
 
I just signed up for another half. The Atlantic City Apri Fool's Half on April 7th. Maybe I should just go for Half Fanatic since I'll have the Princess in February and probably another 2 in the spring.
 
ColleenG said:
I just signed up for another half. The Atlantic City Apri Fool's Half on April 7th. Maybe I should just go for Half Fanatic since I'll have the Princess in February and probably another 2 in the spring.

Have you done this one before? Does it start and end near the boardwalk? I could probably talk DH into taking me if he could gamble while I walk : )
Does anyone know times from this event would be to early to count towards the 2014 princess?
 
I just signed up for another half. The Atlantic City Apri Fool's Half on April 7th. Maybe I should just go for Half Fanatic since I'll have the Princess in February and probably another 2 in the spring.

YAY We could be HF sisters! I am currently the first level but after my Spring races I will be level 2, by the skin of my teeth! I am running 8 Halfs in exactly 365 days, lol
 
Have you done this one before? Does it start and end near the boardwalk? I could probably talk DH into taking me if he could gamble while I walk : )
Does anyone know times from this event would be to early to count towards the 2014 princess?

It starts and ends........at Bally's!
DH could so gamble while you walk!
Don't know about the Princess though, sorry!
 
ColleenG said:
I just signed up for another half. The Atlantic City Apri Fool's Half on April 7th. Maybe I should just go for Half Fanatic since I'll have the Princess in February and probably another 2 in the spring.

Go for it! Join our crazy group!
 
kimmiepcft said:
YAY We could be HF sisters! I am currently the first level but after my Spring races I will be level 2, by the skin of my teeth! I am running 8 Halfs in exactly 365 days, lol

Awesome! I will reach two Moons next Saturday at the Indy Monumental Half.
 
I just signed up for another half. The Atlantic City Apri Fool's Half on April 7th. Maybe I should just go for Half Fanatic since I'll have the Princess in February and probably another 2 in the spring.

I'm in for that one too, I saw John's Facebook post about it and $35 for a half was too good a deal to pass up... and I'll pretend like I'll make that money back and then some in the casinos. :rolleyes2
 
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