Official 2013 Tower of Terror 10 Miler

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Apologize if this has been asked before....Does anyone know the approximate times for corral placement for ToT?
I did my first 10K this past weekend...and even though it wasn't the fastest of times, I was pretty darn happy with it, so I am submitting it.
Just wondering cuz I want to make sure I have enough time to have fun while running without having to worry about being swept.
TIA!!

I am with you!! I did my first 10K this past Sunday, and submitted my time by email. I got a response literally within minutes showing the new finishing time this qualified me for. I, too, am curious whether there's a way to get a general idea of which corral a given time places you in... there was no such info in the email I got back - I just figured they wouldn't know for sure yet so wouldn't say...

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I do the opposite, run minutes instead of miles, and haven't had any problems with being adequately trained. I made my own plan with elements of Galloway, Higdon and Another Mother Runner, and do 2 mid-week runs in minutes: originally 30 each, pushed to 35 each, and am now at 40 each. Before all is said and done, they should be at 45 each by the race. Weekend long runs I do in distance.

What helps me wrap my head around a training plan's distance is viewing it in terms of incremental increases of around 10% per week (or every other week if one does cut-back weeks). That's total mileage over a week, so maybe your short runs get a little longer or maybe not, but your total mileage shouldn't go up more than about 10% from one week to the next.

Very helpful to hear your experience - thank you!! Maybe I'm worrying for nothing after seeing that most plans out there go by miles and not minutes.

Anyone else use minutes vs. miles for short runs in their training?

 

[kbonner]

Mercedes Marathon Relay (2012)
BIRMINGHAM, AL

LEG3*10K
Team: Go Mo Go #2
RANK TIME PACE
3 42:28 6:51

Do you think they would accept this as proof or would I need something more concrete that had my name on it?

 

[PrincessV]

Apologize if this has been asked before....Does anyone know the approximate times for corral placement for ToT?

They didn't list the pace times on which corral placements were made last year, so we're all kind of in the dark on that. FWIW, my friend submitted proof of a 2:25:00 half and was placed in A; I submitted no proof and entered an expected finish of whatever the minimum was we could submit without proof and was placed in C. Note, too, that they only had 4 big corrals last year - I wouldn't be surprised to see more corrals with fewer people in each this year.

Very helpful to hear your experience - thank you!!

Happy to share!

Mercedes Marathon Relay (2012)
BIRMINGHAM, AL

LEG3*10K
Team: Go Mo Go #2
RANK TIME PACE
3 42:28 6:51

Do you think they would accept this as proof or would I need something more concrete that had my name on it?

I'm pretty sure it needs to show your name, otherwise how would they know that time belongs to you, right? Is there anything that would cross-reference, like a list of team members' names?

 

[belle032]

Has anyone tried the Gatorade Energy Chews? I saw an ad for them on Twitter and was interested to see how effective they were. There was only 1 review on Amazon, but it was 5 stars so I'm intrigued! Thought I'd see if any of ya'll had experience with them!

 

[PE_TCR]

I have used the Gatorade Energy chews. I liked them UNTIL I started trying the GU Chomps. Now those are my go to chews. I still use the Gatorade chews as a last minute chew before the start. But I have really liked the Chomps a lot more.

 

[Fruto76]

I have used the Gatorade Energy chews. I liked them UNTIL I started trying the GU Chomps. Now those are my go to chews. I still use the Gatorade chews as a last minute chew before the start. But I have really liked the Chomps a lot more.

I love the Cran apple Chomps... It's all I will buy for myself. I use Gu on race day because it stores easier on the belt but its always chomps prior to and on my long training runs!

 

[rachlovestv]

Has anyone tried the Gatorade Energy Chews? I saw an ad for them on Twitter and was interested to see how effective they were. There was only 1 review on Amazon, but it was 5 stars so I'm intrigued! Thought I'd see if any of ya'll had experience with them!

I've tried those when I ran out of my usually gummies, and just had to grab what the grocery store had. They have the same consistency and size of the Clif Shot Blocks, so if you've tried those, they are similar. I usually eat either the gu chomps or my new obsession, the honey stinger gummie chews. I like the honey stinger ones the best because they are smaller and not quite so dense, plus there are some great flavors. I usually eat a pack of gummies before my long runs, and then during my run, I switch to energy gels, either Clif or Gu. They're just easier to store and eat on the run.

 

[bumbershoot]

Yay, we're back to electrolyte replacement/energy things again! Just about my fave running-related subject. Alas I have no knowledge or experience with the Gatorade product. I'm a ShotBlok margarita (3x sodium!) kinda person. And SportsBeans. I have no idea how I'm going to carry all of the things I'll need, LOL.

 

[belle032]

Thanks for the input everyone! I think I'll try the gatorade ones, clif blocks and honey stingers and see what works best for me. I have a weird food texture phobia thing...I can't handle anything too mushy or soft, like jello, pudding, marshmallows, whipped cream, etc. I don't even like gummy bears or worms that much. So I'm trying to stick to the blocks and chews because I KNOW the gels would freak me out!

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I usually eat a pack of gummies before my long runs, and then during my run, I switch to energy gels, either Clif or Gu.

Would love some input on this -- I struggle with how many of these things to chew for different length runs.

Any tips from anyone would be AWESOME!!

 

[FFigawi]

Would love some input on this -- I struggle with how many of these things to chew for different length runs.

We're all an experiment of one, as Charles likes to say, so what works for other may or may not work for you. That said, you typically need one gel (or 3 bloks or one pack of beans) every hour or so during a marathon, depending on how hard you're working. You'll need to take something more often if you're running to bust out a PR than if you're just running for the fun of it. As the race distance gets shorter, you need less supplemental energy, but again, this also depends on the level of effort you're putting forth. For me, I tend to do the following:

Marathon for PR: 1 gel 10 minutes before the start, 1 gel every 30 minutes during the race
Marathon for fun: 1 gel 10 minutes before the start, 1 gel every hour
Half for PR: 1 gel 10 min before the start, 1 gel every 45 min
Half for fun: 1 gel 10 min before start, 1 gel at 60-75 minutes
Shorter distance: 1 gel 10 min before start, rarely during the race

 

[PrincessV]

We're all an experiment of one, as Charles likes to say, so what works for other may or may not work for you.

That's been my experience over the past year and a half. I think I started with the basic concept of 100 cals per hour and started experimenting as my long runs got longer, noting in my run data what worked and what didn't. At this point, I've got a pretty good handle on what my body's needs are. I'll share, but it really is different for everyone...

Pre-run: eat a good meal 45 mins- 1hour pre-run.
30 mins: 3-4 Honey Stinger chews
60 mins: 1/4 Clif bar
90 mins: 3-4 chews
120 mins: 1/4 Clif bar
150: mins: 3-4 chews
180 mins: 1/4 Clif bar

I tried doing just the chews, but I'm hypoglycemic to start and running makes it much worse; my body was overproducing insulin and dropping my blood sugar too much. The Clif bars are more complex carbs with some protein, which keeps my blood sugar/insulin levels more stable.

 

[Weluvdisny]

I have found that sports beans never want to come out of the original package whilst running. And I agree that chomps take too long to chew. I will do a chocolate gu before the race (can't find any other flavors I like yet. I have a peanut butter to try). I might have to try a honey stinger on my next long run and see how they are.

Do you wear a belt to carry all the fuel? I was thinking about getting a sparkle skirt to take advantage of all the pockets.

 

[HiMagicFan]

I submitted no proof and entered an expected finish of whatever the minimum was we could submit without proof and was placed in C.

How did you find out what corral placement you were?

I don't remember being told and just assumed that when I had no proof but entered the minimum time finish that I would automatically be in the last corral.

 

[rachlovestv]

How did you find out what corral placement you were?

I don't remember being told and just assumed that when I had no proof but entered the minimum time finish that I would automatically be in the last corral.

You usually can find out when you get your confirmation sheet a few weeks before the race, which will have your bib number on it. And then when you actually pick up your bib, it will have your corral on it.

I'm not sure how things work now, but no proof of time doesn't necessarily mean the last corral. Like PrincessV, when I ran the Tinker Bell Half in 2012, it was my first race and I had no proof of time. I estimated my finish time as 2:45, the lowest you could go with no proof of time, and was placed in Corral C.

 

[bellaally]

Anyone know how early family can go to DHS for the party. I read at 10pm, but I read someone's post about being able to enter after the start of the race

 

[bumbershoot]

Anyone know how early family can go to DHS for the party. I read at 10pm, but I read someone's post about being able to enter after the start of the race

The party info says that it starts at 10. Same time that the race starts, isn't it?

We're all an experiment of one, as Charles likes to say, so what works for other may or may not work for you. ...



Half for fun: 1 gel 10 min before start, 1 gel at 60-75 minutes
Shorter distance: 1 gel 10 min before start, rarely during the race

So true that we're all different. For me, while I loved the taste of the Stingers, all they seemed to be, for me, was sugar. Carbs are great, but for me I need the salt, bigtime. But for some reason the little packet of salt things I got as part of my experimental purchase, scares me, and I haven't yet used it. I don't want to accidentally hurt myself!

I practice with the replacements during training, obviously, and just recently I started eating one shotblok (not all 3 that is a serving) at the beginning of the run, and it has been GREAT. Instead of starting to fade then coming back, I start off normal and then get stronger. I had been wondering if I was making it up, that I could *start* by taking something, and now there's your post. Thanks.


weird thing...I'm incredibly sensitive TO sodium, and have been since I was a young teen...I will swell like crazy, for instance, if I have a margarita with salt on the rim... But then I sweat so much during exercise that I NEED the salt. So it's a tricky thing for me, which is why I've only been using 1/3 serving (at a time) of the shotbloks recently.

I have found that sports beans never want to come out of the original package whilst running. And I agree that chomps take too long to chew. I will do a chocolate gu before the race (can't find any other flavors I like yet. I have a peanut butter to try). I might have to try a honey stinger on my next long run and see how they are.

Do you wear a belt to carry all the fuel? I was thinking about getting a sparkle skirt to take advantage of all the pockets.

I plan on distilling the beans into something else, because I don't want to argue with that little packet.

I bought a very simple belt from RoadRunner Sports, and I'm loving it. It's their brand. I wear it on the treadmill, looking silly, but I've got to get used to it. I have practiced with my phone in the belt (not sure if I'll be bringing it...I don't run with music anymore, and I wouldn't be able to hear the run/walk alerts just from the phone, and the idea of being that sweaty and having earbuds in makes me shudder) but it works better in my SkirtSports Happy Girl (that's the longer length running skirt they have) shorts pocket. I have it in a Lifeproof case which is waterproof, so I don't think I have to worry about sweat or anything in that case.

But I have yet to practice with scads of replacements products, so I have to do that and make sure I don't end up just scattering everything on the ground.



And I'm mystified as to what I'll do about drinking. I haven't tried a belt with water bottles, but I *feel* like having water strapped to me will make me nutty. But...are the water stations going to be enough for me? If not, then I'll be in trouble.

This running thing is expensive!



Is it here or on the Half/Marathon thread that people were talking about what foods they'll be eating during recovery? I'm so excited about my late breakfast/early lunch at Tusker House on the 6th that I can barely deal with it.

 

[frisbeego]

I'm not sure how things work now, but no proof of time doesn't necessarily mean the last corral.

Per runDisney: "If proof of time is not provided, you will be placed in the last start corral."

 

[rachlovestv]

Per runDisney: "If proof of time is not provided, you will be placed in the last start corral."

That's not always how it was, though.