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The number of problems and giant assumptions here are mind boggling.

A "glorified six flags"? Your disney fanboyism is showing, zip up your fly. Have you ever been to a Six Flags? It has zero themeing. Zero. The technology at a 6 flags is limited to roller coaster, spinning ride, and kids ride. Throw in an elevated swing and maybe a superman drop tower, and there ya have it.

The idea that Universal is only for thrill seekers is incredibly misplaced. The only thrill ride at USF is Rockin Roller Coaster. That's it. The Mummy and Escape From Gringotts are pretty mild rides. No worse than Big Thunder. Over at IOA you have the Hulk, Dragon Challenge, and Doom Drop. Forbidden Journey has a somewhat high height requirement, but isn't exactly a "thrill ride" by any stretch of the definition. The height is due to the seat size and motion of the KUKA arm. Every single other ride is perfectly fine for an adventurous 5 year old (I know, because my 5 year old has done it all). I actually made a list of all the rides that she could do before I took her last time, and was surprised myself how much there was for her age.

You laud Disney for making names out of second and third tier Marvel characters? I hate to break it to you, but Universal ONLY owns the rights to rides on the eastern half of the US. They can't just go and make a marvel movie and build a ride based on it. You seem to think that Universal could have made Guardians of the Galaxy or something else to add value or redefine Marvel characters. Disney isn't "beating them at their own game". Universal can't make marvel movies and never could.

The biggest weakness at IoA is Toon Lagoon. Marvel Island, Seussland, JP, HP, and even the remnants of the Mythic area all stand strong. Over at USF things do change on a regular basis. It's called "a different business model". The irony is, the one ride that would likely cause the biggest uproar if it got pulled is E.T. One of the weakest rides there. But it is important to folks because many of them rode it as kids. As soon as people grow up and put their rose colored glasses on, everything from their past becomes an untouchable idol. Disney faces this for two prime reasons. One, they have been around so long. Two, more of their rides are designed for mass family throughput. While a 5 year old CAN ride a ton of stuff at Universal, many may choose not to. I love Disney and all, but there was a time when the rides over relied on sitting in a boat\buggy and moving slowly through a dark ride. It was safe, easy to replicate, and any age or size could ride it.

Let me wrap it up like this. If Small World was built tomorrow, what would the world's response to it be? Hint: negative. It's popular because people grew up on it, and introduce their kids to it, and then they grow up on it. For adults who ride it for the first time, there is an assumed value attached to it due to its age. In other words - it gets a free pass. Universal doesn't rely on that. They rebuild. They aren't trying to create an alter to your childhood where you can go back and ride a really dated Jaws or King Kong ride just because you did as a kid. Their busines smodel is to reinvent and keep giving families new reasons to come back
Mostly all correct. I'll nitpick with a few things here...
1)Six Flags and the parent company of Knotts, King Dominion, Ceder Fair, etc. are both making headway into themed areas and Dark rides. They're taking cues from Universal and Disney, and they're actually turning out pretty great. Of course it depends on the specific locality.
2)Rockin Roller Coaster is located at the park formerly known as Disney's MGM Studios, Disney's Hollywood Studios.
3)I'll agree that certain thrill elements may not be extremely intense, but many simulators and effects make small children uncomfortable. I'd also say that many attractions at Universal have darker tones and messaging that could frighten small children. While absolutely correct it's not all thrill rides, Universal has made good business having a larger slate of thrill rides then Disney. That's not a diss. Big Thunder is a thrill ride and perhaps my favorite ride on property. Thrill ride doesn't equal crap. There is a tendency to use thrills as an excuse not to theme. Universal hasn't been following that logic.
4)Your dark ride criticism is off the mark. Slow moving ride vehicles and boat rides make for immersive story telling. The response to Finding Nemo and Little Mermaid proves continued interest in the peaceful fun ride vehicles.

Update: Two 3s... I can count to at least two. ;)
 
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The number of problems and giant assumptions here are mind boggling.

A "glorified six flags"? Your disney fanboyism is showing, zip up your fly. Have you ever been to a Six Flags? It has zero themeing. Zero. The technology at a 6 flags is limited to roller coaster, spinning ride, and kids ride. Throw in an elevated swing and maybe a superman drop tower, and there ya have it.

You told me to "zip my fly." :scared: Nice. Your Universal is showing. In your next post, please recount your tats and piercings for us. :duck:

I've only been to "Six Flags Over Georgia," and I would absolutely equate the theming at Universal, pre Harry Potter, with that park. "Small World" is a great attraction still today, especially after its recent retouch. Don't like it, go ride Dr. Doom again.

We're going to Orlando on Saturday, and will be there for the week. I'll go to Universal one day - I don't dislike the place - but we'll be at WDW for five days and that seems about the right mix. Actually, I still enjoy going to Six Flags occasionally as well. :)
 

Very cool - I am excited for this - but nervous as to how hard it's going to be to get a seat. There doesn't look like there will be a ton of available seating for the show.
FP+ will probably look very good for this. I am also interested to see if they do dinner packages like Fantasmic and World of Color especially with new restaurants coming.
 
FP+ will probably look very good for this. I am also interested to see if they do dinner packages like Fantasmic and World of Color especially with new restaurants coming.

No doubt they will do that. The idea to keep people in Animal Kingdom into the evening.
 
Yes Disney owns Marvel but Universal owns the park rights east of the Mississippi. That means Universal can build what they want with the characters under the contract including using the new movies. Universal is currently redoing their Hulk coaster, and there are plenty of rumors for a avengers attraction coming soon.

I thought they could build what they want but with Marvel (now Disney) approval which means they are stuck revamping exisiting rides since Disney surely won't allow new ones.

If they could build whatever they wanted, we surely would have seen more by now (an Iron Man ride for example)
 
Looked like the pedestrian bridge near Hotel Plaza Blvd. will be opening soon. Workers earlier today were washing (it looked like) the brick towers, lights looked like they were installed and all the railings, fencing, etc. on the bridge itself looked to be complete.

That will really help some of the traffic there in the busy times about to hit with the holidays. I have to say, they got the new car ramps and pedestrian bridges done in a decent time frame. I'm sure they had the holiday deadline hanging over their heads.
 
I thought they could build what they want but with Marvel (now Disney) approval which means they are stuck revamping exisiting rides since Disney surely won't allow new ones.

If they could build whatever they wanted, we surely would have seen more by now (an Iron Man ride for example)
Disney does have an approval part of the contract but they can't stop them from creating attractions. They are currently revamping the Incredible Hulk ride no problem.
 
Looked like the pedestrian bridge near Hotel Plaza Blvd. will be opening soon. Workers earlier today were washing (it looked like) the brick towers, lights looked like they were installed and all the railings, fencing, etc. on the bridge itself looked to be complete.

That will really help some of the traffic there in the busy times about to hit with the holidays. I have to say, they got the new car ramps and pedestrian bridges done in a decent time frame. I'm sure they had the holiday deadline hanging over their heads.


Saw it last weekend-- how about the size and height of those steps!! Can you imagine the number of injuries there are going to be when the "late night crowd" is heading back to their rooms? I thought the old steps down from PI were bad--- this is like triple height!

Also on a side note-- spent an evening at The Hangar ---- in my opinion another hit in the new area-- and Pete-- on the upper loft area,in a partially open large crate, you can partially see--- Babylonia!
 
Saw it last weekend-- how about the size and height of those steps!! Can you imagine the number of injuries there are going to be when the "late night crowd" is heading back to their rooms? I thought the old steps down from PI were bad--- this is like triple height!

Also on a side note-- spent an evening at The Hangar ---- in my opinion another hit in the new area-- and Pete-- on the upper loft area,in a partially open large crate, you can partially see--- Babylonia!

HA! I know right?

Would like to hang out there for a bit at around midnight or so to see that works out :)

One of my favourite at PI was watching the fueled up dancers trying to get off the rotating dance floor. Spearing them selves in the chest with one of those tables around the outside of the dance floor. Good stuff there.
 
Prince Harry met recently with President Obama about what's called the "Invictus Games." It's essentially an Olympics for wounded veterans of multiple nationalities. It looks really awesome!

https://invictusgamesfoundation.org

I'm sharing it because apparently the 2016 games are going to be held at the ESPN Sports complex at WDW. Glad Disney is helping to put this on!
 
That looks more like a complete reconstruction instead of a rehab! I hadn't heard about it being in that bad of shape that it had to be completely taken down and rebuilt.
I don't think it was in that bad of shape but universal definitely has some big plans for this coaster.
 
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