Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread-Part 2

[Cruz91]

It's mostly a moot point now, but how do folkls handle taper of cross training activities before the race? I usually do at least 1 or 2 fairly aggressive stationary bike rides for my cross activity, usually 30-50 minutes each. I have about 3 more of those rides left before the race - should I cut the intensity?

Knock on wood, I've had no real injury issues during training. Wondering if I shouldn't risk any! ;-)

 

[Cruz91]

...does anyone use salt tablets during the race? I didn't do any during training, so I don't plan on doing it during the race - just curious what others' experiences are.

 

[Princess Steph]

We have a team with "Run for our Sons". We will be staying at the Poly. We will be in D corral. I was hoping that those not running the 1/2 and the full will be able to watch as we run by GF and then take the monorail to the finish. I know this is doable for the full, what about the 1/2? Also, does your spreadsheet have expected times near GF/Poly? I am concerned about the slow start. I don't want the kiddos waiting around too long, especially those in wheelchairs. Is there anywhere else along the route that is most easily accessible and that they can get to the finish easy? we will have a handicap van, but I know traffic is difficult. Some of them are fine on Disney transportation. Any good ideas about where the group can see us?

 

[cewait]

It's mostly a moot point now, but how do folkls handle taper of cross training activities before the race? I usually do at least 1 or 2 fairly aggressive stationary bike rides for my cross activity, usually 30-50 minutes each. I have about 3 more of those rides left before the race - should I cut the intensity?

Knock on wood, I've had no real injury issues during training. Wondering if I shouldn't risk any! ;-)

If these are not new to your program, then continue. Though, I would consider backing off next week's intensity by just a little.

...does anyone use salt tablets during the race? I didn't do any during training, so I don't plan on doing it during the race - just curious what others' experiences are.

I use a buffered caplet from Hammer Nutrition. But understand that my balck shorts are usually crusted with white salts after drying. I have a higher than normal electrolytic component to my sweat ---- and a higher sweat rate than many. While I am do nothing new proponent on race day, I would not be afraid of taking on Endurolytes on race day - as long as one follows direction and hydrates well. It is mostly a buffer with a little added electrolyte.

I would not take pure salt. That can and may upset the GI system with little or no warning as the concentrated salts try to dissolve in the stomach.

We have a team with "Run for our Sons". We will be staying at the Poly. We will be in D corral. I was hoping that those not running the 1/2 and the full will be able to watch as we run by GF and then take the monorail to the finish. I know this is doable for the full, what about the 1/2? Also, does your spreadsheet have expected times near GF/Poly? I am concerned about the slow start. I don't want the kiddos waiting around too long, especially those in wheelchairs. Is there anywhere else along the route that is most easily accessible and that they can get to the finish easy? we will have a handicap van, but I know traffic is difficult. Some of them are fine on Disney transportation. Any good ideas about where the group can see us?

I know Run for Our Sons and think it a great team....

I think they could do both, see you at the Poly and then at the finish. It really is dependent on the monorail and the wait times, but if they are in wheelies, they may not have as much issue with the monorail. If worried, have them watch from the TTC and see you there. It will give them a little advantage over the Poly as it gets them to the finish area quicker. Actually, it may be better at the TTC as they are not separated by a traffic lane on the course. Regardless, they should plan on not taking the monorail to TTC - it's only a quarter mile jaunt.

PM your email address and I will forward the workbook. It will give a range for approaching both the TTC and Poly as well as expected finish time....

 

[buckeyecinderella]

Another one here who loves Sparkle Skirts.

Got some excellent cross training in today - shoveling the snow and under layer of ice in driveway. Shovel shovel shovel, chop chop chop!

Happy New Year everyone!

 

[Rose&Mike]

Not meaning to throw stones....

I guess I am a little less concerned about where I start and would not worry about my spot in the corral as long as I am in the proper corral. I just make sure folks can see I am about to whoa up, that is all that is required. I would NOT leave the pavement and would leave the person width space to the side. Why risk your ankle? Again, I would move to the side but not necessarily to the right. I would head to the side easiest to reach or try to keep to the outer radius of any upcoming corner. If I am in the proper corral, then while I get passed on the walk, I pass others on the run.

I did not mention earlier that one should also swivel their head around, also. That way you know you do not have a tail gated on your heals.

I understand what you are saying, but my experience has been that in the b & c corral that it is hard to take the breaks during the first mile because it is so crowded if you are up near the front. I don't care about people passing me, I just don't want to get run over when it is really crowded. Cause you're right, I passed them during my running intervals. I agree that moving off the road really sets you up for twisting an ankle, which is why we will be hanging towards the back of the corral so that we are easily able to take the intervals and don't feel as if we are making it more difficult for other runners or ourselves during the first mile. The reality was during W&D it was so crowded during the first mile there were folks on our heals and there was not much we could do about it other than keep running or raise a hand and hope we didn't get plowed. For sanity sake, it is easier to just hang back imho.

 

[Weluvdisny]

I was just on e-bay and a guy is selling his wife's marathon bib for $150.00 for next week. I guess she is injured and can't compete but she will register and then you get to be her on race day.

Just seems shady to me and not right at all.

 

[goofeygirl]

Does anyone know where on rundisney.com you find your bib number and corral? I went to the website...runner info...corral placement and all I saw where numbers matched to the corrals...but no names.
Where would I find my name and number and corral placement?

Thanks!


And as for selling on ebay...who knows...Its a huge gamble. That person who is selling would still have to personally pup their bib I would guess...and that purchaser would have to go with them...and then do the selling after all is done...but to pay beforehand?

 

[cewait]

Does anyone know where on rundisney.com you find your bib number and corral? I went to the website...runner info...corral placement and all I saw where numbers matched to the corrals...but no names.
Where would I find my name and number and corral placement?

Thanks!


And as for selling on ebay...who knows...Its a huge gamble. That person who is selling would still have to personally pup their bib I would guess...and that purchaser would have to go with them...and then do the selling after all is done...but to pay beforehand?

Your bib number is located on the waiver. Waivers are just below the corral assignment links. Scroll maybe a half to full page.

 

[cewait]

I understand what you are saying, but my experience has been that in the b & c corral that it is hard to take the breaks during the first mile because it is so crowded if you are up near the front. I don't care about people passing me, I just don't want to get run over when it is really crowded. Cause you're right, I passed them during my running intervals. I agree that moving off the road really sets you up for twisting an ankle, which is why we will be hanging towards the back of the corral so that we are easily able to take the intervals and don't feel as if we are making it more difficult for other runners or ourselves during the first mile. The reality was during W&D it was so crowded during the first mile there were folks on our heals and there was not much we could do about it other than keep running or raise a hand and hope we didn't get plowed. For sanity sake, it is easier to just hang back imho.

The thing that really caught my eye was move right comment. I am not sure with pushing all to one side came from (it is a recent thing) but it is really just to either side, preferably to the outer radius if coming into a bend. ... AND, I fully understand the feeling like one may have an interference fit (aka collision) in the front of a wave. I guess I have run enough races that I don't let that bother me, plus I know there are several folks in the A and B waves who do run/walk. Either thought process works.

Actually, I am more concerned about the person(s) who through some means should legitimately be in one of the last 2-3 waves but mysteriously starts in A/B. Somehow there is always 3-5 folks who will be passed early, walking 3 wide at a pace that I am not sure even meets 16 mm. I would love to know their system. I have seen several race morning techniques for corral hopping... just seems like I am starting to recognize a couple of folks.

 

[cewait]

I was just on e-bay and a guy is selling his wife's marathon bib for $150.00 for next week. I guess she is injured and can't compete but she will register and then you get to be her on race day.

Just seems shady to me and not right at all.

Until I re-re-read your last line, I was thinking you were trying to float an ad.

I know several bibs will pass through the Bay of E as well as a list put together by Craig. I would personally be a little goosey about striking a deal for a bib that is not from a local runner... one where I would meet and exchange the bib package for $$ on the spot. Hopefully the Mouse will start to allow wait lists and transfers in the future.

 

[sailors_wfe]

I have a question that's driving me crazy this week that I'm hoping some of you can help me with. I haven't trained for this half marathon like I usually do just due to circumstances in our lives and I haven't done a long run more than 9 miles since the Princess half last Feb. My typical training schedule has me running a 5 mile run the week before a half but I'm torn between getting in a 10 mile run or a rest week with a 5 mile run. I haven't even been running my weekly runs as much or as long as I would like and don't have nearly the base that I'm usually comfortable with. I don't want to risk injury/wearing myself down the week before the race but I don't want to not have a solid build-up before it either. I did the 9 miles last weekend and recovered after a day... it was tough but not killer, I'm just at a loss for this race. This will be my 3rd half marathon, originally was hoping to get a PR on this race (under 3 hours), now I'm just hoping to finish. What would you do if you didn't have the mileage base that you'd like going into a race?

 

[cewait]

I have a question that's driving me crazy this week that I'm hoping some of you can help me with. I haven't trained for this half marathon like I usually do just due to circumstances in our lives and I haven't done a long run more than 9 miles since the Princess half last Feb. My typical training schedule has me running a 5 mile run the week before a half but I'm torn between getting in a 10 mile run or a rest week with a 5 mile run. I haven't even been running my weekly runs as much or as long as I would like and don't have nearly the base that I'm usually comfortable with. I don't want to risk injury/wearing myself down the week before the race but I don't want to not have a solid build-up before it either. I did the 9 miles last weekend and recovered after a day... it was tough but not killer, I'm just at a loss for this race. This will be my 3rd half marathon, originally was hoping to get a PR on this race (under 3 hours), now I'm just hoping to finish. What would you do if you didn't have the mileage base that you'd like going into a race?

WIthout knowing more than you put in the post it is really hard to recommend a longer run here. The great news is that if you finished a 9 mile run last weekend with little issue, then you will more than likely run fairly well in the race. Given the last long run and the timing to the race, I would suggest a 5-6 mile run this comping weekend and call the training good; errrr, over.

Do not worry about trying to to cram any more in as you would be more likely to create a late injury that will not heal well. At least this way you are coming into the race on fairly fresh legs and with a mental game knowing you will make the end. Do take your time and do not push your pace in the race. It is all about conserving blood sugar and making it to the end with a smile. This happens to more runners than you would figure.

See you at the race.

 

[goofeygirl]

Your bib number is located on the waiver. Waivers are just below the corral assignment links. Scroll maybe a half to full page.

Thanks! Seeing my bib number makes it so real now! I am in the G corral...I really thought I would be in H.

 

[John VN]

It's mostly a moot point now, but how do folkls handle taper of cross training activities before the race? I usually do at least 1 or 2 fairly aggressive stationary bike rides for my cross activity, usually 30-50 minutes each. I have about 3 more of those rides left before the race - should I cut the intensity?

Knock on wood, I've had no real injury issues during training. Wondering if I shouldn't risk any! ;-)

my bolding. taper is an individual choice depending on race goals....

This will be my 3rd Dopey in a row and I'm looking forward to having more fun than in the past, so with that in mind....

Yesterday I biked 62 miles. Today I went out for a 4.26 mile vigorous walk. Mile 1 warm-up at 10:39 then 9:43-9:30-9:01 and a speed-walking .26 mile sprint at a 8:24mpm pace. Tomorrow 2,000 yards easy swimming. Thursday another 60+ mile bike ride, Friday swimming with some quick laps, Saturday 60 to 80 miles on bike and Sunday a slow, easy walk 6 to 8 miles. Nothing on Monday, swim Tuesday and easy walk Wed. Drive to FW Thursday, EXPO and parks then start Marathon Weekend with the 5K on Friday. Might start in corral D on Saturday or with Balloon Ladies and Sunday for sure with Balloon Ladies. Will be stopping at mile 15 for a M&M McFlurry then rejoining the race.

I race for fun and to complete. If I feel real good at the start, I might try for a PR, but my main goal for 2013 is to complete IMFL at 63 years, 3 months and 23 days.

 

[aliron]

Just just found this side of the DIS boards as I normally lurk on the cruise section. I am making the Disney Marathon my first full. I have run 5 halfs to date and wondering about when to take a gu shot during the race.

In the halfs, I have had some issues and finally got it down so I feel good at the end of the race and do not fell drained. But this has been trial and error. Something I do not have with the full.

I would like to create a pace band to help me remember when to take a gu. Cliff Bar site has a great tool to create the band but I am not sure what time to put in.

Typically can complete the half in 2:40-2:55 and hope that I could complete the full in 6:00.

Since this will be my first full, I do not know what to put or shoot for.

Thanks for any and all guidance.

 

[Reep]

Just just found this side of the DIS boards as I normally lurk on the cruise section. I am making the Disney Marathon my first full. I have run 5 halfs to date and wondering about when to take a gu shot during the race.

In the halfs, I have had some issues and finally got it down so I feel good at the end of the race and do not fell drained. But this has been trial and error. Something I do not have with the full.

I would like to create a pace band to help me remember when to take a gu. Cliff Bar site has a great tool to create the band but I am not sure what time to put in.

Typically can complete the half in 2:40-2:55 and hope that I could complete the full in 6:00.

Since this will be my first full, I do not know what to put or shoot for.

Thanks for any and all guidance.

When do you take them in the half? For me, I used to take shots at about 5 and 9. If that was the case for you then just keep that same ratio. If you do two shots for a half, then maybe 5 for a full spread out at the same timing.

My stomach got upset from that so now I take one Shot Blok (1/3 gel) every two miles. Spreads the carbs more evenly and I don't get as many GI issues.

 

[ColleenG]

I too am in love with Sparkle Skirts! I got the minnie one and wore it for the first time today on a 10 mile run. The pockets are AWESOME!!! I had 2 Gus in each on the shorts and my chapstick, in the waist pocket I had my cell phone. Never felt any of my stuff at all! So much so that I forgot my phone was in the pocket and almost freaked when I couldn't find it in my bag after my run. The shorts are the perftect length and they don't move. The only problem I had today with chaffing was from my sports bra that is old. I guess it's time to retire that one! If you are on the fence, go for it! You won't regret it.

My Garmin has been weird too with the battery lasting. I have the Forerunner 205. Last time I used it I did a 5 mile run, didn't charge it, went out to do a long run and it was dead before I hit a mile. I usually always charge it in the wall charger. I'll have to try the reset thing. If it doesn't last for the marathon I'm going to be really bummed.

 

[Reep]

Not meaning to throw stones....

I guess I am a little less concerned about where I start and would not worry about my spot in the corral as long as I am in the proper corral. I just make sure folks can see I am about to whoa up, that is all that is required. I would NOT leave the pavement and would leave the person width space to the side. Why risk your ankle? Again, I would move to the side but not necessarily to the right. I would head to the side easiest to reach or try to keep to the outer radius of any upcoming corner. If I am in the proper corral, then while I get passed on the walk, I pass others on the run.

I did not mention earlier that one should also swivel their head around, also. That way you know you do not have a tail gated on your heals.

I'll agree with others that if you are in the front three corrals, don't start in the front if you take walk breaks. The first corral (much to my dismay) starts 2:40 and 3:40 marathoners in the same location. If you are in the mid to upper threes, then head to the back. My last Disney half I had a guy start in front of me (at the very front line of the corral) who had never run a half before. When the horn sounded he took off at his 8:00 pace, while everyone else pulled off at 6:00. Find out what the range of your corral is and put yourself in the proper position. It makes life better for everyone.

 

[RunRookie]

Just just found this side of the DIS boards as I normally lurk on the cruise section. I am making the Disney Marathon my first full. I have run 5 halfs to date and wondering about when to take a gu shot during the race.

In the halfs, I have had some issues and finally got it down so I feel good at the end of the race and do not fell drained. But this has been trial and error. Something I do not have with the full.

I would like to create a pace band to help me remember when to take a gu. Cliff Bar site has a great tool to create the band but I am not sure what time to put in.

Typically can complete the half in 2:40-2:55 and hope that I could complete the full in 6:00.

Since this will be my first full, I do not know what to put or shoot for.

Thanks for any and all guidance.

I think it is runner-specific for what works the best... For me, I take GU or Bloks every 45-50 minutes rather than by specific mile markers. So based upon my pacing strategy, I line that up with the water stations so I know when to take them (I like to take them with water). I try to switch off between water and sports drinks as I pass the water stations.