Non-Partisan Thoughts About Vice-President Cheney

[bsnyder]

Bummer. This thread has lost all its humor.

Or this - which I posted on another thread earlier in the week, but am doing so again because it had me

 

[Planogirl]

Just trying to help you out. Please, continue on if you see fit.

Sorry, no statue of limitations on murder. You don't have to be from the left or the right to see that he has never answered for his actions.

The VP's incident was news, absolutely. For about two minutes, with another two minutes when the victim left the hospital. White house press corp has made it much more as payback for shutting them out of the initial reporting.

I would love to be able to be an isolationist. Let's get out of every foreign country, with all humanitarian and military aid, including the middle east. The money and resources can be much better spent here in the US.

It's just not possible however. It's the price we pay for being the world power that we are.

Murder?!!! Now who's stirring the pot? Leaving the scene of an accident is wrong of course but no more murderous than someone out hunting mistaking a lawyer for a quail. That's just plain ridiculous.

As for what Clinton, Kennedy and Dean have to do with this, still nothing in spite of what nonsense was posted earlier. It's just the Rights favorite hobby, when the questioning gets tough change the subject.

 

[nwdisgal]

Does this help:

Need to add, "Well, Dick, it depends on whether or not the quail is wearing a blue dress."

 

[richiebaseball]

I can't for the life of me understand what Chappaquiddick, Bill Clinton, or Howard Dean have to do with VP Cheney shooting someone in the face, but the bottom line is, if the old guy is ok with Dick Cheney shooting him in the face, then so am I.

Since I brought up Howard Dean, I'll gladly explain for you. See, someone made one of those moronic remarks about Dick Cheney and his deferments. I mentioned Howard Dean because he too received deferments, both student and medical. I figured if Cheney's deferments bothered them that much then surely Dean's bothered them as well.

Hope that clears it up for you.

Galahad and Bet Those are great!

 

[bsnyder]

Not sure what context Chappaquidick was originally brought up on here, but I know David Ignatius, a Washington Post columnist, in an opinion piece this week tried to compare the Cheney accident to Chappaquidick. It's a lousy analogy, but pretty indicative of the media over-reach on this story.

 

[Galahad]

when the questioning gets tough change the subject.

A strong case could be made that the entire Cheney "story" is a successful attempt to "change the subject".

 

[Galahad]

I figured if Cheney's deferments bothered them that much then surely Dean's bothered them as well.

FWIW, I assume their response to this would be that the difference is that Dr. Dean hasn't sent anyone to war.

 

[eclectics]

 

[LakeAriel]

Remind us again, how many deferments did Howard Dean receive?

OMG stick to the facts Dean is neither pres or VP neither is Kennedy, Clinton or Kerry!

 

[richiebaseball]

OMG stick to the facts Dean is neither pres or VP neither is Kennedy, Clinton or Kerry!

OMG the fact is Howard Dean is the chariman of the Democratic Party, a former and possible future candidate for President!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you know what chairman means?

 

[nwdisgal]

No, Dean isn't a Democrat - he's from Vermont. My family from there claims that Vermont is a political party within itself.

 

[LakeAriel]

possible future

OMG do you know the difference between these two words and CURRENT VP?

 

[TCPluto]

Murder?!!! Now who's stirring the pot? Leaving the scene of an accident is wrong of course but no more murderous than someone out hunting mistaking a lawyer for a quail. That's just plain ridiculous.

As for what Clinton, Kennedy and Dean have to do with this, still nothing in spite of what nonsense was posted earlier. It's just the Rights favorite hobby, when the questioning gets tough change the subject.

http://www.ytedk.com/chappindex.htm

Read the link.

Divers surmise that she was alive for several hours after the car went off the bridge; believe she suffocated, not drowned. His failure to act after the accident caused her death, which equals murder.

Certainly not 1st degree (premeditated, malice aforethought), but every state has many degrees of murder. At least in this case, negligent operation of a motor vehicle causing death (felony), failure to report an accident causing death (felony); failure to render aid (at least high court misdemeanor), etc.

A variety of murder charges fit this crime. Yes, it it a crime gone unpunsihed.

Please do yourself a favor and read the link.

This link too, it will put your right wing conspiracy cover up theory on the Cheney hunting accident to bed:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0216061cheney1.html

 

[palmtreegirl]

Or this - which I posted on another thread earlier in the week, but am doing so again because it had me

 

[DawnCt1]

The war in Iraq helped destablize oil prices and profit people with oil interests.

Iran is building nuclear weapons - what is our administration doing about that? What about the Saudis who had their hands in 9/11. I agree with Donald Trump who said, "What would Saudi Arabia be if we pulled our oil interests out of there." In 24/7 they'd be a big pile of sand. The Iraqis are the least of our problems.

Donald Trump might have been right 20 years ago, he is not right today. If we pulled out of Saudi Arabia, China would have both feet in the door. India, and China in particular need oil as it is the lubricant that greases their economies too. Part of our problem is our refusal to find and recover our own oil. We have oil in Alaska that seems to be "on sacred ground". Even if it provided 10 % of our needs, it would at least be 10% that we wouldn't be buying from a very unstable part of the world. What would you like the US to do about Iran? They have one of the largest standing armies in the world. Are you ready to go to war with them or are you willing to attempt diplomatic/sanction means? All Iran needs to do is to sink a large ship in th Straits of Hormuz and we will be involved. That is an obligation that we have sworn to uphold through the years.

 

[DawnCt1]

Murder?!!! Now who's stirring the pot? Leaving the scene of an accident is wrong of course but no more murderous than someone out hunting mistaking a lawyer for a quail. That's just plain ridiculous.

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The DUI was responsible for the "blond in the pond". Maybe it wouldn't have happened if Teddy wasn't drunk. It wasn't just leaving the scene of an accident. It was causing the accident and failure to obtain help that may have saved her life. Negligent homocide perhaps?

 

[nwdisgal]

China gets their oil from Iran, too.

I don't like sanctions, it punishes people, not nations. Diplomatic would be the best solution - but is anybody willing to sit down and talk? Probably not.

 

[bsnyder]

China gets their oil from Iran, too.

I don't like sanctions, it punishes people, not nations. Diplomatic would be the best solution - but is anybody willing to sit down and talk? Probably not.

Yeah, right. If only we would just sit down with the Iranians and say pretty please. I'm sure that would do the trick!

 

[richiebaseball]

possible future

OMG do you know the difference between these two words and CURRENT VP?

Yes, I do. And the fact still remains that Howard Dean is the current Chairman of the Democratic National Party. The head honcho, the top dog, the big cheese, the big enchilada, the big number one, the big kahuna, el capitan.

Take a look at the Democrats website and take a look at the leaders. Why, you have Sen. Charles Schumer, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Sen. Harry Reid. And who is listed at the top? Why, it's none other than Gov. Howard Dean.

And the only reason Howard Dean was mentioned was in response to the idiotic reference to Cheney and deferments. OMG, like, what do deferments have to do with Cheney and a hunting accident.

 

[eclectics]

And the only reason Howard Dean was mentioned was in response to the idiotic reference to Cheney and deferments. OMG, like, what do deferments have to do with Cheney and a hunting accident.

Absolutely nothing. I think this thread has outlived it's original intent. Thanks again for the laughs MossMan!