OFFICIAL - NON SPOILER Amazing Race: Unfinished Business Premieres 2/20/11

I have a cousin that's deaf and legally blind. He would never act the way Luke did. He approaches everything with a "can do" attitude.


Everyone handles things differently.
Love how your cousin handles life but disabled or not people handle things in different ways.

Why does everyone have such an issue with this kid crying? Living with a disability, in another culture, pressured in a race & trying to please a parent may cause anyone to cry.
 
Okay, I wonder if we aren't being hard on Luke. It is not usual for people who get frustrated by a challenge to get emotional on the race. The race is known for keeping people going for a long time and you are aware of people leaving before you. I read that Luke did that tea tasting for 4 hours. I might get frustrated and weepy myself, although I tend to get mad first. They were not my favorite team but I give them A for effort to keep on going and finish it all.
 
Luke has always been a whinola on everything...always crying out to his mother or just whining about something.He definetely has been more annoying this season. I think hes just always been babied by his mom because of his disability. He needs to grow up and be a man. I know other deaf people and they are in no way like him. Granted the race is grueling and others have cried but mostly they were woman...the men just got angry...they didnt cry like a baby.
 
My 14yo has asperger's, and I can tell you he would have had a complete and total meltdown if he were in Zev's shoe's.

Maybe Zev being older, he has developed better coping skills, but my son would have been crying...he would start to feel like a failure, which would escalate his anxiety...having to drink that much tea, getting full, and probably feeling sick, he would started to gag and eventually, he would throw up each cup he had to drink. We would be out, because it would have become physically impossible for him to finish.

Mind over matter for an asperger's kid is extremely difficult. If the worst thing Zev did was drop a glass, then he did an amazing job keeping it in check. My son probably would have not just dropped the glass, but smashed the glass.

::yes:: Add in the sleep deprivation, the foreign surroundings, different tastes and smells... Don't get me started on what such a abrupt change in schedule does to someone with this condition.
 

Luke has always been a whinola on everything...always crying out to his mother or just whining about something.He definetely has been more annoying this season. I think hes just always been babied by his mom because of his disability. He needs to grow up and be a man. I know other deaf people and they are in no way like him. Granted the race is grueling and others have cried but mostly they were woman...the men just got angry...they didnt cry like a baby.

So it's ok for females to cry and not males?

I so much want to use a word here that would get me shut down for sure.

I'm so happy you all know people with disabilities that are such super stars!

I've dealt with 100% functioning people with jet lag and they are 100% animals.
 
ok...you are itching for a fight...not happening here with me....ta ta people.
 
Okay, I wonder if we aren't being hard on Luke. It is not usual for people who get frustrated by a challenge to get emotional on the race. The race is known for keeping people going for a long time and you are aware of people leaving before you. I read that Luke did that tea tasting for 4 hours. I might get frustrated and weepy myself, although I tend to get mad first. They were not my favorite team but I give them A for effort to keep on going and finish it all.


For me it wasn't just this crying instant. He has done that over and over through two races, he is rude and can be mean just like his mother. They don't seem like very nice people.
 
Everybody knows the saying until you have walked in someone else's shoes you have no right to judge. Until we run the race and deal with the sleep deprivation, the crazy schedules, the long days and dealing with a disability, we cannot know what Luke is feeling. Some people can handle it, some can't. Zev seems to be doing okay. Charna had a great attitude. Luke may just be cut from a different cloth.
 
Luke has always been a whinola on everything...always crying out to his mother or just whining about something.He definetely has been more annoying this season. I think hes just always been babied by his mom because of his disability. He needs to grow up and be a man. I know other deaf people and they are in no way like him. Granted the race is grueling and others have cried but mostly they were woman...the men just got angry...they didnt cry like a baby.


I agree:thumbsup2
 
For me it wasn't just this crying instant. He has done that over and over through two races, he is rude and can be mean just like his mother. They don't seem like very nice people.


That's what I'm thinking too:thumbsup2
 
Everyone handles things differently.
Love how your cousin handles life but disabled or not people handle things in different ways.

Why does everyone have such an issue with this kid crying? Living with a disability, in another culture, pressured in a race & trying to please a parent may cause anyone to cry.

Not everyone has an issue with the kid crying. But is it a repetative stress reliever for him - possibly? He cried a bunch his 1st season and has gotten weepy this season as well.

For you, it's not an issue. For others, it's annoying. Are you right or are they right in their opinion of how he reacts. Both sides are right - that is why it's called an opinion.

Like I said in an earlier post, I cut Zev some slack in his outburst. I know what he deals with everyday and I can't fathom how bad it is on the race for him. Someone else thought it was poor sportsman ship on his part and should have gotten a penalty for dropping and breaking the cup after presenting the auctioneer yet another wrong tea. The way we each looked at the same situation and came to different conclusions is perfectly fine. It's differenting opitions. Just adding, the person that posted that he should have gotten a penalty, we don't know if they knew about his autism or not. Maybe they didn't know before and now that we have talked about it, that they know there is a reason behind his actions, that they have a different outlook.

Do I cut Luke some slack, yea I do. After drinking all that tea, could it have been going thru his head that someone said something that help a lot of the other teams more quickly identify the tea that because of his being deaf, he didn't hear and it fustrated him. Could all that tea have been making him sick, maybe. I said it earlier, I would have pucked a couple of times if I had drank that much tea.

So it's ok for females to cry and not males?
I so much want to use a word here that would get me shut down for sure.

I'm so happy you all know people with disabilities that are such super stars!

I've dealt with 100% functioning people with jet lag and they are 100% animals.

For me, I would much rather see someone cry and release the stress, then to see someone scream, curse, hit things, or throw things - male or female.
 
I cut Zev some slack for his Asperger's and I also cut Luke some slack for his deafness. On his first season, I remember a lot of people refer to his "whining" when all I heard was a deaf person speaking in a typical manner for a person who can't hear what he's saying. I am no expert on the deaf community, but he sounds just like any other deaf person I've been around.

The crying was getting on my nerves this season. I'm no sexist, I hate when racers cry, men or women ;), but I'm not there dealing with the stress of the race. I might cry too, in that situation, I don't knnow. Editing plays a huge role, too. It's pretty clear who the producers are trying to get you to like or dislike, every season. Like how they glossed over the cowboys taking the GTs taxi this season, when in the past, they've made a big deal out of those kinds of things.
 
The crying was getting on my nerves this season. I'm no sexist, I hate when racers cry, men or women ;).

:thumbsup2

This is why I love Mallory so much. She is just having a great time! I can't help but smile everytime she reads a clue, and starts jumping up and down all excited.
 
I cut Zev some slack for his Asperger's and I also cut Luke some slack for his deafness. On his first season, I remember a lot of people refer to his "whining" when all I heard was a deaf person speaking in a typical manner for a person who can't hear what he's saying. I am no expert on the deaf community, but he sounds just like any other deaf person I've been around.

The crying was getting on my nerves this season. I'm no sexist, I hate when racers cry, men or women ;), but I'm not there dealing with the stress of the race. I might cry too, in that situation, I don't knnow. Editing plays a huge role, too. It's pretty clear who the producers are trying to get you to like or dislike, every season. Like how they glossed over the cowboys taking the GTs taxi this season, when in the past, they've made a big deal out of those kinds of things.

Your right about editing, maybe that has increased my sensitivity for him this season.
 
I'm wondering if Luke is developmentally delayed on top of being deaf. His crying outbursts just seem over the top. He doesn't seem to be handling the race like a 25 year old would. I understand he's deaf. I just wonder if there is more going on with him than we know.
 
The only reason I mentioned my cousin was I wanted people to know that not all deaf people act the way Luke does. There also was talk in his last season about his facial expressions and the way he acted.
 
For me it wasn't just this crying instant. He has done that over and over through two races, he is rude and can be mean just like his mother. They don't seem like very nice people.

:thumbsup2

This is why I love Mallory so much. She is just having a great time! I can't help but smile everytime she reads a clue, and starts jumping up and down all excited.

Yes, we are all entitled to our own opinions. These happen to be mine, too. :) (and I do know that Margie and Luke's characteristics could be the effect of editing....or not.)
 
I also thought it was ridiculous for Luke to be crying away like a baby. He's done this multiple times where he looks at his mom with puppy dog eyes and acts helpless. This challenge was not that difficult!! It's not like it was over the top physically demanding.. it only became tough for teams that made it tougher than it had to be.

Luke had absolutely no strategy, just drank every cup he could get his hands on. And then say, "mommmmmmmmy I can't do it." And he's 25? Are you kidding me?
 
Everyone handles things differently.
Love how your cousin handles life but disabled or not people handle things in different ways.

Why does everyone have such an issue with this kid crying? Living with a disability, in another culture, pressured in a race & trying to please a parent may cause anyone to cry.

I didn't have an issue with Luke crying at all; I was surprised to see so many on here did. I was a little annoyed with Zev (or was it Justin?) throwing the tea cup on the ground and breaking it.
 
I didn't have an issue with Luke crying at all; I was surprised to see so many on here did. I was a little annoyed with Zev (or was it Justin?) throwing the tea cup on the ground and breaking it.

Well he didn't throw it, just let go of it.
 














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