Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread-Part 2

[cewait]

That would be great! I assume this would be a good way for my family to get over there and not worry about being at the buses so early. Thanks!!

The buses stop sometime after 4 AM and then resume around 7 AM. The Final Instructions will have a more exact time for this year with the new course configurations.

Note that on occasion the buses will resume quicker than the advertised time. Also, for the half, the path back into Epcot Parking jams for the buses and can create a real traffic snafu. From the Boardwalk and POR/OKW areas, my wife has had no issue getting to the finish line in a timer manner; even when I was running a 2 hour half.

 

[jmasgat]

So last night after 5k, my knees were sooooo achy. I still did my excersizes (well, the ones that are for runners knee and that I looked up for ITBS...I don't have my PT appt yet). And this morning I woke up and no pain! I think my knee twinged maybe 1 time when I bent down, but no pressure on the front of the knee, no side pain, nothing!!! My thighs however--ouch! They feel like they did back when I started running! I guess that's what weeks of doing nothing will do to you!

But now I'm being bad. I'm debating trying to run again. I know the doctor said that I won't hurt myself but that to heal I need to rest. But I'm panicing at how tired my thighs are and wondering just how I'm going to run a half just riding a bike for training! So do I "be bad" and try to run 30 mins on Tues? Or "be good" and just bike 30 mins on Thurs?

Oh, and another random question. I always get bad blisters on the outside of my big toe on my right foot. I get them even on 3 milers. It doesn't usually hurt (except for that ill-fated 16 miler). They usually go away in a day or so. I have both cheap athletic socks, thorlo socks, and balega socks, and get blisters with all of them. I did buy something similar to body glide when I got my new shoes to try to see if that helps with the blister but haven't done that yet. Anyways, yesterday, for the reindeer run, we wore these knee-high festive socks. The cheap, thin kind from Target and I knew I would get a blister but didn't care. BUUUUT. No blister! Not even a little spot! Any idea on why this is and any althetic socks I could try that might mimic it?

I would be good and not run....you have nothing to prove and your body will appreciate the rest. Plus, your quads may just be sore from the exercised you did for the knee/ITB.

As for blisters, maybe it's just a "space" issue in your shoe and the thinner sock is working better. There are thin/ultrathin socks on the market you can try. For me--I get blisters on my outside big toes and have ended up using silicone toe caps and also filing down the calluses periodically. Still haven't totally solved the blisters I get where the ball of my foot meets the side, but I have used body glide the last couple times out and gone with the thinner/tighter sock and this may be helping.

Momto2PrncChrmngs Last year I started the relay in B. I didn't get there particularly early, and I was alone. I just slowly, deliberately and not pushily worked my way up to the front of the corral. I don't recall my strategy (work up the side vs go up the middle), but I did it, so I'm sure you can try.

Did 12 miles yesterday and have the same few aches and pains from last week (hip flexor, quad twinge, foot), so I may need to baby things a bit this week. I would really like to get in a 20 miler, but not at the risk of overdoing it (which, I believe, happened before I did my first marathon at WDW in 2010.)

Maura

 

[irishtwins1112]

At this point in my training all I can say is: mile 20 better really freaking awesome or I'm going to be so angry I might punch Mickey in the face at the finish. Because if it's not...

LOL!

Funny story on a treadmill issue that came up once. I was at a club in the 05:00 timeframe and was the only member in a string of 5-10 machines. About 30 minutes into the run a well perfumed lady with a travel mug full of coffee came up and I could hear her fidgeting and mumbling about something. She then hopped up on the mill next to me and started walking. After about 3-5 minutes I was just about to hop off and move down the line to getaway from the perfume when she cursed and screamed then went off to grab the club manager. I could see she was animated about something then stormed off. I completed my run then asked him what the issue was. He said I was on her machine first of all then she was really upset that I was sweating on her and I was running. He laughed because he could not understand what she was talking about.... I was flinging sweat on a set of speed intervals and she was upset that she was catching some a little spray. What really upset her was when he suggested that she move a couple machines over.

For a a few weeks I would see her and she would u-turn and leave when she spotted me. All I wanted to do was finish my run.

Haha!

 

[irishtwins1112]

Prayers and pixie dust requested. Saturday night my babies and I got a nasty stomach virus. I think we are on the mend this morning but yesterday was terrible. My MIL had to come over and help DH with the babies because I was in the bed(or the bathroom) all day! I am so glad I got my 10 in on Saturday morning and didn't try to do it yesterday because it SO would not have happened.

 

[Sabeking]

Prayers and pixie dust requested. Saturday night my babies and I got a nasty stomach virus. I think we are on the mend this morning but yesterday was terrible. My MIL had to come over and help DH with the babies because I was in the bed(or the bathroom) all day! I am so glad I got my 10 in on Saturday morning and didn't try to do it yesterday because it SO would not have happened.

Sending prayers! That is miserable. I would take many other illnesses over an upset stomach! Especially when you and the kids have it; feeling your pain!

 

[Terapin]

Prayers and pixie dust requested. Saturday night my babies and I got a nasty stomach virus. I think we are on the mend this morning but yesterday was terrible. My MIL had to come over and help DH with the babies because I was in the bed(or the bathroom) all day! I am so glad I got my 10 in on Saturday morning and didn't try to do it yesterday because it SO would not have happened.

Oh that is the worst! Hope you and your kids are on the mend soon.

 

[Dr.Girlfriend]

Sadly, I've noticed some pains in my left knee while running, and wanted to try some of that tape I see people wearing - what is that called, exactly?

TIA!

 

[pinky4disney]

Sadly, I've noticed some pains in my left knee while running, and wanted to try some of that tape I see people wearing - what is that called, exactly?

TIA!

KT Tape. Good luck!

 

[John VN]

Bib is 24445, any other walkers in corral D?

Who else will be stopping for the 15 mile McFlurry break? Mine will be a M&M. The cooler weather will most definitely make it last longer than the one I had during ToT.

If you're stopping, just a reminder that the ramp back to the course is steep and very banked so stay right. Also, remember to signal left when merging back into the flow of runners.

 

[Reep]

Sadly, I've noticed some pains in my left knee while running, and wanted to try some of that tape I see people wearing - what is that called, exactly?

TIA!

Tape is good while running, but don't forget lots of ice in between and compression (and rest if needed). Otherwise you could make it worse.

If you haven't tried them, I now run all my long runs in CW-X 3/4 stabilyx tights. They have knee support built in which really makes a difference to me.

 

[kmg148]

Went to a foot doctor today and good news -- no serious damage! From his description, it looks like the beginnings of tendonitis, caused by my knee injury.

They made me a metatarsal band out of tape. Apparently my fifth metatarsal is rubbing against a tendon, and also hitting a nerve. He said to take it easy if I was able to this week with low mileage. I asked him if I felt better if I could do a longer run next weekend and he said that's a good idea to see if I get more pain. If I still have pain after that, I have an appointment to go back again.

He seems to think I'm still in good shape for the marathon and there wasn't a need to immobilize me. Hopefully he's right.

 

[LSUfan4444]

A quick tip on race day nutrition:

Through training, I always recommend trying new things. Yes, you should try and hone in on the things you like best, certainly try what will be provided on race day, but find possible solutions for a plan B.

My race day nutrition will look like this:

-two pieces of toast with PB&J and a large cup of coffee about 2 hours before race start
-30 minutes before race: 1 large banana and one 200mg caffeine pill
-one gel (about 100 calories & 25 carbs) every 45 minutes during the race, possibly an occasional sip of on course electrolyte drink
-If the temps are above 80, I will have one 215mg (sodium) Salt Stick tab an hour starting at hour 1

The keys to any successful nutrition plan is that it's simple, precise and 100% flexible and you have the ability to completely scratch it on race day and go with something else if it isn't working. Have a detailed plan on what you plan to eat and when you plan to eat it. Construct your nutrition plan by time, not mileage, but understand a few minutes early or late isn't that big of a deal. Have a specific route in mind, but a few alternatives in case you drop something or forget something or your stomach just isn't handling what it has handled all through training.

Don't make it too complicated BUT be specific and leave some flexibility. You need to have a plan B, and for alot of people your race will be determined not by what happens to you, but how you react to it. Leave yourself some options.

 

[kmg148]

Sadly, I've noticed some pains in my left knee while running, and wanted to try some of that tape I see people wearing - what is that called, exactly?

TIA!

One question I had about it when I was looking it up was if the different colors meant anything. They don't! Just different colors for fun!

They also have good videos on youtube of how to apply the tape for different areas.

 

[LSUfan4444]

The tape is only as good as the application. Meaning, if it isn't applied correctly, it's useless for anything other than appearance and placebo.

I advise getting in touch with some location PT offices and asking them if any of them apply KT tape and see what they charge without a prescription or insurance coverage (quite frequently, they are willing to work with you). it might be worth it to make an appointment now and go for a long run, and if you find it works, go back for reapplication before departing for WDW

 

[buckeyecinderella]

Another corral D here. Seems like a popular corral!

 

[Cruz91]

...but I can't find it. I registered through MarathonTours and haven't gotten confirmation packet yet. Any way I can find my corral and bib information?

Also - @buckeyecinderella, O-H

<I'm a buckeye too, ran 22 on Friday on one of the few sunny days we've had in Columbus lately!>

 

[cewait]

The tape is only as good as the application. Meaning, if it isn't applied correctly, it's useless for anything other than appearance and placebo.

I advise getting in touch with some location PT offices and asking them if any of them apply KT tape and see what they charge without a prescription or insurance coverage (quite frequently, they are willing to work with you). it might be worth it to make an appointment now and go for a long run, and if you find it works, go back for reapplication before departing for WDW

+1

Definitely agree that being off on some applications as much as the width of the tape or goofing up the tape tension will do nothing for the issue being addressed.

One will note that KT has multiple video versions of the same application; essentially pointing to the fact that the initial video may have led to incorrect application.

KT will be at the expo and they will apply tape there. Tape can last for 3-7 days, depending on the area of application. Guys' I would suggest wacking back hair in the area if you are thinking of using.

 

[cewait]

...but I can't find it. I registered through MarathonTours and haven't gotten confirmation packet yet. Any way I can find my corral and bib information?

Also - @buckeyecinderella, O-H

<I'm a buckeye too, ran 22 on Friday on one of the few sunny days we've had in Columbus lately!>

Contact MarathonTours

 

[Cruz91]

Already sent MT an email, waiting to hear back.

Also - you guys can understand my pain... I forgot to wear two strategically placed bandaids on my 22 mile run this past weekend. Holy crap, that hurt! DW didn't have much sympathy for me - but I know anyone else who has done it would.

 

[cewait]

A quick tip on race day nutrition:

Through training, I always recommend trying new things. Yes, you should try and hone in on the things you like best, certainly try what will be provided on race day, but find possible solutions for a plan B.

My race day nutrition will look like this:

-two pieces of toast with PB&J and a large cup of coffee about 2 hours before race start
-30 minutes before race: 1 large banana and one 200mg caffeine pill
-one gel (about 100 calories & 25 carbs) every 45 minutes during the race, possibly an occasional sip of on course electrolyte drink
-If the temps are above 80, I will have one 215mg (sodium) Salt Stick tab an hour starting at hour 1

The keys to any successful nutrition plan is that it's simple, precise and 100% flexible and you have the ability to completely scratch it on race day and go with something else if it isn't working. Have a detailed plan on what you plan to eat and when you plan to eat it. Construct your nutrition plan by time, not mileage, but understand a few minutes early or late isn't that big of a deal. Have a specific route in mind, but a few alternatives in case you drop something or forget something or your stomach just isn't handling what it has handled all through training.

Don't make it too complicated BUT be specific and leave some flexibility. You need to have a plan B, and for alot of people your race will be determined not by what happens to you, but how you react to it. Leave yourself some options.

Thanks....

This is a critical and often ignored issue for destination races. Do nothing new for a race is key and one should be thinking now about what they do today and then what will be available on race morning at the AllStars, Poly, etc. Disney will have food courts and resort fast food counter service open with a limited service. i.e.. liquids, fruit and bread stuffs. Make sure that you think about how this may affect your run OR how can I address a special need outside a limited service.

For the most part, fueling during the race should be close for runners. Though I know personally, I am titrating the time between fueling on long runs. It’s funny, I have slowed up due to a couple injury issues this year and I find that I am fueling a little more often than when I was running well on all 8 cylinders. The secret is to understand what you optimum is and then lay that over onto the courses aid station spacing. What that will help you do is get a secondary reminder based on miles or landmarks that you are coming into an aid station at which you need to fuel.

I will add one thing to remember… Disney, like many other races, will mix sport drink at about half strength for the race. This means that if you are thinking I will survive on the electrolytic and caloric loading from drink alone, you may be in for a shock. The main reason for mixing less than full strength is that it is difficult to dissolve powder into cool water. By keeping to the recipe, many cups will literally have undisolved powder in the cup… that can lead to GI distress.

Also, as you pass the aid stations, expect the 6 oz cups to have only 3 oz of fluid. Rarely will one be filled more than half way. Take that into account as you think about hydration needs while on course and make sure that you take enough, but not too much fluid as you pass the aid stations.