Official Fantasyland Expansion Q & A (Mickey gets evicted) PART II

[mom2rtk]

BTW... anyone near onsite that has heard/seen if the Fairies left EP last night/this morning?

I think I saw a news story about a streak of light in the sky over central Florida this morning....... maybe it was them?

 

[mesaboy2]

I think I saw a news story about a streak of light in the sky over central Florida this morning....... maybe it was them?

Good one.

 

[tpettie]

Well, it's blue--could be blue paint. Don't know what the significance of water under Dumbo is.

Disney 2010 by tpettie, on Flickr

In my attempt to get photos of the construction here is where my Minnie Hoodie ended up..... So water have some significance as I'm a clutz

 

[mesaboy2]

Disney 2010 by tpettie, on Flickr

In my attempt to get photos of the construction here is where my Minnie Hoodie ended up..... So water have some significance as I'm a clutz

LOL. Gotcha. I thought you were asking regarding thematic significance. You could alway go to Aladdin's Magic Carpets and drop your stuff in the water over there.

 

[kwitcherkicken99]

I think I saw a news story about a streak of light in the sky over central Florida this morning....... maybe it was them?

I thought Tink only flew at night???



[I'm obsessively watching for a dear friend who's schedule isn't conducive to stalking the fairies before her trip... ]

 

[mom2rtk]

[I'm obsessively watching for a dear friend who's schedule isn't conducive to stalking the fairies before her trip... ]

That's a tough gig......... but someone has to do it, right?

 

[kwitcherkicken99]

EXACTLY!

Poor thing has been too busy to plan and they leave in 2 weeks!

 

[Happy Mom2]

I'm trying to decide the dates for our next trip... mid Oct 2012, 1st week of Dec 2012 or mid Feb 2013. My kids are young, and we spend most of our time in MK DD really wants to see the two new castles, but I don't know if those are in the 1st or 2nd phase. Does anyone have any links for the two phases or suggestions? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

[Invisable89]

I'm trying to decide the dates for our next trip... mid Oct 2012, 1st week of Dec 2012 or mid Feb 2013. My kids are young, and we spend most of our time in MK DD really wants to see the two new castles, but I don't know if those are in the 1st or 2nd phase. Does anyone have any links for the two phases or suggestions? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

The only announcements that have been made is that the 1st phase should be completed by Fall 2012 & the 2nd phase by Fall 2013, nothing other than that unfortunately. But from construction pictures we guess that 'The Beauty And The Beast' section & 'The Little Mermaid' ride will probably be completed in the 1st phase, Storybook Circus is less clear & they haven't even started on the Seven Dwarves Mine Train.

 

[Happy Mom2]

The only announcements that have been made is that the 1st phase should be completed by Fall 2012 & the 2nd phase by Fall 2013, nothing other than that unfortunately. But from construction pictures we guess that 'The Beauty And The Beast' section & 'The Little Mermaid' ride will probably be completed in the 1st phase, Storybook Circus is less clear & they haven't even started on the Seven Dwarves Mine Train.

Thank you. Maybe we'll go in December again!

 

[Invisable89]

Thank you. Maybe we'll go in December again!

Yes, i certainly think Beast's Castle will be completed by Dec 2012!

Make sure you keep checking for updates, we're all hoping Disney will be more specific with dates soon!

There's plenty of links to construction pictures on here to keep you up-to-date though, in the meantime.

 

[baileybelle]

Updated Fantasyland info from Inside the Magic:

http://www.**************.net/tag/new-fantasyland/

 

[DCTooTall]

DC - do you remember/recall if they said HOW MANY Dumbos would be on each spindle?

The current one holds what, 16? So if it's merely doubled, then we could assume that they are using the existing Dumbo. If it's more than 16 per spindle, well, they must be making new ones...

I don't think it's ever been said officially. The only thing we would have to go on would be the concept art.

Even still, a general "spinny uppy downy ride[y]" ride system is pretty much almost an amusement park commodity. In the MK you already have 3 of them between Aladdin, Dumbo, and the AstroJets. You've got a couple of them over at the Universal parks too.... and I'm pretty sure most of us have seen similar ride systems in our local amusement parks as well.

Since the ride system itself is pretty much available off the shelf, I would think Disney's decision would have to include the simple question of is the cost of a new one really THAT much more than the cost to move the existing system? and would the more intangible cost of being able to quickly turn around (close one, open the next) be worth what may end up being a negligible hard cost difference?

Now if you notice, I'm specifically mentioning the ride system itself. The decoration and dumbo vehicles themselves which are custom to the Disney Park themselves could very well be recycled and transplanted from one ride system to another, And ultimately it would be a much cheaper and quicker prospect of just removing the Dumbo's from the Existing Ride System arms and carrying them over to the new location and attaching them on the arms of the new system.

Turn around time, I could even see Disney with it's history of pulling off incredible feats managing to close down Dumbo one evening, removing the Dumbo elephants, attaching them to a new ride system, And have the new location actually open the next day. (Off-season hours of course).

 

[chicagoshannon]

It sounds like they will have 2 new Dumbo's from that article. I agree with TooTall that if anything they'd just use the actual Dumbo's and attach them overnight with their Disney magic.

 

[pilferk]

It sounds like they will have 2 new Dumbo's from that article. I agree with TooTall that if anything they'd just use the actual Dumbo's and attach them overnight with their Disney magic.

There's another option, too.

If you're going to have ONE new set of Dumbos (and reuse the existing set of Dumbos):

You close down the "old" Dumbo ride mechanism at the end of a day.

You open 1/2 the new ride (so one new Dumbo ride mechanism, with the new set of Dumbos) the next day.

You spend the next week, off hours, migrating the "old" Dumbos to the "other" new ride mechanism...first attaching them, and then testing them to make sure everything "fits" and works right.

You never lose any ride capacity (assuming you've still got one Dumbo ride running with 16 new dumbos) that way, but still give yourself ample time to test the migration of the existing dumbos to the new ride mechanism.

 

[jenseib]

DC - do you remember/recall if they said HOW MANY Dumbos would be on each spindle?

The current one holds what, 16? So if it's merely doubled, then we could assume that they are using the existing Dumbo. If it's more than 16 per spindle, well, they must be making new ones...

I can't remember where I read it,but it was an announcement recently that Dumbo is going have new colors. Bright ones, instead of pastels, and yes it will have water under it. With that thought, I too wonder if they will get a whole new ride, or just repaint?

 

[jenseib]

I can't remember where I read it,but it was an announcement recently that Dumbo is going have new colors. Bright ones, instead of pastels, and yes it will have water under it. With that thought, I too wonder if they will get a whole new ride, or just repaint?

Ok, It was d 23 announcement. I can't find the water part, so maybe that was something I just thought was happening, but here is what is happening

Dumbo will get a new color palette - no more pastel. Bold colors like from the film. The new 2 Dumbos will be encircled by 8 panels telling the history of the film.

 

[DanBoris]

Turn around time, I could even see Disney with it's history of pulling off incredible feats managing to close down Dumbo one evening, removing the Dumbo elephants, attaching them to a new ride system, And have the new location actually open the next day. (Off-season hours of course).

I am not sure what condition the existing elephants are in, but I would think they were going to re-use them they would want to refurbish/repaint them first. Since one spinner is going to have brand new elephants you would want the ones on the second spinner to look as good as possible.

 

[jenseib]

I am not sure what condition the existing elephants are in, but I would think they were going to re-use them they would want to refurbish/repaint them first. Since one spinner is going to have brand new elephants you would want the ones on the second spinner to look as good as possible.

read post above yours

 

[DanBoris]

Ok, It was d 23 announcement. I can't find the water part, so maybe that was something I just thought was happening, but here is what is happening
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The picture of the Dumbo model shown at D23 does have a "channel" under the elephants which could be for the water feature.

Dan