No the Magic isn’t gone but it’s at 25%

I don't think its only just replacement, total draw and park distribution needs are at play
Alternatively just in Florida, going by openings from a different point of view since things aren't static and serially focused on one ride at a time, I wouldn't say Disney is standing still either -
Toy Story Land with SDD 2018
Galaxy's Edge and Smugglers, and RoTR 2019
Skyliners Added 2019
Riviera Resort Opened 2019
... and the bothersome pandemic too I suppose ...
50th Anniversary Overlay at 4 Parks 2021
Remy's and Paris Expansion 2021
Galactic Starcruiser 2022 (not a ride, but not trivial either)
GoTG 2022
Tron 2022? (Ride Testing in Progress)
Moana World of Water 2022?
Why would we include a DVC or specialty Star Wars resort? I'm talking about attractions in parks. That does nothing for anybody not staying there.

And the fact that you include their pathetic 50th anniversary overlay in your totals at all tells the story.
 
I don't think its only just replacement, total draw and park distribution needs are at play
Alternatively just in Florida, going by openings from a different point of view since things aren't static and serially focused on one ride at a time, I wouldn't say Disney is standing still either -
Toy Story Land with SDD 2018
Galaxy's Edge and Smugglers, and RoTR 2019
Skyliners Added 2019
Riviera Resort Opened 2019
... and the bothersome pandemic too I suppose ...
50th Anniversary Overlay at 4 Parks 2021
Remy's and Paris Expansion 2021
Galactic Starcruiser 2022 (not a ride, but not trivial either)
GoTG 2022
Tron 2022? (Ride Testing in Progress)
Moana World of Water 2022?
It's an okay list. RoTR and GoTG stand out.
 

I love Disney in an unhealthy way, but even I stopped giving them a pass. It's Covid, it's supply chain, it's staffing...:charac2:

It's getting OLD. They need new management. Someone who gives a crap about the bottom line AND the consumer.
Agreed. It still boggles my mind how, for example, we are at year 5 of Disney building Tron, a clone of a coaster that has existed in China since 2016 and yet Velocicoaster was built in 2 years. Also an entirely new theme park is being built within that span of time.
 
Eh. Maybe. Universal managed to open a first rate coaster in the middle of Covid. And they've been moving along on an entirely new park. Disney had a reputation for slow walking projects, even before Covid.

We tend to go once a year. Is that too much?

Sure the proximity is helpful. But mostly it's about having nearly as many attractions in 2 parks as WDW has in 4. And we generally don't travel between parks at WDW. We get single park tickets because we stay in the parks all day, preferring not to give up transportation time. Like you, we always get hoppers when we go to DLR becuase it's almost like one big park. But even without them, there's plenty per park to keep Genie+ working better.
Most of Universal's new rides are screen rides and a coaster doesn't have the detailed theming that WDW puts into their attractions. Once a year is not too much, but if you expect new rides every time you go it is. Disney may slow roll projects, but they don't disappoint with the end product. Let's not forget Universal's new theme park is two years behind schedule. It was originally supposed to open in 2023 and now it's 2025.
 
Covid played a big part in the recent delays.
To a point. Even Universal admitted they shouldn't have paused for as long as they did on the construction of Epic Universe.

There really is only so much you can lay blame on the pandemic. We've all talked about it so extensively but it's clear that in certain decisions they were errors made on the part of the higher ups to stop/halt construction when they could have kept going in some fashion OR they didn't resume construction when they could have.

It's not that people are ignoring covid and the pandemic and its affects like on supply chain but we've all learned over time in so many parts of our lives that covid/pandemic only accounts for so much for so long and for only some things. It stops being a reason and starts being a flimsy excuse.
 
Most of Universal's new rides are screen rides and a coaster doesn't have the detailed theming that WDW puts into their attractions. Once a year is not too much, but if you expect new rides every time you go it is. Disney may slow roll projects, but they don't disappoint with the end product. Let's not forget Universal's new theme park is two years behind schedule. It was originally supposed to open in 2023 and now it's 2025.
Not to be nitpicky but most of Disney's newest rides are screen based as well. FOP, Remy, Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway, Smuggler's Run, Guardians. Rise gets a pass since it's a good mixture of physical sets + animatronics and screens. Meanwhile Universal's three (one of them being a Secret life of Pets ride in Hollywood) newest rides have little to no usage of screens.
 
Not to be nitpicky but most of Disney's newest rides are screen based as well. FOP, Remy, Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway, Smuggler's Run, Guardians. Rise gets a pass since it's a good mixture of physical sets + animatronics and screens. Meanwhile Universal's three (one of them being a Secret life of Pets ride in Hollywood) newest rides have little to no usage of screens.
Oh no another Universal vs Disney thread... King kong, secret life of pets and fast and furious are complete garbage. So are Simpsons and minions.
 
Most of Universal's new rides are screen rides and a coaster doesn't have the detailed theming that WDW puts into their attractions.
Hagrid's and VelociCoaster are not screen based. Hagrid's is incredibly themed, In fact so is Forbidden Journey and Gringotts.

King kong, secret life of pets and fast and furious are complete garbage. So are Simpsons and minions.
Totally your opinion, people are able to be less impressed with whatever ride they want at Universal or Disney. But that's subjective thinking rather than the practical conversation that was occurring before your snipes at people.
 
I know they're two different resorts but I find it confusing how people criticize Universal for having mainly screen based attractions (a valid criticism, by the way. It's one I have too) when Disney is doing the exact same thing in their rides.
Because Universal's newest screen rides are shameful. I can forgive them for their old ones. Fast and furious and MMRR just aren't in the same league.
 
Why would we include a DVC or specialty Star Wars resort? I'm talking about attractions in parks. That does nothing for anybody not staying there.

And the fact that you include their pathetic 50th anniversary overlay in your totals at all tells the story.
Why would you omit everything going on at the same time as the one ride you chose to illustrate as an example - would be my answer. To suggest one data point while leaving out context of everything else that is layered in happening in parallel to suggest something should be done faster (or the assertion that they are unwilling to) - is quite another. After all, labor, construction materials and equipment aren't in infinite supply in a concentrated metropolitan area.

You are obviously entitled to your opinions about the effectiveness and efficacy of what has been done - its all very subjective. I don't really have an agenda to trash Disney or Universal for that matter, but to have a reasonable discussion.
 
Because Universal's newest screen rides are shameful. I can forgive them for their old ones. Fast and furious and MMRR just aren't in the same league.
I mean I agree with that as Fast and the Furious is pretty bad but Runaway Railway to me feels like something that would be right at home with Universal in terms of its usage of screens.

In comparison, Universal recently opened Secret Life of Pets in Hollywood which is probably one of the cutest dark rides I've ever seen. I don't even like these movies but I would gladly take this over Railway or Remy.
 
I know they're two different resorts but I find it confusing how people criticize Universal for having mainly screen based attractions (a valid criticism, by the way. It's one I have too) when Disney is doing the exact same thing in their rides.
Ironically that was the flip of the conversation that was just a few scant years before the pandemic. People were like "why does Universal get a pass on their rides but Disney can't" and now that Disney has started building more and more screen-based rides over the years some people end up having a hard time holding Disney to that.

As someone who suffers from motion sickness Disney new rides from FOP and on present issues to me, same stuff I have issues with over at Universal...ironically I might add given that Disney was not known for that for me in particular.
 

Why would you omit everything going on at the same time as the one ride you chose to illustrate as an example - would be my answer. To suggest one data point while leaving out context of everything else that is layered in happening in parallel to suggest something should be done faster (or the assertion that they are unwilling to) - is quite another. After all, labor, construction materials and equipment aren't in infinite supply in a concentrated metropolitan area.

You are obviously entitled to your opinions about the effectiveness and efficacy of what has been done - its all very subjective. I don't really have an agenda to trash Disney or Universal for that matter, but to have a reasonable discussion.
Since our first trip 2010, they've added Galaxy's edge(two rides) Pandora(2 rides) MMRR, slinky dog, Remi, Frozen, Mine train, Guardians, and soon-to-be Tron. I may be forgetting something. I feel like there's been a lot added over the years.
 
Ironically that was the flip of the conversation that was just a few scant years before the pandemic. People were like "why does Universal get a pass on their rides but Disney can't" and now that Disney has started building more and more screen-based rides over the years some people end up having a hard time holding Disney to that.

As someone who suffers from motion sickness Disney new rides from FOP and on present issues to me, same stuff I have issues with over at Universal...ironically I might add given that Disney was not known for that for me in particular.
Yup, I agree. I really don't understand why Disney gets a pass when they build screen focused rides but Universal gets immediate criticism when they do it. Yes, I agree that Fast and the Furious, Kong Skull Island (or whatever that ride is called) and Jimmy Fallon are terrible rides. They deserve the criticism. But when Disney makes, for example, Runaway Railway which is 98% screen based it's different? Even great rides like Flight of Passage entirely rely on screens. I'm not saying screen based rides are bad. A lot of these rides with screens are perfectly fine. I just get slightly annoyed when people criticize Universal when, if anything, Disney is copying Universal.
 
I mean I agree with that as Fast and the Furious is pretty bad but Runaway Railway to me feels like something that would be right at home with Universal in terms of its usage of screens.

In comparison, Universal recently opened Secret Life of Pets in Hollywood which is probably one of the cutest dark rides I've ever seen. I don't even like these movies but I would gladly take this over Railway or Remy.
It's all subjective. I enjoy both parks I am a universal annual passholder after all, but if I can only visit one it's Disney. I wish I was a Disney hater like the majority in this thread it sure would save me a lot of money in the future.
 












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