Official 2011 Princess Half Marathon Thread - Link to new thread Post 3703!

[roomthreeseventeen]

Also, I know a lot of people put their allergies on their RoadID. Basically, anything you'd want a first responder to know when treating you.

 

[elbowglitter]

I have one of the RoadIDs that has my name and a number/website that they can access. That way, I can put in more info - multiple emergency contacts, blood types, allergies, even notes! So when I'm traveling to Disneyland with a friend this weekend, I can have her be the emergency contact.

 

[HockeyKat]

I just have a question about getting to the race on race day. If you were to drive yourself how do that work? Where would the buses let you off if you were taking the bus from one of the host resorts?

I am not really thrilled with the choices of the host resorts and will have a rental. Just not sure of how it all works. Thanks!

I drove last year and it worked out great. You actually wind up parking a little closer in than where the bus lets you off.

We got there early to make sure that traffic wouldn't freak me out, so a little before 4:30, and then ate breakfast in the parking lot in the warm car.

I think we left BWV around 4:15. There was some traffic getting into Epcot but no worse than trying to park at any other large event.

Plus you don't have to deal with bag check that way.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Totally off-topic, but for those who are struggling with their pace: you WILL race faster than you train. You won't even know where the energy comes from, but the training will kick in. I run about an 11:00/min mile long run, and the other day ran 8:57 splits for a 5k. I have NO idea where that came from, nor did I think I could run that fast. Apparently, I can.

You'll be shocked at what your body can do.

 

[HockeyKat]

Totally off-topic, but for those who are struggling with their pace: you WILL race faster than you train. You won't even know where the energy comes from, but the training will kick in. I run about an 11:00/min mile long run, and the other day ran 8:57 splits for a 5k. I have NO idea where that came from, nor did I think I could run that fast. Apparently, I can.

You'll be shocked at what your body can do.

This is a rule of thumb for my running club. We train 2 min slow from race pace. I had to see it to believe it, too.

 

[Jeter02]

Totally off-topic, but for those who are struggling with their pace: you WILL race faster than you train. You won't even know where the energy comes from, but the training will kick in. I run about an 11:00/min mile long run, and the other day ran 8:57 splits for a 5k. I have NO idea where that came from, nor did I think I could run that fast. Apparently, I can.

You'll be shocked at what your body can do.

That's exciting news. I can agree with that, I think alot of time people get all hyped up with all the energy flowing. There are even times you want to push yourself more so to keep up with others. Its all a rush, but exciting

 

[cewait]

Totally off-topic, but for those who are struggling with their pace: you WILL race faster than you train. You won't even know where the energy comes from, but the training will kick in. I run about an 11:00/min mile long run, and the other day ran 8:57 splits for a 5k. I have NO idea where that came from, nor did I think I could run that fast. Apparently, I can.

You'll be shocked at what your body can do.

This is interesting and yes, you can run a race faster than a training long run but let me throw just a little wisdom onto the thought for races longer than a 10k.

If you are a first timer start the race at your training pace. You can always speed up in a controlled fashion but slowing down can be constant walk if your push too hard early. Use the crowd in the first mile and a half to help you control the urge to sprint. If you have had a great training season and all your long runs have been trouble free then feel free to push the pace by a minute a mile if you are training slower than a 10 minute pace. Finally, if you have a few long races under your belt you should have a sense for how you react to the distance. Get 6-8 miles under your belt then feel free to press the back of the race. On this course, mile 6 gets you THROUGH MK. That is a great place to bring your thoughts inward and focus on breathing , stride, feelings and the back of the runner 2-3 in front of you.

I have seen way too many folks even in a half head out too fast and drag in on the back half. A negative split race (negative is the front half split is slower than the second half) is a great way to run a race. It will plant a great set of memories into your brain and you will be back for another race.
If you control the first half you will have the legs to speed up on the back half. Remember, the back half is just a little tougher than the front.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

This is interesting and yes, you can run a race faster than a training long run but let me throw just a little wisdom onto the thought for races longer than a 10k.

If you are a first timer start the race at your training pace. You can always speed up in a controlled fashion but slowing down can be constant walk if your push too hard early. Use the crowd in the first mile and a half to help you control the urge to sprint. If you have had a great training season and all your long runs have been trouble free then feel free to push the pace by a minute a mile if you are training slower than a 10 minute pace. Finally, if you have a few long races under your belt you should have a sense for how you react to the distance. Get 6-8 miles under your belt then feel free to press the back of the race. On this course, mile 6 gets you THROUGH MK. That is a great place to bring your thoughts inward and focus on breathing , stride, feelings and the back of the runner 2-3 in front of you.

I have seen way too many folks even in a half head out too fast and drag in on the back half. A negative split race (negative is the front half split is slower than the second half) is a great way to run a race. It will plant a great
set of memories into your brain and you will be back for another race.
If you control the first half you will have the legs to speed up on the back half. Remember, the back half is just a little tougher than the front.

Oh yeah, I totally agree with this. I plan on being conservative as much as possible until mile 9 or so, and then seeing what I have left in me.

 

[cantwaitvaca09]

Totally off-topic, but for those who are struggling with their pace: you WILL race faster than you train. You won't even know where the energy comes from, but the training will kick in. I run about an 11:00/min mile long run, and the other day ran 8:57 splits for a 5k. I have NO idea where that came from, nor did I think I could run that fast. Apparently, I can.

You'll be shocked at what your body can do.

This is a rule of thumb for my running club. We train 2 min slow from race pace. I had to see it to believe it, too.

I was wondering about that, because my 5K this weekend was a 13 min pace and I am always a 15.3 at least. I really thougth their clock was wrong.

Tonight 2.75 mile run finished with a bleacher run.

 

[cewait]

Breakthrough run alert! Had a bad bike wreck in Feb 09 coupled with a lot of life changing events……

I have a hill profile for the treadmill we call a Hill-Strength workout. Warms up then does a 6-7-8-9-10 interval with 2 min at each elevation all repeated 5 times. It is a HR controlled workout that really works the buns and hammies. Training for the 09 races this was a staple of my workouts. Tonight I had an elevation gain of 1680 feet for the workout.

Distance/speed is really down but the elevation gain is just over a third of a mile up. It remains way short of my best but I have been hovering below this threshold for most of the summer. Takes a lot more effort to haul that extra 15 pounds up the dang hill! Next mark, 2640 feet gained (requires bumping all elevations by 2%). I will be Goofy ready (or just plain Goofy) once these workouts reach that mark.



I’ll quit tooting the horn now

 

[bounceliketigger]

Basically, if something happens to you, and you can't speak for yourself, your RoadID can speak for you. If for some reason you got heatstroke, or fell, or something like that, a first responder would know your name and your contact information immediately without having to scroll through your cell phone contacts. Also, there's a chance that if you fell or something, that you'd fall ON your phone, rendering it useless to a first responder.

And you can put up to 4 lines on it, I think. So, you could add a medical alert for example. Or your insurance info, spouse's name, whatever.

 

[bounceliketigger]

I drove last year and it worked out great. You actually wind up parking a little closer in than where the bus lets you off.

We got there early to make sure that traffic wouldn't freak me out, so a little before 4:30, and then ate breakfast in the parking lot in the warm car.

I think we left BWV around 4:15. There was some traffic getting into Epcot but no worse than trying to park at any other large event.

Plus you don't have to deal with bag check that way.

Ah! I didn't even think of the staying in the warm car part!! I didn't want to drive because of traffic getting in. We could see the lines from the buses and it was crazy! BUT, we were mulling around outside trying to stay warm while those folks were nice and toasty in their cars. Hmmm. Might have to re-think this!

 

[Trudes]

I have a hill profile for the treadmill we call a Hill-Strength workout. Warms up then does a 6-7-8-9-10 interval with 2 min at each elevation all repeated 5 times. It is a HR controlled workout that really works the buns and hammies.

Thanks Coach! I saw you post this before, wrote it down, and I programmed one similar to this as one of my custom workouts on my treadmill. HOWEVER, I didn't repeat X 5. I was just looking for a 30 minute incline workout at the time. I am up to 40 minute cross training workouts, so I need to do it at least X 2 now. I was basically walking the workout hoping it would qualify as a cross training workout as I know I can't just run everyday. It was a great workout. I need to add it as a workout each week.

 

[dumbo_buddy]

great job coach!!

so i purchased a used copy of marathon for mortals after seeing it mentioned so much and so far i'm really enjoying it. i like that the one author was not an athlete all his life but, in fact, a real mortal. i also liked how he promised that anyone can do this if they put the work in. yes!

i didn't finish the book yet so it's no wonder why i didn't quite understand the workouts mentioned for one of the days. the tempo (i think that's what it's called) was a little confusing.

anyway, i found that book to be very motivating. yet, as i say that i'm thinking of skipping my 3.5 miler today. it's supposed to be 96 today and it's already 77 at 7am. i'm going to try to get out by 8am but if not, it might just be too hot. i rreeeeeeally can't afford to skip yet. i'm not disciplined enough!

 

[poppinspal]

All this talk about the RoadId, I ordered mine a few days ago. I thought about this at my race Sunday, forget even being able to identify me if something happens, I have a penicillin allergy and I would want anyone working on me to know that.

dumbo_buddy- I have read my Marathon for Mortals book a number of times and I think you'll after you read it that things will start making more sense. It's always best not to skip but you really need to be careful with the heat. Could you do your run later at night when it's started to cool down again?


I have a question and I may end up having to just suck it up and see another doctor about it. I have a bunion on one of my feet. (let me state right now they run in the family and I used to wear extremely high heels. They are not from running!) I find that for the past year they seem to be really bothering me so I try to wear shoes that they are more comfortable in. Does anyone have any have any experience with this and how to maybe make it so it bothers me less? I know surgery is an option but I work on my feet so it'd take me out of work and the doctor isn't even sure that it would be worth it due to the pain I'd feel after surgery. Anyone have any advice?

 

[cewait]

great job coach!!

so i purchased a used copy of marathon for mortals after seeing it mentioned so much and so far i'm really enjoying it. i like that the one author was not an athlete all his life but, in fact, a real mortal. i also liked how he promised that anyone can do this if they put the work in. yes!

i didn't finish the book yet so it's no wonder why i didn't quite understand the workouts mentioned for one of the days. the tempo (i think that's what it's called) was a little confusing.

anyway, i found that book to be very motivating. yet, as i say that i'm thinking of skipping my 3.5 miler today. it's supposed to be 96 today and it's already 77 at 7am. i'm going to try to get out by 8am but if not, it might just be too hot. i rreeeeeeally can't afford to skip yet. i'm not disciplined enough!

John is an interesting guy. He is an example of positive expectations.

As far as scrapping runs, first, never beat yourself up for missing a run, unless you seem to be missing a lot of runs or saying it another way, not making many runs. Even then it is just a slap to the consciousness seeking to reprioritize the runs. Missing a run here and there is ok.

It is tough to get out the door when temps are in the upper 70’s before sunrise. Around here, that is just a fact of life. This August we were +6F over normal on morning temps…. Making several runs start in the low 80’s with near 100% humidity. Once the sun cleared the horizon, you would melt in a hurry. It just hurt to put running shoes on as you knew the air would be oppressive and thick. Hopefully this front coming across the continent will push the temps off shore and give you a great weekend. For us, we get ‘dry heat’ for the weekend.

 

[dumbo_buddy]

John is an interesting guy. He is an example of positive expectations.

As far as scrapping runs, first, never beat yourself up for missing a run, unless you seem to be missing a lot of runs or saying it another way, not making many runs. Even then it is just a slap to the consciousness seeking to reprioritize the runs. Missing a run here and there is ok.

It is tough to get out the door when temps are in the upper 70’s before sunrise. Around here, that is just a fact of life. This August we were +6F over normal on morning temps…. Making several runs start in the low 80’s with near 100% humidity. Once the sun cleared the horizon, you would melt in a hurry. It just hurt to put running shoes on as you knew the air would be oppressive and thick. Hopefully this front coming across the continent will push the temps off shore and give you a great weekend. For us, we get ‘dry heat’ for the weekend.

after hurricane earl passes (and hopefully he passes quickly and with not much damage as we live a block from the water), the weekend is supposed to be gorgeous! in the 70s! my neighborhood does a huge 4-day long party with all sorts of activities (my 1 year old will be participating in his first swimming and running races this weekend!!!). having my long run during the weekend (5 miles) is really good because it will force me to stay away from the booze as much as possible!!

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i have no advice for the bunions...i hope you can avoid surgery as my friend's mom had bunion surgery and she was off her feet for while.

 

[cewait]

I have a question and I may end up having to just suck it up and see another doctor about it. I have a bunion on one of my feet. (let me state right now they run in the family and I used to wear extremely high heels. They are not from running!) I find that for the past year they seem to be really bothering me so I try to wear shoes that they are more comfortable in. Does anyone have any have any experience with this and how to maybe make it so it bothers me less? I know surgery is an option but I work on my feet so it'd take me out of work and the doctor isn't even sure that it would be worth it due to the pain I'd feel after surgery. Anyone have any advice?

I am sure you are padding the area with cushioned tape. Has the doctor suggested a cortizone injection? It would take you away from running a few days and may only give temporary relief.

As far as the surgical option, I have always heard that foot surgery is an iffy proposition. For example, I run with someone who has had a couple operations on the feet and swear it was the best thing they ever did, but have another friend to does not run who is not sure they made the correct decision. None of these were bunion removals. I know this is not much help.

Good luck with your decision. I would look to a doctor who has a running slant to their practice to get an alternative opinion.

 

[cantwaitvaca09]

Nancy, I would not worry about missing today's run.
I have noticed for me that once in a while taking a few extra days off HELPED me in the long runs.

Good Luck... We have the heat here too. I should pass by tonight.
I hope.

 

[dumbo_buddy]

Nancy, I would not worry about missing today's run.
I have noticed for me that once in a while taking a few extra days off HELPED me in the long runs.

Good Luck... We have the heat here too. I should pass by tonight.
I hope.

well, i knocked it out. i did the run. and it was....HOT!! i kept thinking about how pissed i would be at myself for not running. i think i need to stop getting myself so worked up about this whole thing. i tend to become consumed by things once i set my mind to it (like, after my son was born i just focused on planning every detail of our disney trip when he was 7 months old. it was all i thought about!). seems like the half marathon is something i'm becoming obsessed with. probably not all that healthy! but at least it's better than becoming obsessed with chocolate....right??