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And don't forget: we live in states that don't really count.;) Now excuse me while I have a glass of pinot grigio followed by my latte.:thumbsup2


I'm not young, not affluent by any stretch of the imagination and I live in a red state. But I'll join you in the glass of pinot. :drinking1
 
I'm not young, not affluent by any stretch of the imagination and I live in a red state. But I'll join you in the glass of pinot. :drinking1

Pinot is so yesterday.

Try some of the old growth southern Italian wines. Some of those grape families go back thousands of years and are selling quite reasonably. :cloud9:
 
I'm not young, not affluent by any stretch of the imagination and I live in a red state. But I'll join you in the glass of pinot. :drinking1

Well if you're not black either, then using the Clinton campaign's official "voter appropriateness meter", you, my dear friend, are supporting the wrong candidate. Now put down that wine, pick up up your socket wrench and a can of PBR and head over to the DLC for a thorough scrubbing...you'll be singing Hillary's praises come tomorrow morning!!
 


Thanks for bringing that over.... needs it's own thread, but who will read the entire transcript.....

On an aside Hillary was most certainly trying to go after an Obama pledged delegate:

http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/03/14/the-battle-for-iowa-continues.aspx

And for Quote of the night:

"I meant what I said, glad I said it and it had the desired affect." - James Carville

What an *ss. So anyone who ever knew the Clinton's on a personal level should just vote for her even if they don't believe she would be the BEST next Preside.... okay, just vote your loyalty, d*mn the country & what you might really think. :sad2: typical, even predictable...
 
Pinot is so yesterday.

Try some of the old growth southern Italian wines. Some of those grape families go back thousands of years and are selling quite reasonably. :cloud9:

If it used to be a grape and has been fermenting a while I'll drink it.
 
Well if you're not black either, then using the Clinton campaign's official "voter appropriateness meter", you, my dear friend, are supporting the wrong candidate. Now put down that wine, pick up up your socket wrench and a can of PBR and head over to the DLC for a thorough scrubbing...you'll be singing Hillary's praises come tomorrow morning!!

I'm a fairly :eek: old (ack, I hate saying that) fairly light-complected woman. I think their meter is cracked.

Do they even make PBR anymore? :confused3 Seriously?
 
Check out this post on dailykos:
:rotfl2: :lmao: :thumbsup2 Pretty soon we'll have some of the Clinton supporters using these metrics as a way to convince some that Clinton is actually winning.


Five Ways Clinton Leads Obama
by Cameron Fredman
Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 09:39:37 PM PDT

[from the diaries - BarbinMD]

Over the weekend, Senator Evan Bayh suggested we measure the success of the candidates not by delegates earned, but by the electoral votes of the states they’ve won. In the spirit of Senator Bayh, I present you with five additional metrics that I pulled out of my ***. As you’ll see, Hillary Clinton is either winning or tied with Obama in every case.

I should say at the outset that this study is highly scientific and my methods are rigorous. Except where otherwise noted, the data for this study is available here. I have excluded American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and Democrats voting abroad, because their inclusion would be un-American. Similarly, I have excluded the District of Columbia, which isn’t even a state.

Total number of "yellow" states on Wikipedia’s map of the United States

CLINTON: 5

OBAMA: 4

By Barack Obama’s own admission, at the conclusion of his Iowa address, he noted, "we are not a collection of red states and blue states." He failed, however, to specifically identify the colors that should be assigned to the states. If anyone is to resolve this question, it is Wikipedia, the repository of all human knowledge, which makes clear that we are a nation of green, yellow, red, and pink states. It’s important of course that this study be conducted in a fair and nonarbitrary fashion, so I determined the color metric (yellow) by eliminating the states least frequently associated with submarines in Beatles songs. This yields a slight advantage to Hillary Clinton, 5 to 4.

Total number of Commonwealths

CLINTON: 1 (Massachusetts)

OBAMA: 1 (Virginia)

Here the race is neck and neck, but Clinton is expected to take Pennsylvania. As there are only four commonwealths total, it is virtually impossible for Obama to beat Clinton on the Commonwealth count. If Clinton beats Obama in Kentucky, his claim that he has won more states will be canceled out by her claim that she has won more Commonwealths.

Total number of "New" States

CLINTON: 4

OBAMA:0

Hilllary Clinton has won New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, and New York. By contrast, Obama has failed to win a single state with the word "New" in its name. Obama’s failure among self-proclaimed new states, raises serious questions about his supposed strength among young voters (new people) and his supposed message of change (new policies).

Average Highest Elevation

CLINTON: 6135 Feet

OBAMA: 6097 Feet

Frankly, I’m surprised that more attention hasn’t been drawn to this. Obama claims to want to elevate the level of discourse, but he has failed in states with the highest elevations. Clinton has won on Mount Whitney (California), Humphreys Peak (Arizona), Boundary Peak (Nevada), and Wheeler Peak (New Mexico). Perhaps more significantly, there are so few peaks left that despite the close margins, Obama has no hope of regaining the altitude vote. Clinton also leads among states with the highest average mean elevation: (Clinton: 1908.8 feet Obama: 1457.7 feet).

Average Official State Mixed Drink

CLINTON: Wine, Milk, Coffee, Cranberry Juice, Orange Juice, Tomato Juice

OBAMA: Kool-Aid, Beer, Conecuh Ridge Whiskey, Milk, Moxie, South Carolina Grown Tea

It’s a close call, but on balance, Clinton has the better tasting official state mixed drink. Here’s how this is tabulated: Most states have an official state beverage (Wikipedia State Beverage List). Using equal parts of each state beverage from each state that each candidate won, I was able to produce two mixed drinks. I don’t want to go into the judging details except to say that Obama’s combination of Whiskey and Kool-Aid left me questioning whether his coalition of voters can hold together beyond the late night taco bell run.

Conclusion

It’s clear that the time has come for Obama to drop out of the race. By almost any measure imaginable (excluding delegates, popular vote, primaries, or caucuses), Clinton is leading.
 
I'm a fairly :eek: old (ack, I hate saying that) fairly light-complected woman. I think their meter is cracked.

Do they even make PBR anymore? :confused3 Seriously?

Yes, indeed...PBR is still being made. It was made really popular a few years ago with NYC's lower east side hipsters.
 
I'm a fairly :eek: old (ack, I hate saying that) fairly light-complected woman. I think their meter is cracked.

Do they even make PBR anymore? :confused3 Seriously?

Well, I'm a fast approaching middle aged guy, and if you'd ever seen me dance, there'd be no question of just how white I am. ;) Also, I tend to prefer beer to wine, though I'll readily admit that my beer of choice is Sam Adams, not that PBR or Bud swill. Heck...I've even been to a NASCAR race or two in my time. :teeth: Oh, and I'm also former military, so I guess in reality I'm "supposed" to be a Republican, huh? :sad2:
 
Well, I'm a fast approaching middle aged guy, and if you'd ever seen me dance, there'd be no question of just how white I am. ;) Also, I tend to prefer beer to wine, though I'll readily admit that my beer of choice is Sam Adams, not that PBR or Bud swill. Heck...I've even been to a NASCAR race or two in my time. :teeth: Oh, and I'm also former military, so I guess in reality I'm "supposed" to be a Republican, huh? :sad2:
The whole PBR thing has been a joke with 25 yo DD and me for years. She thinks it's pretty funny her parents love PBR (Rodeo...not the beer). I don't have beer often, but when I do I agree Sam Adams is good. A real beer treat, though, for me is Paulaner Pils.
 
The whole PBR thing has been a joke with 25 yo DD and me for years. She thinks it's pretty funny her parents love PBR (Rodeo...not the beer). I don't have beer often, but when I do I agree Sam Adams is good. A real beer treat, though, for me is Paulaner Pils.

Love me some Sam Adams! :thumbsup2 I can't wait for their summer ale so I can enjoy a Sox game and drink some.
 
The whole PBR thing has been a joke with 25 yo DD and me for years. She thinks it's pretty funny her parents love PBR (Rodeo...not the beer). I don't have beer often, but when I do I agree Sam Adams is good. A real beer treat, though, for me is Paulaner Pils.

I also really like Yuengling, but we can't get it in West Virginia (the alcohol content is too high :rolleyes: ). I've got a buddy that comes down from PA for all the WVU football games, and he knows that if he doesn't bring some Yuengling with him, he's not welcome at my tailgate. :teeth:

I like trying different beers...A couple years ago, we happened to be at Epcot for the Food and Wine festival, and Sam Adams had a FREE tasting in the American pavilion. :cool1: I was one very happy camper that particular day. :thumbsup2
 
Pabst Blue Ribbon? :confused3
Or, at our house...Pro Bull Riding. It's kind of funny, people who know us in real life think I tolerate his love of rodeo....but the truth? I'm probably the expert. He thinks it's amusing, too. :rotfl:
 
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