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[Missy1961]

I thought I'd share my feelings about the premiere before episode 2 aired.

I loved it. My guess were almost totally wrong but that didn't bother me at all.

loved the whole continuation of the proposal. Flustered Kate is funny Kate.

loved his reason for proposing:
Kate, I’m not proposing to you to keep you here, or because I’m afraid I’m gonna lose you. I’m proposing because I can’t imagine my life without you. If that means when things get difficult we have to figure them out, then I’m willing to figure them out, assuming you’re willing to figure them out with me.

loved her response:
Yes, Richard Edgar Alexander Rodgers Castle, I will marry you.

and according to Twitter & Terri Miller, the writers couldn't decide which name she should use, so they went with the mashup.

loved their phone call when she had to cancel her visit - they were disappointed, but he understood, since he "cancelled last time." Loved the easy "I love you" and "I love you too".

and loved their reunion & the morning after.

loved him meeting McCord. Very funny.

loved when he got caught at the golf club he first tried to pretend he was just golfing, but when caught in the lie, he said 'crap' under his breath.

loved Lisa Edelstein as McCord.

loved that when Rick needed someone to talk to, he went to talk to the guys.

I had a feeling that the "hostage alley" training is like the "Kobayashi Maru" test on Star Trek - something no-one wins.

And even though there is a part 2, this isn't a true cliff hanger - we know he'll survive. But all in all, I really loved this episode. Downside for me was no Lanie, very little Espo & Ryan (but when they were there, they were great), very little Martha too. And I know they couldn't show us everything, but I would have loved to see reactions to the engagement. I have a feeling Alexis wasn't thrilled, but everyone else was.

 

[Missy1961]

I realized that I left out a few favorite quotes:

Castle: Can you at least finish taking that off before you shoot me?

Espo: So your hero's a spy?
Castle: more like a ruggedly handsome every man.

Castle: OK, she is not invited to the wedding.

Beckett: can you get the kind that makes me feel all.....
Castle: I'll buy a whole case

Castle: Are you gonna waterboard me? Because that will seriously affect our relationship

The "ruggedly handsome" thing is a throwback to something Castle said in season 1, and they used in the intro to the show for 2 years. Nathan Fillion has said that people say that to him all the time, and he said it once. (he also said it once last year, and Kate said it to him last year too.) Love that the writers use that sort of stuff.

 

[NotUrsula]

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The "ruggedly handsome" thing is a throwback to something Castle said in season 1, and they used in the intro to the show for 2 years. Nathan Fillion has said that people say that to him all the time, and he said it once. (he also said it once last year, and Kate said it to him last year too.) Love that the writers use that sort of stuff.

Ryan also said it, in "Rise", at the beginning of the ep when they passed the bookstore and he saw the standing cut-out in the window. (Which is also a gag about Castle's looks, btw. Standing cutout likenesses of fiction authors are pretty much never used in the mainstream book trade; the only authors who tend to do that are self-help authors who do seminars. It's another play on Castle's physical vanity that he would use that kind of advertising.)

It always makes me laugh listening to Fillion talk about Castle in the third person; he is always riffing on how vain Castle is. The irony I see in that is that Fillion himself has to be a bit vain as well, though he often jokes about his looks. (You will note that when NF was gaining weight when he had the knee problem during S4 that no jokes were ever made about Castle being out of shape, though a guy as vain as Castle supposedly is would have been in angst over it. Putting him on a diet or exercise program would have been a comic gold mine -- as it is in Frozen Heat.)

 

[Missy1961]

Stana Katic interview:

http://tvline.com/2013/09/30/castle-season-6-preview-stana-katic-rick-kate-wedding/

And the spoiler line in the middle is referring to next week's episode, it's not a major spoiler.

 

[NotUrsula]

The second sneak for Dreamworld is out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qz5XZwEkhKs

(Be sure to have a tissue handy when you watch this. Not a spoiler, but touching. Shades of Still.)


PS: Back to real world references in Deadly Heat, I found two more before I finished. The Puzzle Man mentions having studied "Edda symbols", and Rook tells Nikki that "I hear Edmonton is lovely this time of year."
(Edda being Terri Edda Miller, and Edmonton is NF's home town.)

 

[Missy1961]

There will be a Castle panel at the Paley Center tonight (7 PM PT, 10 PM ET). Live streaming here:

http://www.paleycenter.org/misc/09302013-live-stream.html

I won't be watching because I'll be watching the episode, but I'm sure lots will show up on YouTube in the coming days.

Thanks for the second Dreamworld promo! I was stuck in an unexpected meeting all morning.

 

[Missy1961]

Another awesome episode!

 

[Missy1961]

pictures from Paley:

http://12thprecinct.blogspot.com/20...ml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

 

[sailorstitch]

Pardon me if the has been discussed before. I haven't had the chance to read through all 50+ pages.....

Has anyone here played the Castle card game?
http://www.cryptozoic.com/games/castle-detective-card-game

I stumbled across it the past Aug at a gaming convention. I bought a copy and I *LOVE* it!!!!!

As for the show, I don't think Beckett likes her new job as much as she thought she would.

sailorstitch

 

[Missy1961]

Pardon me if the has been discussed before. I haven't had the chance to read through all 50+ pages.....

Has anyone here played the Castle card game?
http://www.cryptozoic.com/games/castle-detective-card-game

I stumbled across it the past Aug at a gaming convention. I bought a copy and I *LOVE* it!!!!!

As for the show, I don't think Beckett likes her new job as much as she thought she would.

sailorstitch

I bought it but haven't played it yet.

and yeah, I think next week is the last episode with her as a Federal agent. Loved how they shook up the status quo with the job, but I knew there was no way they could continue it.

 

[NotUrsula]

The key to Beckett's disappointment in the job is surprising her, I think. Going in, she thought that the big hurdles would be her separation from her family and her team, but it was what McCord said about shades of grey that really opened her eyes. All of the former is true, of course, but it is the ethical ramifications that are really starting to chafe.

Her entire adult life up until this point has been a crusade for justice. She rather naively thought that actually working for the Dept. of Justice would naturally be the best position from which to take that crusade further (now that she has solved the mystery of her mother's death and the motives behind it.) She absolutely HATED letting Bracken walk away, but she made the compromise that she did in order to protect Castle, both their families, and the team at the precinct who helped her, because she knew that in the same way that Bracken's backers threatened Montgomery's family, they would threaten hers as well. She feels that it was the correct choice under the circumstances, but she still feels torn up about making it.

The thing is, she is absolutely shackled by her sense of right and wrong -- McCord was correct, Beckett really has trouble with shades of grey. (Remember when she arrested the grandfather in A Chill Goes through Her Veins? She could have let him go. Jailing him hurt the victims' children yet again, and would not bring back either of their parents, and it wasn't as if he was at risk for ever being a repeat offender. Beckett just could not let it lie, because he had killed someone with malice aforethought, and from her perspective, that simply has to be punished.) She is getting better about understanding ambiguous moral choices, but she still feels that condoning them is an insult to her mothers' memory. Johanna's headstone, after all, reads "Vincit Omnia Veritas" -- Truth conquers all.

The world of policing politically-motivated crime is not a place where Beckett can thrive; because she just cannot deal with the necessary compromises. McCord has now realized that, and though she really admires Beckett's investigative skills, and will be sorry to lose her, she knows that Beckett won't be able to achieve real success at the job because she will always feel ambiguous about the real mission of the department.

Now then, having said all that, I really wouldn't mind if they took on more of these sorts of complicated investigative cases rather than straightforward homicides for every single ep. The show does have an issue with being too formulaic at times when it comes to the crimes, so a shakeup in that regard would help to keep it fresh. (NYPD also has special task forces, and Beckett can stretch herself there just as well.)

BTW, one of my favorite moments of the ep was Martha's little "squeee!" when Castle insulted Pi. I thought it was too cute that that was the thing that convinced her that he was really going to completely recover.
(I'm still wondering if there is something twisty about Pi. I don't necessarily think he's a villain; just that he really might not be the socially-handicapped crunchy stoner that he appears to be.)

PS: I *knew* I wasn't hallucinating that Katic's hair had somehow gotten cut between "Will you marry me?" and "OMG!" It was noticeable, and to me it was obvious and a bit jarring as a continuity flaw. I'm with Susan on the business of the hair extensions, though -- what's the point? Katic's time in the styling chair was already an issue for the production schedule, and that was before she cut it. Why on earth is is really necessary to waste time on putting in extensions -- just write the haircut into the show already!

 

[Missy1961]

interviews before Paley Center event:

http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/video?id=9269077#.UktvPfAxnSI.twitter

 

[chirurgeon]

Apparently TNT is not going to be showing "Still" and they didn't rerun it on ABC. Is it because of the bomb thing? I really wanted to see it again. I may have to buy it from iTunes if it is out of the rotation.

 

[Missy1961]

Apparently TNT is not going to be showing "Still" and they didn't rerun it on ABC. Is it because of the bomb thing? I really wanted to see it again. I may have to buy it from iTunes if it is out of the rotation.

I noticed that too. But did TNT show Lives of Others? It may be that they hold some episodes back on first replay.

 

[Missy1961]

sneak peek #1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U50Z1hDaXQQ&feature=em-uploademail

 

[NotUrsula]

sneak peek #1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U50Z1hDaXQQ&feature=em-uploademail

I love Katic's face in this scene -- she looks like a little kid being forced to eat broccoli.

 

[Missy1961]

Another little Deadly Heat/Castle crossover.

Toward the end of the book, there is a cop who does a lousy job watching someone - his name is Slaughter. Which is very funny if you remember the episode from season 4 with Adam Baldwin - Headhunters. In it, Baldwin played a cop named Slaughter who warned Castle: "If I ever see a character in one of your books like me, we're going to have words" I guess "Castle" figured Slaughter doesn't read much!

And Eunice (she was the mother of someone who sold Beckett & Castle money in "Secret's Safe with Me" in Season 5) didn't make an appearance.

 

[Missy1961]

I love Katic's face in this scene -- she looks like a little kid being forced to eat broccoli.

I'm sure she's remembering all the times she's hated taking orders from a Fed.

 

[NotUrsula]

Another little Deadly Heat/Castle crossover.

Toward the end of the book, there is a cop who does a lousy job watching someone - his name is Slaughter. Which is very funny if you remember the episode from season 4 with Adam Baldwin - Headhunters. In it, Baldwin played a cop named Slaughter who warned Castle: "If I ever see a character in one of your books like me, we're going to have words" I guess "Castle" figured Slaughter doesn't read much!

And Eunice (she was the mother of someone who sold Beckett & Castle money in "Secret's Safe with Me" in Season 5) didn't make an appearance.

At the recent PaleyFest, they were asking what the actors' favorite show pitches were, and Fillion said that he wanted to have previous guest-stars back; especially Baldwin. It *would* be funny if they did so, and the first thing out of "Slaughter" was an attack on Castle about the character. It will probably cost him another jacket, LOL.

So, next book Castle makes up for the oversight, and we get a "dashing Columbian-American Federal agent" who interviews a witness named Eunice?

Personally, I'm lobbying for a repeat appearance by Dana Delaney, now that she has some time on her hands again. It would be a lot of fun to have her tell Beckett "I told you so." (Though, honestly, I admit that I'm a huge Delaney fan; I have been ever since Colleen McMurphy went off to Vietnam. I'd be happy just to listen to her read the phone book).

 

[Missy1961]

There are a lot of fans on Twitter who've been lobbying for the return of Jordan Shaw since Body of Proof got cancelled. I know I've tweeted it a lot!