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[Fitswimmer]

It's time for all of us to be phone banking for Obama IMHO... every vote will count and every call will count...

How do you do this phone banking thing?

 

[chris1gill]

How do you do this phone banking thing?

Go to the BarackObama website & click on Make Calls on the right hand side of the page.... you'll get all the directions and information you need... if you have any other questions, feel free to PM me, also, if you haven't joined your states Barack Obama listserv you might want to, that's on the website as well....

Here's the exact link to phonebank.... looks like right now they want us to call people who have signed up to volunteer for the campaign to see if they can help register new voters by going to PA... I know our local group is organizing weekend trips to go down since voter registration in PA is open until March 24th.
http://My.BarackObama.com/call

 

[wvrevy]

Two things this morning, both courtesy of Keith Olbermann's show last night.

First, the Nobel Peace Prize winner that actually was responsible for brokering peace in Northern Ireland calls Hillary's claim to have helped in that process, "A wee bit silly."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/08/wuspols108.xml

Secondly, you know that trip to Kosovo that she said she took because it was "too dangerous to send the president"? She claimed it as part of her experience. Wanna know what she did while she was there?

She was putting on a USO show with Sinbad and Sheryl Crow...and Chelsea went with her as well. Keith had a picture of them all on the stage together that I was gonna post, but now I can't seem to find it on the interweb (the tubes must be clogging up). If anyone sees it out there somewhere, I'd appreciate it if you posted it here. That way, everyone can see the type of "experience" Hillary is claiming.

 

[wvrevy]

Are you freaking kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...on-backer.html

Clinton-backer Ferraro: Obama Where He Is Because He's Black
March 11, 2008 7:30 AM

Clinton campaign finance committee member, former vice presidential candidate, and former Rep. Geraldine Ferraro, D-NY, told the Daily Breeze of Torrance, Ca., that, "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Of Clinton, Ferraro said that the press "has been uniquely hard on her. It's been a very sexist media. Some just don't like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign."

"I was reading an article that said young Republicans are out there campaigning for Obama because they believe he's going to be able to put an end to partisanship. Dear God! Anyone that has worked in the Congress knows that for over 200 years this country has had partisanship - that's the way our country is."

 

[Fitswimmer]

Are you freaking kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...on-backer.html

Clinton-backer Ferraro: Obama Where He Is Because He's Black
March 11, 2008 7:30 AM

Clinton campaign finance committee member, former vice presidential candidate, and former Rep. Geraldine Ferraro, D-NY, told the Daily Breeze of Torrance, Ca., that, "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Of Clinton, Ferraro said that the press "has been uniquely hard on her. It's been a very sexist media. Some just don't like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign."

"I was reading an article that said young Republicans are out there campaigning for Obama because they believe he's going to be able to put an end to partisanship. Dear God! Anyone that has worked in the Congress knows that for over 200 years this country has had partisanship - that's the way our country is."

Has the woman gone SENILE????

 

[chris1gill]

Are you freaking kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...on-backer.html

Clinton-backer Ferraro: Obama Where He Is Because He's Black
March 11, 2008 7:30 AM

Clinton campaign finance committee member, former vice presidential candidate, and former Rep. Geraldine Ferraro, D-NY, told the Daily Breeze of Torrance, Ca., that, "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Of Clinton, Ferraro said that the press "has been uniquely hard on her. It's been a very sexist media. Some just don't like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign."

"I was reading an article that said young Republicans are out there campaigning for Obama because they believe he's going to be able to put an end to partisanship. Dear God! Anyone that has worked in the Congress knows that for over 200 years this country has had partisanship - that's the way our country is."

Yup, that's what she said Isn't she a paid staffer? I'm just curious how she can say this and still have a job, just like what Wolfson said last week when Obama asked for tax and First Lady documents to be released, how does he have a job? It wasn't a personal attack according to them, yup, you go with that, but to the rest of us, sounds like a personal attack.

 

[va32h]

Has the woman gone SENILE????

I heard Ferraro on NPR last week complaining about everything Obama and arguing for the inclusion of at least the Florida delegates, although she had to admit that the whole "no other name on the ballot" thing was sort of a problem for Michigan.

She was getting really animated. I hesitate to use words like "hysterical" (because women are so often tarred with that brush when they are arguing a position with vigor). And yet "hysterical" does describe her tone best.

 

[Laura]

Clinton campaign finance committee member, former vice presidential candidate, and former Rep. Geraldine Ferraro, D-NY, told the Daily Breeze of Torrance, Ca., that, "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Oh puh-leeze. I don't have white guilt, and I would love to have a woman for President someday. That has nothing to do with my vote. I just like Barack better, what's wrong with that?

Women who think everyone else is bringing them down because they're women drive me batty. We women need to stop holding ourselves back, and stop blaming everyone else. Now that Hillary's nomination is suddenly not so "inevitable" her campaign wants to blame it on misogyny. I'm not buying it; such a lame excuse. Sometimes you just come up against someone who's better.

 

[wvrevy]

Oh puh-leeze. I don't have white guilt, and I would love to have a woman for President someday. That has nothing to do with my vote. I just like Barack better, what's wrong with that?

Women who think everyone else is bringing them down because they're women drive me batty. We women need to stop holding ourselves back, and stop blaming everyone else. Now that Hillary's nomination is suddenly not so "inevitable" her campaign wants to blame it on misogyny. I'm not buying it; such a lame excuse. Sometimes you just come up against someone who's better.

Believe me, I agree wholeheartedly with everything you just posted. As the father of a daughter that means the whole world to me, I'm honestly offended when idiots accuse me of misogynist behavior for not supporting Hillary. I would dearly love for my rugrat to have a female role model to look up to as President of the United States. Unfortunately, the only female in the running this time is acting like my 7 year old now, rather than as I want my 7 year old to act when she grows up.

Hillary needs to come out VERY strongly stating that Ferraro's comments are out of line and not consistent with Hillary's beliefs. If she doesn't she'll just be reconfirming what I've been saying about her for weeks.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Oh puh-leeze. I don't have white guilt, and I would love to have a woman for President someday. That has nothing to do with my vote. I just like Barack better, what's wrong with that?

Women who think everyone else is bringing them down because they're women drive me batty. We women need to stop holding ourselves back, and stop blaming everyone else. Now that Hillary's nomination is suddenly not so "inevitable" her campaign wants to blame it on misogyny. I'm not buying it; such a lame excuse. Sometimes you just come up against someone who's better.

Laura, I don't know how old you are but I have to tell you women 'of a certain age' very easily remember lots of times when women were 'brought down because they were women'. That's why Senator Clinton solidly gets the votes of a particular age group. I can say that because I am of that age group and up to a point understand how they feel and the way they think. I, however, think we have to get past it and choose the best candidate who happens to be Barack Obama. My mother is 83 and she supports Senator Obama enthusiastically as well. But she still remembers.

 

[va32h]

Laura, I don't know how old you are but I have to tell you women 'of a certain age' very easily remember lots of times when women were 'brought down because they were women'. That's why Senator Clinton solidly gets the votes of a particular age group. I can say that because I am of that age group and up to a point understand how they feel and the way they think. I, however, think we have to get past it and choose the best candidate who happens to be Barack Obama. My mother is 83 and she supports Senator Obama enthusiastically as well. But she still remembers.

I'm not Laura, but I am 37 which is probably young enough not to remember the days when it was perfectly legal to pay a woman less because "she doesn't have a family to support" etc.

Yet I'd like to think I understand. My mother was of that generation and I watched her struggle. I read Susan Faludi and the other books in that genre. When I was a teenager one of my favorite singers was Pat Benatar and I distinctly remember an interview with her discussing how hard it was to get radio play because the stations would only play one female artist at a time and all the sleazy propositions she received from DJ's and record execs...

But on the other hand, I feel that the feminist movement (and I proudly call myself a feminist) is really muddying things up for themselves by trying to portray women as "strong" and "victims" at the same time.

Give us equal pay for equal work, but also enact sexual harassment polices to protect our delicate sensibilities from an off-color joke. Let us wear whatever we want, but protect us from wolf-whistles because a man happened to notice what we have purposely put on display.

Or in the case of the Clinton campaign: Hillary is as strong a candidate as any man, but asking her tough questions is just picking on her because she's a woman.

This is what I see Ferraro saying, not you, just to clarify.

 

[Laura]

Laura, I don't know how old you are but I have to tell you women 'of a certain age' very easily remember lots of times when women were 'brought down because they were women'. That's why Senator Clinton solidly gets the votes of a particular age group. I can say that because I am of that age group and up to a point understand how they feel and the way they think. I, however, think we have to get past it and choose the best candidate who happens to be Barack Obama. My mother is 83 and she supports Senator Obama enthusiastically as well. But she still remembers.

I do understand perfectly well why, I just think we need to collectively get over it. There's plenty of misogyny among my own age group (early thirties), but if we women start with a defeatist attitude, how can we get anywhere?

Take, for example, working mothers. I remember not too long ago there was a case where a British au pair was accused of murdering a baby in her care. Both parents, if I recall correctly, were doctors. But it was the mother who was criticized for not staying home with the kid, not the father. It's that line of thinking that many women subscribe to, unfortunately. This little voice inside them that tells them what they should be doing, and that their lives are limited. I went to college with some girls who were there to get their MRS degrees, not find a career path. It's sad, and it's the kind of crap I don't want to perpetuate.

 

[lilyv]

I do understand perfectly well why, I just think we need to collectively get over it. There's plenty of misogyny among my own age group (early thirties), but if we women start with a defeatist attitude, how can we get anywhere?

Take, for example, working mothers. I remember not too long ago there was a case where a British au pair was accused of murdering a baby in her care. Both parents, if I recall correctly, were doctors. But it was the mother who was criticized for not staying home with the kid, not the father. It's that line of thinking that many women subscribe to, unfortunately. This little voice inside them that tells them what they should be doing, and that their lives are limited. I went to college with some girls who were there to get their MRS degrees, not find a career path. It's sad, and it's the kind of crap I don't want to perpetuate.

Victimhood, Ferraro's thinly veiled racism...it is time for us to grow up and move on. I can say that...I'm in my late 40's. "You go gurl" is a poor way to choose a President.
I look at how both campaigns have been managed from day one and I easily conclude that Obama is a far better manager. He understands finances, he's a good listener, as well as an excellent critical thinker. He's taken considerable time while writing his books to really mull over America, and the direction it needs to be headed in 2008.
Hillary and Bill have had their turn in the White House. I appreciate their service, but I truly don't think the country is well served by going backwards.

 

[Fitswimmer]

PSA for everyone on this thread: Go get yourselves a copy of Rolling Stone!!

I got mine in the mail yesterday and it contains a very well written endorsement of Senator Obama for President.

There's also a good article by Matt Taibbi on Hillary. He's written some great pieces throughout the primary season.

 

[wvrevy]

PSA for everyone on this thread: Go get yourselves a copy of Rolling Stone!!

I got mine in the mail yesterday and it contains a very well written endorsement of Senator Obama for President.

There's also a good article by Matt Taibbi on Hillary. He's written some great pieces throughout the primary season.

Here's the article on Barack, in case anyone missed it:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/19106551/a_new_hope

A New Hope

The tides of history are rising higher and faster these days. Read them right and ride them, or be crushed. And then along comes Barack Obama, with the kinds of gifts that appear in politics but once every few generations. There is a sense of dignity, even majesty, about him, and underneath that ease lies a resolute discipline. It's not just that he is eloquent — with that ability to speak both to you and to speak for you — it's that he has a quality of thinking and intellectual and emotional honesty that is extraordinary.

ETA: Oops...forgot the other link to the broader story:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/19106326

The Machinery of Hope

It's Presidents day, two weeks before the Texas primary, and Adam Ukman has come to the small city of San Marcos to train precinct captains for Barack Obama. A soft-spoken native of Houston, Ukman has served on the campaign's front lines in Iowa and Utah, organizing grass-roots supporters to secure decisive victories in both states. This evening, more than eighty residents of San Marcos have crammed into a yellow clapboard recreation center on a street dotted with shacks that date from the Jim Crow era. "Our job is not to run in here to tell you how it's going to be," Ukman tells them. "This is your campaign. Not our campaign."

 

[ckay87]

PSA for everyone on this thread: Go get yourselves a copy of Rolling Stone!!

I got mine in the mail yesterday and it contains a very well written endorsement of Senator Obama for President.

There's also a good article by Matt Taibbi on Hillary. He's written some great pieces throughout the primary season.

Ah, you beat me to it. I haven't read the article yet, but breezing through the pages, it seems that they didn't just give him an endorsement, but a flipping sainthood! DS and I were looking at the pretty picture on the cover and he said "are those the lights of heaven shining down on him?"

 

[wvrevy]

Ah, you beat me to it. I haven't read the article yet, but breezing through the pages, it seems that they didn't just give him an endorsement, but a flipping sainthood! DS and I were looking at the pretty picture on the cover and he said "are those the lights of heaven shining down on him?"

 

[Fitswimmer]

Ah, you beat me to it. I haven't read the article yet, but breezing through the pages, it seems that they didn't just give him an endorsement, but a flipping sainthood! DS and I were looking at the pretty picture on the cover and he said "are those the lights of heaven shining down on him?"

Yeah, it does tend to play into the hands of those who condemn his supporters for canonizing the guy-but the endorsement is still good.

I really like Matt Taibbi's article too- "Hillary's Last Stand"

 

[ckay87]

Yea, wow, he is glowing isn't he???

 

[wvrevy]

Yea, wow, he is glowing isn't he???

He looks like a new character on "Heroes".