Nothing to See Here...

[kaoden39]

Bret is actually much more normal, grounded and down to earth (translation: less screwed up and crazy) than other musicians I have known - even more normal than some guys in his own band. I know guys who are NOT famous at all, and they try to live like they are rock stars or like they are 20-year-old frat boys when they are in their 40's, continually getting involved with the wrong girls for the wrong reasons, who only end up causing them endless trouble and drama. They never learn. I think Bret knows when to rein himself in if he is getting too crazy - which is something other musicians cannot always do - but he is still trying to live the rock star life with all the women and some drinking (even in moderation, it is dangerous when you have the kind of diabetes he has), etc. Still, he was involved in a long relationship with the mother of his kids so I think it is possible for him. But I have a feeling that no relationship will every fully 'work' as long as he is still actively out there on the road all the time. I don't think it can happen. I think he would have to stay home for a few years to develop any kind of healthy relationship with a 'normal' person....who is probably not going to be a stripper or a nude model or a porn star, etc.

The blonde from the first season (the winner) was Jes, who had pink in her hair as well. Is she the one you are referring to? I think once she realized what she got herself into, she wanted OUT!

In any case, I am excited that some of my photos will be in Bret's upcoming book, and I can't wait to see which ones they use besides the one I knwo about for sure!

Actually I have no doubt he is a some what less screwed up person than some. Listening to him talk I am amazed at his choices in woman, but I still doubt that he is low in the self confidence department. Well otherwise he wouldn't be where he is. I mean Heather I think it is, she was one of the women he had on this year to help him weed through them. She had his name tattooed on her neck the first season. Her personality suits him I think, and I also think she could help keep him grounded.

 

[Sherry E]

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[kaoden39]

Ah yes, Heather...and she was the one who he said he knew he could be 'friends,' but they would just be like 'party friends,' and nothing serious. So I took that to mean he was trying to get away from anyone who works in any facet of the sex industry at all, and yet strippers and porn stars and nude models and wanna-be madams keep ending up on the show. Maybe that is why Bret opted to NOT do a Rock of Love 4 - he may have just been under contract to do three of them and then couldn't bear to sign a new contract for the next installment. It is not like he needs the help in finding love or lust or dinner companions, so basically I am sure he was offered a nice paycheck, and this was a way to keep himself in the public eye to build interest in the book.

I am tempted to ask Janna, the one I have been dealing with about my pictures for Bret's autobiography, what the REAL scoop on Rock of Love is. Like I would want to know if he was MADE to choose anyone in particular by the producers of the show or if he really was interested in any of these girls in a real way. Some of them just seemed unbearable to me!

I hate to be catty, well no I don't. But I thought they all were what I call a car wreck. And I cannot help but believe that it is that way on purpose. It helps to sell Bret to the teenage boys. The hotter the woman the biiger the group of adolecent boys watching. You know what I mean? I would be curious to know the answer to that question myself. I was amazed that he actually did the shows to begin with. I mean honestly the day that he needs help finding a woman is gonna a cold day in a hot place.

 

[Sherry E]

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[kaoden39]

Yes, most of the girls were a train wreck. I think VH1 wanted to capitalize on the success they had with Flavor of Love (which was also, coincidentally, three seasons) and fill the gap that was left by the show when it went off the air, and Rock of Love turned out to be a huge success. They either have to have someone who is ALSO a train wreck as the star of the show (like Flavor Flav) or they need someone who is likeable and charming to be able to carry the show (like Bret is). I have heard rumors that they will try to do another version of Rock of Love with a different rock star, but again, it would have to be someone who could carry an entire show without getting on everyone's nerves, or someone who is just SO crazy and wild that you want to tune in for every second. I don't think they could pay Tommy Lee enough to do it, so they would have to get someone who was a little lower-level of a rock star than Tommy Lee, but who women would still be fighting over!

I will try asking Janna - after the Rock of Love reunion airs this weekend and I see what heppens - if she is willing to divvy up any info on whether any of those women appealed to Bret at all, in any way. Sometimes she is kind of guarded and protective, and gives the standard 'PR replies' to things, but she also knows that I used to work for Bret and Poison and know some of what goes on behind the scenes and what is staged for the public, so she may be more willing to divulge info. I haven't been to a Poison show since 1993, so it is clearly not that I am some uber-fan stalking Bret around the U.S., and I have never asked her for any free tickets or backstage passes - all the things I used to get back in the day - because I have no interest in them as a band or being involved in that whole scene again!

It's funny you should mention Tommy Lee because I was thinking how funny the show would be with him on it. Talk about a train wreck in so many ways. But you know I watched the show he had on Planet Green with Ludacris. It was a lot of fun to watch. I have a nephew who is gonna be 29 in June and he just loves Bret and Tommy Lee. I think all adolecent or immature male idolize them. Maybe it is time the did a "love" type show for a gay person. That might be entertaining. As far as Rock of Love even my teenage girls watched it just to see the train wrecks and what they would do next. So who knows it may be worth them doing it again. I saw a commercial last night about Bret appearing at the casino where my niece works. It is the second time in less than a year he has appeared there, maybe he likes the place.

 

[Sherry E]

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[Sherry E]

Just in case anyone is interested, I posted a small sampling of my Catalina Island/Avalon pictures over in KCMike's Catalina thread. here is the link to the page:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2152282

The old Wolfgang Puck Avalon Cove restaurant in DCA was based on Catalina, but I only saw photographs of the interior. It seemed like it was mainly echoing the mermaid theme that can be found over at the Catalina Island movie theatre...so it was a natural progression to turn it into Ariel's, I suppose! I know that somewhere near the entrance to DCA now, there is a picture of the Catalina Casino in one of the murals that is going to be torn down during the remodeling.

 

[prettyprincessbelle]

Sherry, your TR needs a bumpity bump!

How are you?!

 

[shishigirl]

Hey Sherry, I loved reading your trip report! We were there the next week after you and it is fun to see all the pics you took around the same time. Sounds like you had a great time! I love the night pic at paradise pier over the water with the pumpkin in the background. How fun! Thanks for sharing!

 

[Sherry E]

Sherry, your TR needs a bumpity bump!

How are you?!

Thanks for bumping me, Courtney! It seems like I hadn't been on DIS in a while - or if I had, I guess I wasn't over in the Trip Reports section. Had my TR sunk to the murky depths of the second page?? Oh no! I should have been bumping Jasmine's TR while she was away - because it just faded into the mist - but I figured there was no point in doing that because she wasn't around to reply to anyone who may post on it at that point. Otherwise, I will make sure to always bump you guys up as well if I notice the TR's falling dangerously low on the page or wandering onto another page! We can't let that happen! ACtually, I have a hunch that if you just changed the name of your TR to simply 'Jonas Brothers' and nothing else, your Views would suddenly spike to 100,000 or something wild! Now I have to get caught up on your TR and Jasmine's, as well as the other DIS TR's I have been following.

I am okay, to answer your question. I have been busy with these crazy freelance clients and also some personal drama this week (caused by a man, of course), so have been more scarce than usual, but I will be getting caught up over the weekend!

Hey Sherry, I loved reading your trip report! We were there the next week after you and it is fun to see all the pics you took around the same time. Sounds like you had a great time! I love the night pic at paradise pier over the water with the pumpkin in the background. How fun! Thanks for sharing!

shishigirl, thanks for coming aboard! You said you were there a week after we were at DLR - do you mean in October or December (I started the TR with an October trip but then continued on with the December trip TR portion, etc.). I assume you mean October? Yes, we had fun - DLR is always a fun time - but there are times where things go more smoothly than other times. And the poopy water we had in October was kind of weird, but thankfully, that seems to have been a fluke. Anyway, stay tuned because I will keep this thread as the main TR thread for me (until it reaches its page limit) as I go on the next DLR trips - whenever those happen!

 

[shishigirl]

Sherry, After I posted about your october trip, I saw in the title thread that it was a double trip report and with past pics and went on to read it all tonight!! I kept saying just one more page and then I had to keep reading! Thanks for sharing your trips, pics (love your black and whites from christmas) and parts of your life with us. It was so great to see how much you enjoy life and how many great friendships you have made and kept through the years! I loved looking at all your disney pictures(I enjoyed the fashion as much as the disney history)! How fun to have all those experiences at disneyland. I also love the pictures of Bret Michaels. Im gonna have to check out this autobiography when it is published to see your photos. Im glad they are going to credit you for them. You seriously have such an interesting life!! Thanks for sharing! I hope you are able to get back to disney for your birthday!!! I can't wait to read more from you!

 

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[PIGLET11]

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[mariezp]

Hey Sherry! Good to see you back at it again! Haven't bumped into you lately since we have both been busy. I'm trying to make it a point to check in every now and then over on this side of the tracks.

I hope you get to pull off the trip for your birthday. Take plenty of pictures and say hello to DL for some of us who can't be there!

 

[prettyprincessbelle]

I wan't to go to your house and just go through your photo albums and boxes, I swear you must have a ton!

That armor guy is still there. He's kind of scary looking, I think.

You're awesome, Sherry.

 

[AmericanItGirl]

It's a very sleazy kind of world, that whole rock band thing. See, when bands are struggling in L.A., even if they are lucky enough to play shows every weekend (or "showcase," as it's called), or even if they have a following, they never really make any money. The clubs in which they play don't pay much money at all (maybe $600 for one gig), and they have to split it among the band members and then they never have enough for food or necessities, etc. Plus, they need to buy wardrobe pieces and things for their stage sets, or new equipment, etc. It wasn't just this way with Poison, but with ALL the bands around in the old Sunset Strip days, and probably even with famous bands. So this is a BIG part of the reason why bands always have tons of girls (of all shapes and sizes) around - other than the 'obvious' reasons - the girls end up footing the bill for everything. They buy the guys food, they pay for rent, they rent movies, they take them out to dinner and concerts, they buy them clothes, they flat out just hand them cash, on and on. And if the guys just happen to like the girls, it's a bonus, but many of them just use the women around because they NEED so much stuff, and then they 'pay the women back' in whatever way they can (which doesn't involve money!). And the road crew guys and hangers-on of the band then begin to think that they can get the same treatment from the women and treat them disrespectfully. So it's basically like glorified prostitution in a way, when you think about it. The band guys (and friends and hangers on, etc.) kind of sell themselves to get what they need. And the girls love guys in bands (or whoever can get them TO the guys in bands), so they will provide what they need (pizzas, movies, concerts, etc.) to get to them.

Which is why I never dated any guys who were/are in bands, and only helped them with advertising (street team, word-of-mouth, etc.) unless I owed them (like I bought a drink for a singer in a band because he was sweet enough to get me on the list for a performance at a club without having ever met me before...the guy really is 100% a sweetheart). Still the same now in LA as it was back then (pisses my friend off to no end because she's a bass player in LA and it's difficult for her to get together a band where the guys aren't sleazebags).

Hey, long time reader, first time poster in this thread (well actually I read the original tr when it was first posted and then decided to read the rest today). Love the 80's pictures! If they ever got Dave Navarro to sign up for a dating show, I would so try to get on that show (the man is crazy attractive).

 

[Sherry E]

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[AmericanItGirl]

AmericanItGirl, welcome!! I don't think I have seen you over on this side of the boards yet. I am used to only seeing you over in the main DL forum! You mean to tell me you have been out there all along - back when this TR had no pictures at all, through the poopy water fiasco, and then through all the decades of DLR pictures that I added in and all the Bret Michaels/Poison pictures - and you are just now saying hello?? I always wonder who is out there, silently following along. In a way, I wondered if there was a separate group of TR readers who only come to this side of town, or if it was all the same folks who populate the main forum who come here too, and I have actually noticed some of both. I see some names of people who never seem to post on the main forum and only pop up in Trip Reports, but there is also a good segment of the regular DIS-ers who appear here as well.

I read trip reports occasionally, but I think this is the second or the third TR I've ever posted on. I don't tend to post because I have nothing to contribute to the conversation.

I think Dave Navarro is a very interesting person. He has now delved into the 'adult' side of things as well (so far just directing, but who knows what will happen down the road), and I found that fascinating because I think he is the only famous musician to ever do that. But it is a lucrative business and he knows where the money is, so more power to him! I did hear his name tossed around as a possible replacement for Bret on Rock of Love if Bret refuses to come back, but I don't know if Dave would accept the job. I somehow see him turning it down.

He's one of those people that's just sex-on-legs. I don't see him going in front of the camera. He's too smart for that, which is also why he probably won't do Rock of Love, much to my personal dismay (wouldn't want to date him, but if he were on the show I could have fun with no risk of attachment at all).

 

[Sherry E]

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[kaoden39]

I kept holding off on deciding where we were going to stay hoping that there would be a great deal in December. And I got to thinking that I had better go ahead and make a reservation now and then I would know that we have a reservation, so if there is no great deal we still have a room.