No waitlisting with Developer Points?

[mjf]

Hi,

We just finalized our 160 point purchase at SSR and we took the double developer points incentive. We used our developer points to book a 1BR for 8 days around Christmas this year. Now... Ideally, we'd like to add one more day on to the end so I called Member Services to ask to be waitlisted for one extra day either at SSR or some other resort. The response was something along the lines of "You can't waitlist with developer points".

Has anyone heard of this before?

Thanks.

 

[LIFERBABE]

I was told the same thing when I was trying to use my AKV DPoints.

Im sorry, but those things are a PITA!! You may find a CM that will help you, but the problem is, if your DPoints were placed in a subaccount, like mine were, your waitlist will automatically draw from your current points, or worse, borrow from next year and then you will have to call MS and try to get them to use your Dpoints, which is a manual transaction. Matter of Fact, all Dpoint usage is a manual transaction. This is probably why they are not allowing them to be used with the waitlist, because the waitlist is automatic.

There is so much confusion with these points, you may try the call back and speak to someone else, or call your guide and let them know difficulty you are having with these points.

 

[Claire L]

I couldn't use my DDP for waitlist so borrowed from next year. This was not a problem as I will use up all of the remaining DDP next May anyway

Claire

 

[Steamboat Girlie]

I was told the same thing when I was trying to use my AKV DPoints.

Im sorry, but those things are a PITA!! You may find a CM that will help you, but the problem is, if your DPoints were placed in a subaccount, like mine were, your waitlist will automatically draw from your current points, or worse, borrow from next year and then you will have to call MS and try to get them to use your Dpoints, which is a manual transaction. Matter of Fact, all Dpoint usage is a manual transaction. This is probably why they are not allowing them to be used with the waitlist, because the waitlist is automatic.

There is so much confusion with these points, you may try the call back and speak to someone else, or call your guide and let them know difficulty you are having with these points.

I would have to agree with on the part about the ddp points being a PITA!
These points have given me more grief and I don't even own them yet! First of all, my guide was trying to give us the impression that we could book 11 months out at our home resort (using developers points). WRONG! I learned that this is entirely not true. Then she tells us we can book at the Disney Collection at 11 months out, the jury is still out on this one. Now I am finding out that you cannot waitlist with these points!
Here is my two cents, unless you are extremely flexible about your dates and the type of accomodations you want, do not get these points. I think I am just going to do the discount instead.

 

[pyrxtc]

I did not have to waitlist for my dates but if I had any problems using them, then I would ahve taken the discount too. And, why can't you book your home resort 11 months out? I don't get that??

 

[Steamboat Girlie]

I did not have to waitlist for my dates but if I had any problems using them, then I would ahve taken the discount too. And, why can't you book your home resort 11 months out? I don't get that??

You can't use the developers points until 7 months out (regardless of where your home resort is). The way it was described to me is that the developers points are "generic points" they don't have a home resort, they basically just belong to Disney. So when you want to book a reservation with them it has to be at the 7 month window.

 

[dianeschlicht]

You can't use the developers points until 7 months out (regardless of where your home resort is). The way it was described to me is that the developers points are "generic points" they don't have a home resort, they basically just belong to Disney. So when you want to book a reservation with them it has to be at the 7 month window.

That's correct, and they are much like the traded out points that went to CRO, only these are points actually owned by DVD. I suspect it is excess points from buy backs, ROFR etc. Probably basically points that will expire at a certain time, so DVD "gave them away" rather than lose them, just as many here would rent out points they couldn't use.

 

[TyRy]

I would have to agree with on the part about the ddp points being a PITA!
These points have given me more grief and I don't even own them yet! First of all, my guide was trying to give us the impression that we could book 11 months out at our home resort (using developers points). WRONG! I learned that this is entirely not true. Then she tells us we can book at the Disney Collection at 11 months out, the jury is still out on this one. Now I am finding out that you cannot waitlist with these points!
Here is my two cents, unless you are extremely flexible about your dates and the type of accomodations you want, do not get these points. I think I am just going to do the discount instead.

That's exactly why we ended up doing the discount. At first glance the points seemed great - but we are not super flexibile about when we can travel and it was becoming stressful trying to figure out how to use them. Once we made up our minds to simply get the discount, it was a HUGE relief. And since we financed it also helped the payments

 

[KevGuy]

Can you use the developer points to deposit with II and perhaps trade out at all? I was thinking that may be the best use of them if your stuck and can't get a good ressie. Once deposited with II in their system you would have two years to find a trade.

 

[ChelleinNC]

Can you use the developer points to deposit with II and perhaps trade out at all? I was thinking that may be the best use of them if your stuck and can't get a good ressie. Once deposited with II in their system you would have two years to find a trade.

We asked this same question and haven't gotten an answer. These DDP's are gonna drive me nuts. We've also been told that they can't be waitlisted, after we were supposedly waitlisted. And this week a MS CM told me that my 7month expiration is now 12 months. I would love to believe it, but seeing as how we all seem to get multiple answers from MS depending on who you talk to..... Next week we'll be at 7 months from our spring break and I'm going to try to make a March ressie with the points that are supposed to expire in Jan. I'll let y'all know how it goes.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

that sounds like a bunch of bologna to me.

I would bet if enough people complained they would give in on that, just as they did witht the 7 to 12 month use period.

Just cant give away that many points all over the place and expect not to give the flexibility to use the points.

 

[Doctor P]

that sounds like a bunch of bologna to me.

I would bet if enough people complained they would give in on that, just as they did witht the 7 to 12 month use period.

Just cant give away that many points all over the place and expect not to give the flexibility to use the points.

But the added flexibility you are talking about comes out of other members' pockets. As a non-buyer on this promotion, I have a real problem with that.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

But the added flexibility you are talking about comes out of other members' pockets. As a non-buyer on this promotion, I have a real problem with that.

please, waitlisting comes out of other members pockets?



the points are available for use somewhere, they carry a seven month window so if someone calls at 7 months and decides to go on a waitlist and gets in front of you on that list---too bad

just like if they call before you at 7 months and book a night that you wanted-- to me its the same thing

 

[Doctor P]

please, waitlisting comes out of other members pockets?



the points are available for use somewhere, they carry a seven month window so if someone calls at 7 months and decides to go on a waitlist and gets in front of you on that list---too bad

just like if they call before you at 7 months and book a night that you wanted-- to me its the same thing

It's actually not the same thing in practice, though. You are talking about potentially a 15-20% artificial increase in demand that is normally not in the system. And, no, I don't think I am either misspeaking or miscalculating on that.

 

[zumbergc]

Yea I really think the developer points are PITA too.
I don't get why they made the developer points so hard to use.
I really think we should be able to waitlist!!

Today I got a snarpy MS person. Like how dare I change my plans or make more than one vacation out of my developer points.

 

[LIFERBABE]

Yea I really think the developer points are PITA too.
I don't get why they made the developer points so hard to use.
I really think we should be able to waitlist!!

Today I got a snarpy MS person. Like how dare I change my plans or make more than one vacation out of my developer points.

You are right about that. MS tried to make me feel bad too, but I bought more points specifically for our Family Reunion and no one explained to me all the restrictions with these points or I would have taken the 8 bucks off
By time I finished booking and rebooking and changing, Im sure they knew my name and member number #.

These points have more instructions than the AKV tapestry rules! I got shafted twice, First the AKV DDP headache/bad dream and then the AKV Tapestry of "Holy Legal Bible, Nobody's Home Batman!"

They have never been this hard to use before and the new way, is a serious downgrade!

 

[Claire L]

I have rung MS on two occassions to use DDP and both times they have been very helpful trying to fulfill my requests and suggesting ways round things, so much so that I now have a booking that I am very pleased about

Claire

 

[sjdisneywedding]

It's actually not the same thing in practice, though. You are talking about potentially a 15-20% artificial increase in demand that is normally not in the system. And, no, I don't think I am either misspeaking or miscalculating on that.

are you serious? 15-20% increased demand from developer points. I would say about 1% if that.

where may I ask are you getting that number from?

in my opinion its BS plain and simple. 7 month rule is the 7 month rule

 

[childsplay]

I guess I look at it from the perspective that Developer Points aren't "real" points, meaning they are are special one-time use points, so they probably shouldn't come with all the bells and whistles of regular points. No banking, borrowing, 11 month window or waitlist seems fair. As someone else pointed out, if you are really flexible these points can be an excellent value, but if not, then the discount might be a better way to go, you don't have to take the points.

 

[NE14DisneyWorld?]

I also was not told about all of the restrictions on the developer points until I tried to book with them. I did not know about the seven month window, so I was trying to book a room for next June, but was told no. When I explained to the CM that my guide did not mention the restriction, she just said "well, you have to remember the points are just free to you, so if you don't get to use them it really doesn't matter!" FREE, WHO IS SHE KIDDING? There is not one single point I have ever obtained that was FREE. I realize as a cost accountant I may have a different perspective, but come on...